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"The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews" (part two) ***MNHQ has tweaked the title in order to make the quote more clear***

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stomachameleon · 13/01/2024 21:43

Only the few apparently........these pictures are from todays March. Footage to follow..

"The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews" (part two) ***MNHQ has tweaked the title in order to make the quote more clear***
"The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews" (part two) ***MNHQ has tweaked the title in order to make the quote more clear***
"The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews" (part two) ***MNHQ has tweaked the title in order to make the quote more clear***
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noblegiraffe · 15/01/2024 00:22

Yes I've just seen on twitter 'grass' 'snitch' 'genocide enabler'.

I have no idea why they would think that disrupting the London Stock Exchange would help Gaza? It smacks a bit of the Houthi claim that they are attacking international shipping 'for Gaza' but actually it's an anti-west attack.

Anyway, I liked the reply that pointed out that there was more than one entrance to the building so they would disrupt nothing.

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 15/01/2024 00:27

noblegiraffe · 15/01/2024 00:22

Yes I've just seen on twitter 'grass' 'snitch' 'genocide enabler'.

I have no idea why they would think that disrupting the London Stock Exchange would help Gaza? It smacks a bit of the Houthi claim that they are attacking international shipping 'for Gaza' but actually it's an anti-west attack.

Anyway, I liked the reply that pointed out that there was more than one entrance to the building so they would disrupt nothing.

Perhaps they thought it was a way to get their views across on international TV. Poor, misguided souls.

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 00:28

They called a journalist a snitch?

Do they not understand the job of a journalist?

Not exactly at the front of the queue in the brains department whoever said that 😂

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 15/01/2024 00:30

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 00:28

They called a journalist a snitch?

Do they not understand the job of a journalist?

Not exactly at the front of the queue in the brains department whoever said that 😂

Well he did foil their dastardly plot Grin

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 00:31

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 15/01/2024 00:27

Perhaps they thought it was a way to get their views across on international TV. Poor, misguided souls.

What the massive march on Saturday that was reported about in the UK and globally didn't work to spread their message

Obviously a waste of time then. Should forget about holding another one😂

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 00:36

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 15/01/2024 00:30

Well he did foil their dastardly plot Grin

It was Scooby-Doo, Fred, Velma, Daphne and Shaggy who planned to disrupt the London Stock Exchange?

Just goes to show everyone is Palestinian these days

It was Jesus last month

noblegiraffe · 15/01/2024 00:40

Scooby, Fred, Velma, Daphne, Shaggy, Scrappy and Max.

You'd have thought they'd have spotted him.

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 00:55

Good point Giraffe

😂

Though maybe he dressed up as scrappy-doo. Did he mention that in his news article

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 15/01/2024 00:57

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 00:36

It was Scooby-Doo, Fred, Velma, Daphne and Shaggy who planned to disrupt the London Stock Exchange?

Just goes to show everyone is Palestinian these days

It was Jesus last month

And if it wasn't for that damn pesky reporter, I'd have got clean away with it. Cue gnashing of teeth.

quantumbutterfly · 15/01/2024 01:00
Book Read GIF by Scooby-Doo

It's the new Jeremy Corbyn calendar.....

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 15/01/2024 01:03

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 00:31

What the massive march on Saturday that was reported about in the UK and globally didn't work to spread their message

Obviously a waste of time then. Should forget about holding another one😂

Edited

Yah since the marches are so 2023 old news didn't you know darling. The latest hoo hah and hi jinks theatre of 2024 is causing a rumpus with the stock exchange.
Whatever next? Scaling The Shard to peep in through the windows to give visitors a jolly big shock?

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 01:07

I see quantumbutterfly has found damning evidence of a connect between the London Stock Exchange disturbance protesters and Jez. Always only one step away from the nutters is poor Jez.

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 01:11

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 15/01/2024 01:03

Yah since the marches are so 2023 old news didn't you know darling. The latest hoo hah and hi jinks theatre of 2024 is causing a rumpus with the stock exchange.
Whatever next? Scaling The Shard to peep in through the windows to give visitors a jolly big shock?

The new Just Stop Oil types for 2024

You are more than likely right

Poor people that live in London are bound to get it worse with this tactic. Oh wait a minute I live in London, bugger!

quantumbutterfly · 15/01/2024 01:13

It's a fetching picture of him at the latest march, I think they're trying to read the small print on his sign...you gotta watch that small print.

