Just sick

[ideaspls]

Am still in disbelief five weeks later that this was allowed to happen.

how did the world just sit and watch as this was allowed to happen?

now disease will ravage the rest of the displaced population 😞

The Israeli government should be ashamed…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/28/deaths-from-disease-in-gaza-could-outstrip-deaths-from-war-un-says

I think you mean seven weeks ago.

Wouldn't have happened if Hamas didn't slaughter innocent people. Yes, it's horrific but how you blame Israels government instead of gazas government is blindsided. I don't agree with what is going on as an atheist- all life is precious.

So this is justified?

Because of what a terrorist organization has done, you are saying the correct response is to kill 12,000 innocent people. Most of whom are children? Not to mention the injuries, displacement of 1.2 million. Wow

Not saying that at all...im saying why arent you not blaming hamas government

What did you expect the rest of the world do? Since it didn't go steaming in to save Ukraine your expectations of what it would do in Palestine are unrealistic.

Just a quick reminder that Hamas started this. What did you expect Israel to do, give them a round of applause?
Don't be under the misapprehension that Hamas give a shit about the Palestinian people.
They don't
They just want to kill all Jews

@ideaspls Hamas is the legal government of Gaza. they decided to declare war on Israel. Israel has retaliated (it has to to get the hostages out). Gaza also sadly is a terrorist state which is awful for the people but not Israel's fault.
Where do you get 12,000 innocent Gazans from? You do realise that these figures are from hamas so likely to be untrue. Do you also realise that many of this number are Hamas terrorists, probably in the thousands.

Are you suggesting that the UN are liars?
(headquarters/office building of who has also been destroyed).

Deluded

No, they should bomb and kill children clearly.

@eardefender you're repeating this same UNWRA stuff on multiple threads today within a short timeframe.

Ultimate respect to the UN for calling out war crimes when they recognise them. No matter how many people with an agenda try to smear them, I will always respect organisations that speak out against barbarity.

Do you have a source for this information? Genuinely interested if you do.

Regarding the claims against UNRWA, a very recent review linked below said the EU are completely happy to still give aid to them, there is no evidence aid is going to Hamas.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/eu-says-no-evidence-aid-palestinians-going-hamas-2023-11-21/

There is a big search engine that people use called Google. Look it up yourself. Why trust me?

So you don't have a source then. No need to be rude about it.

This is laughable and an insult to Gazans. How on earth do they all have luxury estates in Qatar? How are the top brass of a small terror state Billionaires? Even dodgy UNWRA have complained about Hamas stealing fuel.

I can see how it is a massive stretch for people to think that Hamas steal aid, run Gaza and that UNWRA may be complicit.

Hamas are just a bunch of misunderstood, honest as the day is long, freedom fighters after all. Just because they steal babies and toddlers and are a bit rapey it definitely and in no way means that they are capable of stealing aid. Guys, we need solid proof of this. 😂

@eardefender I think I will trust the comprehensive EU review, produced by EU Commission officials, over you, on UNRWA funding. As an official EU body, they do rigorous research.

So you are now smearing WHO, UN, EU, EU Commission and UNRWA? Okey dokey.

I know who I trust. Not some random MN poster, not conspiracy theorists, but official EU Commission reviews.

BRUSSELS, Nov 21 (Reuters) - The European Union said on Tuesday a review of its development aid to Palestinians, ordered after the Oct. 7 Hamas attack on Israel, found no evidence of funds going to the militant group and that its assistance would continue.

The EU is the biggest provider of such aid to Palestinians. It has earmarked some 1.2 billion euros ($1.3 billion) for its programmes for the period between 2021 and 2024.

The European Commission, the EU's executive body, announced the review two days after Hamas militants attacked Israel from Gaza, killing 1,200 people and taking around 240 hostage, according to Israeli tallies.

Officials said the review was ordered as a precaution, not because they had any indications EU cash was going to Hamas.

"The review found no indications of EU money having directly or indirectly benefited the terrorist organisation Hamas," said Commission Executive Vice President Valdis Dombrovskis.

"The review found that the control system in place has worked. As a result payment to Palestinian beneficiaries and UNRWA will continue without any delays," Dombrovskis told reporters.

Well OP I'm still in disbelief that an atrocious terrorist attack on woman and children has been denied, ignored and excused.

But there you go

@backtowinter agreed.

@ideaspls why the hell are you so angry with mumsnetters?

You asked a question and got an answer!!

Agreed OP, Hamas is a despicable organisation and should never have created this situation. They don't care at all about their own population and my heart breaks for ordinary Palestinians.

On the UN - people forget that the 'UN' is just the world's nations. Many of those nations are extremely hostile to Israel, including those who not only believe Israel should be destroyed, but actively work towards this goal, such as Iran. Iran is now chairing the UN Himan Rights Council - Iran with its appalling human rights record, committing atrocities against women, kurds, religious minorities & any opposition on a daily basis. There are lots of issues with UNWRA & other UN bodies & individuals its not automatically an indication of impartiality

The need to protect civilian life in war still holds under international law.

The scale and speed of destruction has few precedents reports the NY Times.

If you don't want to rely on casualty counts, satellite analysis shows half of Northern Gaza's buildings wrecked by war (reporting by the FT).