Conflict Israel and other nearby countries

[EasterIssland]

Israel is at war with Gaza. However , this has dragged other countries in the area as well.
weve heard about the problems in West Bank (there is a thread) but also Lebanon where civilians have been killed and journalists have been targeted and killed

they’ve also attacked several airports in Siria.

ive read in the past there was a conflict as well with Yemen and read now this” Yemen's Houthis warn they will target all ships headed to Israel”

it doesn’t sound that post this war living in Israel is going to be safer than before

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/yemens-houthis-say-they-will-target-ships-red-sea-en-route-israel-2023-12-09/

@BelleHathor there are always protests in iran saying death to America. This is no new thing.
Have just watched channel 4 news and consensus on there was that it was ISIS that targeted Iran today.
And that Hezbollah said no more Today than they have before... lots of postering but they don't want to get any more involved. They view the limitless war the one that's being waged on the front in Lebanon.

The Hamas leader they nodded may have been removed by America as much as Israel.

They did agree Qatar is no no with regard to assassinating anyone there due to diplomatic relations.

Sorry for that's a bit garbled was trying to remember what I watched.

@FOJN that's the reason I highlighted 'resistance'. It's what I have read online.

Your ' ' were noted. Please stop imagining my every post is directed at you and read the thread.

I apologise. I did your right.

No problem.

@stomachamaleon I agree it is too soon to know who it is.

Right now I don't actually suspect Israel either. It goes against statements officials have made stating that Iran was not responsible for the 7th October.

I fully agree with @FOJN latest post. There are nefarious actors who are positively itching to get Iran involved in the war (Senator Lindsay Graham and the abhorrent John Bolton) thinking that it would be an easy win for America and her allies.

We all know about the Western "help" with the Iranian revolution in 1950s which led to the 1979 revolution.

Whoever carried it out are terrorists.

Anyway, off to cook now. Fingers crossed things remain calm.

sorry if I am being dense but do you mean America? No I don’t think they had anything to do with it , but certainly knew of it.

Lebanon is a puppet regime , the Mossad knows there will be no retaliation from them ,
The whole thing was done with precision , no other casualties , you can’t do that freely without insider help, specially in a place like south Beirut .

Just read it was Islamic state behind yesterdays attack in Iran. As a response to the war of Israel in Gaza

i was really surprised to see it was them to be honest and they’d have done it in Iran rather than a non Islamic country

@EasterIssland so they are angry with Iran for not getting involved? And blew up 100 people to make a point?

@stomachamaleon no not that

From the news.
Early today, Iran had said it was bolstering security along its borders with Afghanistan and Pakistan, in the first tangible sign that it suspected that the attack was work of an Islamic State affiliate.
Attention has focused on Islamic State Khorasan Province, a Sunni group operating primarily in Afghanistan that resents the damage done to Islamic State’s cause by Suleimani in Iraq and Syria.

It's why I was so suprised at the whole Hamas is Isis narrative at the start of the war. I'm pretty sure the two groups don't even get along because of Hamas's links and support with Iran.

As a response to the war of Israel in Gaza

@EasterIssland do you have a source for this claim please? I can’t find anything. It seems like it was more to do with internal unrest and power struggles within Iran and neighbouring countries.

From the Guardian, regarding the IS’ bombing:

“Early today, Iran had said it was bolstering security along its borders with Afghanistan and Pakistan, in the first tangible sign that it suspected that the attack was work of an Islamic State affiliate.
^^
Attention has focused on Islamic State Khorasan Province, a Sunni group operating primarily in Afghanistan that resents the damage done to Islamic State’s cause by Suleimani in Iraq and Syria.”

A bit more info in the NY Times. I can't put my finger on why but the story seems fishy to me. Very plausible but I'm not convinced.

www.nytimes.com/2024/01/04/world/middleeast/us-isis-iran-general-suleimani.html

Apologies as it’s in Spanish. And just reread and it’s not a response to the war. My mistake they’ve called for killing in USA and Europe because of the war

In addition, Daesh has advocated in a recording the murder of Jews and Christians in the United States and Europe in retaliation for the military offensive launched by the Israel Defense Forces on the Gaza Strip, a conflict it considers a "religious war." .

https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/5206241/0/estado-islamico-reivindica-atentado-iran-que-han-muerto-84-personas/

Hamas = ISIS has never meant they get on well. It means the kinds of practices based on a terrible extremist interpretation of the Koran and violence are common to both.

The Financial Times refers to a UN resolution still not enforced that perhaps more efforts should be put into now to help protect Israel's other border and push Hizbollah back to get the Iranian backed group well away from Israel with a buffer zone established which seems a very sensible idea to me. If people cannot live in harmony then just like if you have two fighting children you put them in different rooms as indeed have North and South Korea organised with their no man's land between them which no one crosses. It protects both sides in these kinds of situations. https://on.ft.com/3RJ6hjz

@EasterIssland Thank you for clarifying and thank you for the link.

@xenia (unconfirmed) news today was Hezbollah have pulled back their forces a little bit from the border.

(Disclaimer: I haven't seen sources) Apparently ISIS attacked and killed 6 members of Hezbollah and stole from their warehouse. And Hezbollah posted a video threatening to start war (with Israel I assume). Also at least one of the bombs was a suicide attacker.

It's very very messy, I literally feel like I can't keep up at the moment.

So they blow up lots of people in protest at other people being killed (not the brightest are they) then blame Israel.
Sound like deranged madmen.

Tactics not literally or in bed with

Well many Britain expects have been right from about an hour after it happened. I read then that some were saying it was almost definitely done by a sunni group. The style and tactics had them all over it apparently

Experts 😁

It's too perfect.

ISIS supposedly funded by Saudi Arabia according to Wikileaks cables.

Made up of dissident groups many trained and armed by Western agencies.

Has mostly killed Muslims in the region and whose aims to destroy/fight the exact same enemies of the West (Hezbollah, Hamas, Assad etc).

Perfect timing too after the rapprochement brokered by China between Saudi Arabia and Iran, who incidentally both became members of the BRICS alliance on Monday.

Many people aren't i
buying it.

Some people would be happier to just blame Israel. Any other explanation wouldn't be accepted.

I can't speak for BelleHathor but I'm very open minded about it. I have my personal theory about what might have happened but I keep in mind that I don't have enough information to know, for certain, one way or the other.

IF Israel did have a hand in it then the ISIS explanation allows Iran to stay out of the war, for now, without seeming weak.

Most people don't want this to escalate to a regional war.

So many lies and so much killing.