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 01:15

Scaling The Shard to peep in through the windows to give visitors a jolly big shock?

I actually want to see them try this one and would go along to watch it. That is as much as I can say without getting myself kicked off mumsnet.

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 01:19

quantumbutterfly · 15/01/2024 01:13

It's a fetching picture of him at the latest march, I think they're trying to read the small print on his sign...you gotta watch that small print.

The magnifying glass for the tiny bits of writing on the sign. Oh yes that makes sense

I just thought they were try to see his man bits better or something

Obviously I have a dirty mind compared to yourself

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 15/01/2024 01:24

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 01:19

The magnifying glass for the tiny bits of writing on the sign. Oh yes that makes sense

I just thought they were try to see his man bits better or something

Obviously I have a dirty mind compared to yourself

Gees Truly, you're giving me a good laugh tonight. Well on form darling

quantumbutterfly · 15/01/2024 01:25

ahem..of course...and obviously it's actually jezza wearing a piers mask in true scooby doo style.

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 01:40

quantumbutterfly · 15/01/2024 01:25

ahem..of course...and obviously it's actually jezza wearing a piers mask in true scooby doo style.

Now that has given me a visual image I really didn't want to think about

I was still pondering the idea they were looking at his man bits with the magnifying glass. Therefore this latest suggestion from yourself has added another rather disturbing element for that.

These are obviously very sick individuals indeed and I am glad the police have caught up with them. Well done Max the journalist because we don't need people that look at strange kinky calendars on our streets.

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 09:14

“Mindful of the suggestion that this was one part of a planned week of action, we are in contact with the City of London Police as well as other forces across the UK to ensure that appropriate resources are in place to deal with any disruption in the coming days.”

https://news.met.police.uk/news/six-arrested-over-plot-to-disrupt-london-stock-exchange-477813

Six arrested over plot to disrupt London Stock Exchange

We believe this group was ready to carry out a disruptive and damaging stunt which could have had serious implications had it been carried out successfully.

https://news.met.police.uk/news/six-arrested-over-plot-to-disrupt-london-stock-exchange-477813

lettherebepeaceintheworld · 15/01/2024 09:20

Trulywonderful · 15/01/2024 09:14

“Mindful of the suggestion that this was one part of a planned week of action, we are in contact with the City of London Police as well as other forces across the UK to ensure that appropriate resources are in place to deal with any disruption in the coming days.”

https://news.met.police.uk/news/six-arrested-over-plot-to-disrupt-london-stock-exchange-477813

I wonder what else might be their sleeves?

DownNative · 15/01/2024 13:03

Kendodd · 14/01/2024 16:04

This discussion with you has made me reflect on my own behaviour and try to do better. Thankfully, I have always said to my children that we don't hate people, we don't say that word. And I have certainly never told them and would never tell them its OK to hate 'certain groups'. I will never, never, never nurture hate and especially not in my own children.

You say the GFA negotiations broke down a lot. I suspect that was when hate reared it's ugly head and it had to be put back in the box to move forward.

Hate does nobody any good and should be contacted as much as possible. Just my opinion. I can see, not just you, plenty of others disagree and think it's OK to hate each other.

I'm afraid if you're teaching your kids the above you're teaching them something that's unrealistic and not practical.

The first thing that must be understood about politics and, therefore, political settlements of conflicts is this:

"Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best."

Otto von Bismarck

This is absolutely the foundation of conflict resolution itself. We are NOT called to have an absence of hate in our hearts or to love everyone in the world.

On the contrary, we are called to do the next best as Bismarck put it. That is to act as civilly and as respectfully as possible letting the strength of our arguments do the talking for ourselves.

Not our fists, feet or weapons.

Feeling hate for groups who do harm to others is not the actual problem. Rather the real problem is acting on feelings of hate, e.g., beating up or killing someone who have harmed yourself, a relative or friend.

Although the PIRA murdered a relative of mine and tried to murder my parents, my sibling and myself, we have never attempted to do likewise to them. It solves nothing. But we know where one of them lives to this day.

Our beliefs and ethics does NOT extend to carrying out acts of murder ourselves. We refused to allow PIRAs acts of murder to turn ourselves into people no better than them.

So, feeling hatred for them is not the problem. Acting on those feelings would be the problem.

Political settlements such as the Belfast Agreement is based on what Bismarck called "the art of the next best".

