"The only purpose of these endless marches is to intimidate British Jews" (part two) ***MNHQ has tweaked the title in order to make the quote more clear***

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Only the few apparently........these pictures are from todays March. Footage to follow..

What small detail do you mean?

you're basically saying that anti-Zionism is antisemitic by definition.

No, I specifically say fervent anti-Zionism such as the one demonstrated by the man calling on people to wipe out the Zionist death cult has clear links to antisemitism. Denying that would be futile.

And if you are on the streets of London giving a speech and calling for people to wipe out the "Zionist death cult" is the sane and sanitised version of your views, presented for public consumption, then it would be wholly unsurprising to find antisemitism not far from the surface.

It usually doesn't require much digging to find it.

If there are people out there who are casually antizionist - i.e. merely think the creation of Israel was a mistake (like so many other issues caused by lines on maps, a lot of them drawn by the British), then perhaps they should consider why they think that the solution should be the eradication of Israel, which has now been around for 75 years, rather than trying to make the best of things with a solution that is a bit more of a compromise. And why they aren't going around insisting that other lines drawn on maps that have caused wars (of which there are many) aren't also rubbed out in a similar way. Why are they picking on Israel, the world's only Jewish state? Is it possible that they might have been influenced in some way by the antisemitic anti Zionists?

I would say any flavour of anti-Zionism that calls for the destruction of Israel as a Jewish state, is by definition anti-Semitism. Hence "from the river to the sea" is problematic.

Leeds, the Palestine Solidarity Campaign comrades today

One of their number thoughtfully thanked the Houthis. I don't think it was a large protest so easily noticeable by the police and the organisers

They're just so flagrant, aren't they? It's not even a small banner. Unbelievable.

Of course he's saying the state of Israel should be eradicated, yes. Some flavour of that (whether meaning violently eradicated, deprived of its status as a jewish state, amalgamated with Palestine or whatever) is what anti-Zionism is.

It should also be pointed out, @windowframer that wanting the eradication of Israel is a fairly extreme position, which is why so many people have spent time on here claiming that 'from the river to the sea' doesn't mean that.

Yep, seriously messed up isn't it

Someone on another thread was claiming that the Houthis were only attacking ships that were headed for Israel.

I mean, it's possible that these banner-wavers also don't have a clue what they're talking about.

I think it's more than possible, it seems to me to be probable.

Ah yes, the Houthis as brave defenders of vulnerable civilians. Whoever does their PR must be a genius.

@noblegiraffe OK, I think I get what you mean.

It also could be pointed out that considering anti-Zionism to be antisemitic by definition is not an extreme position either. It's part of the IHRA definition after all. And this:

If there are people out there who are casually antizionist - i.e. merely think the creation of Israel was a mistake (like so many other issues caused by lines on maps, a lot of them drawn by the British), then perhaps they should consider why they think that the solution should be the eradication of Israel, which has now been around for 75 years, rather than trying to make the best of things with a solution that is a bit more of a compromise. And why they aren't going around insisting that other lines drawn on maps that have caused wars (of which there are many) aren't also rubbed out in a similar way. Why are they picking on Israel, the world's only Jewish state? Is it possible that they might have been influenced in some way by the antisemitic anti Zionists?

is fine as far as it goes, but that isn't very far really. It's not really saying much to tell people they should consider whether their opinions are influenced by extremists. They'll generally say no, and none of us are in a position to prove what other peoples' motivation is, particularly when we're trying to claim it's other than what they say it is. You either think those opinions, as stated, are inherently offensive or you don't. You seem to want to keep the door open here to be clear that you basically think they are, while acknowledging that you can't actually prove that because it relies upon assumptions about their underlying motivation.

Back to yesterday's protest again.
If you are going to stage a march, it makes good sense of course to put someone convicted of harassment at the head. I mean why wouldn't you what someone like that to represent your course 🤔

Claudia Webbe at yesterday's London protest.

You either think those opinions, as stated, are inherently offensive or you don't. You seem to want to keep the door open here to be clear that you basically think they are, while acknowledging that you can't actually prove that because it relies upon assumptions about their underlying motivation.

Yes. See the people waving the Houthi banner. Are they supporters of antisemitic sex-slavers or are they merely idiots?

Either way they should not be waving that banner.

London protest yesterday

In case people don't know already, Leila Khaled is the first known woman to lead an airplane hijacking.

This is clear support for terrorism

I have just read 25,000 there today in support of Israel. Lots of flags including Iranian. Very different from the hate filled speeches of yesterday!

Very different scenes. Very different banners and placards. It's important to remember that the hostages have endured 100 days of captivity. Including an 11 month old baby. Shocking.

Piers Cobyn doing a new world order banner

The man holding the other end looks like he was dragged into things because the rant on the banner was too long for Piers to hold alone😂

The McDonalds banner is more of a rant too

I don't think they get that nobody can read their banners unless the writing is larger, less of it and less creased up. Though probably for the best they don't understand this. I mean do we really want to read every word the likes of conspiracy theorist Piers has to say

Oh dear god, get out the tin foil hats.

Respect to the guy on the left for his lettering, it is very good.

There's a website listed on the bottom, I just went there. They are cross about ULEZ, vaccines and the climate hoax. There's also a link where you can donate money to Piers, presumably to pay his ULEZ fines.

Anti vaxxers? Quelle surprise..

Sir Keir Starmer has condemned antisemites on protests and declared that he would keep Britain safe for Jews while speaking at the Jewish Labour Movement conference.

The Labour leader restated his support for a “humanitarian truce” in Gaza and the return of Israeli hostages.
"The bloodshed in Gaza must stop urgently,” he added.
Sir Keir also announced that five years after she quit the party after facing racism Luciana Berger 🎉 would take up an official role. The Jewish former MP will work alongside Shadow Health Secretery Wes Streeting to create a long-term cross-government strategy for mental health.

Referencing pro-Palestine marches in the UK, Sir Keir told JLM members: "I want to say to the Jewish community who look upon these events and can see hate marching side by side with calls for peace, people who hate Jews hiding behind people who support the just cause of a Palestinian state, we see what you see and we understand that to be targeted for who you are, attacked for things beyond your control, for your children to be afraid to walk the street or go to school is the greatest anxiety that a parent or any community could face.”

"So let me assure you we will never let antisemitism sneak back into the Labour party under cover. I see no greater cause in my leadership than this, this is my role. I dragged my party away from the abyss and I will never let Britain go anywhere near it either. This country will be safe for you and your children.”

Sir Keir repeated his support for the two-state solution. He insisted Labour, "will have to fight for the two-state solution in ways we haven't done for years, that the era of lip service and complacency must end.”

Some disturbing scenes in this event yesterday compared to a peaceful one today.

www.thejc.com/news/palestine-protestors-chant-in-support-of-houthi-rebels-t3rlbac1

Bloody hell. Well done the Express undercover reporter for exposing this.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1854932/palestine-action-london-stock-exchange

Looks like the 6 have been arrested.

Planning to cause a major economic shock to your own country??

Doesn't make their cause look good.

After the Express reporter posted about the fuckwits at Palestine Action planning to attack the London Stock Exchange.
The replies he receives are crazy.

This person takes it further though. It is a not very coded message suggesting "Kill Yourself".