Several of the participants of the Belfast Agreement had hated the other side for decades. Even personally carried out murders or ordered others to do so. That hatred did NOT disappear at all during the negotiations!

It's bizarre to think it did. Even years after it we can still find examples of them hating the other, e.g., Gerry Adams' infamous "break the bustards!" comment.

But Republicans and Loyalists weren't killing each other. Instead they were killing members of their own communities. A reversal of the Troubles era.

I repeat, Feeling hate for groups who do harm to others is not the actual problem. Rather the real problem is acting on feelings of hate.

And:

"Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best."

Otto von Bismarck

Your overly idealistic approach doesn't and hasn't resolved any conflict anywhere in the world because its not realistic and is too far removed from the reality of conflict to be feasible. 🤷‍♂️

Kendodd · 15/01/2024 13:20

DownNative · 15/01/2024 13:03

I'm afraid if you're teaching your kids the above you're teaching them something that's unrealistic and not practical.

The first thing that must be understood about politics and, therefore, political settlements of conflicts is this:

"Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best."

Otto von Bismarck

This is absolutely the foundation of conflict resolution itself. We are NOT called to have an absence of hate in our hearts or to love everyone in the world.

On the contrary, we are called to do the next best as Bismarck put it. That is to act as civilly and as respectfully as possible letting the strength of our arguments do the talking for ourselves.

Not our fists, feet or weapons.

Feeling hate for groups who do harm to others is not the actual problem. Rather the real problem is acting on feelings of hate, e.g., beating up or killing someone who have harmed yourself, a relative or friend.

Although the PIRA murdered a relative of mine and tried to murder my parents, my sibling and myself, we have never attempted to do likewise to them. It solves nothing. But we know where one of them lives to this day.

Our beliefs and ethics does NOT extend to carrying out acts of murder ourselves. We refused to allow PIRAs acts of murder to turn ourselves into people no better than them.

So, feeling hatred for them is not the problem. Acting on those feelings would be the problem.

Political settlements such as the Belfast Agreement is based on what Bismarck called "the art of the next best".

Several of the participants of the Belfast Agreement had hated the other side for decades. Even personally carried out murders or ordered others to do so. That hatred did NOT disappear at all during the negotiations!

It's bizarre to think it did. Even years after it we can still find examples of them hating the other, e.g., Gerry Adams' infamous "break the bustards!" comment.

But Republicans and Loyalists weren't killing each other. Instead they were killing members of their own communities. A reversal of the Troubles era.

I repeat, Feeling hate for groups who do harm to others is not the actual problem. Rather the real problem is acting on feelings of hate.

And:

"Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best."

Otto von Bismarck

Your overly idealistic approach doesn't and hasn't resolved any conflict anywhere in the world because its not realistic and is too far removed from the reality of conflict to be feasible. 🤷‍♂️

Haven't even read full post, only got as far as wrong to teach children not to hate.
I will never, never, never teach my children that it's OK to hate other groups. You teach your children whatever you want, I can't stop you teaching them that it's OK to hate anyway. But I will NEVER teach my children that.

DownNative · 15/01/2024 13:31

Kendodd · 15/01/2024 13:20

Haven't even read full post, only got as far as wrong to teach children not to hate.
I will never, never, never teach my children that it's OK to hate other groups. You teach your children whatever you want, I can't stop you teaching them that it's OK to hate anyway. But I will NEVER teach my children that.

Instead of being highly selective, I suggest you read the full post. But it's no skin off my nose.

I'll stick with everything I know of conflict resolution over your airy fairy idealism that doesn't work in the real world, thanks. 🤷‍♂️

BTW, I didn't say it was wrong to teach children not to hate. I specifically said what YOU were teaching is unrealisticand not practical.

Very, very different to your misquoting and misunderstanding me. 🤦‍♂️

Kendodd · 15/01/2024 14:17

DownNative · 15/01/2024 13:31

Instead of being highly selective, I suggest you read the full post. But it's no skin off my nose.

I'll stick with everything I know of conflict resolution over your airy fairy idealism that doesn't work in the real world, thanks. 🤷‍♂️

BTW, I didn't say it was wrong to teach children not to hate. I specifically said what YOU were teaching is unrealisticand not practical.

Very, very different to your misquoting and misunderstanding me. 🤦‍♂️

Edited

Look, you win anyway. Its your message that it OK to hate certain groups that children across the Middle East have been hearing absolutely loud and clear for generations.

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