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I'm shocked is this real? Very triggering!!

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DysonSphere · 24/11/2023 10:58

Can someone please substantiate if this picture is real or is it propaganda?

I have seen some disturbing images recently, but this one is beyond shocking to me. Surely this sort of thing is not happening in 2023?

Do not click if you are sensitive.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0AWCbrPGXe/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==

Apparently the writing is a happy birthday wish to a child.

I cannot obviously read it to know if that's what is truly written.

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immigrant002 · 25/11/2023 20:23

PurpleChrayne · 24/11/2023 11:03

Why would this be triggering?

It's writing on a rocket. Nothing compared to the things that other armies and military forces have done in the name of ridding the world of Islamist terrism.

This is war.

If you understood the psychological toll October 7 took on people in Israel and the diaspora, you would understand.

We are fighting terrorists. This is an armed conflict.

We're so shielded from this sort of thing in the UK that these things seem shocking to some.

This is war.?? What kind of sick bastard sends a message on a drone that kills people ! Do you think that bomb targets just "evil hamas" ? You are all
Losing the plot still defending this shit ! Complete warmongers

immigrant002 · 25/11/2023 20:30

There is a similar video doing the rounds of an idf soldier wishing his 2 year old happy birthday and saying this is for you before sending a bomb ! I mean if that was my father i would be deeply ashamed

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 20:45

@immigrant002 for the eight millionth time people are not saying this is ok or a Uniquely Israel thing.
They are saying it's a war thing and happens in every conflict.
The world is full of warmongers.

Ohlalalalala · 25/11/2023 20:58

immigrant002 · 25/11/2023 20:30

There is a similar video doing the rounds of an idf soldier wishing his 2 year old happy birthday and saying this is for you before sending a bomb ! I mean if that was my father i would be deeply ashamed

An Israeli soldier blew up a house in Gaza to celebrate daughter’s birthday

After obtaining permission from the Israeli occupation army, an Israeli soldier blew up an entire building in Gaza in order to give it as a birthday gift to...

https://youtu.be/dxHTMyRibzE?feature=shared

stormy4319trevor · 25/11/2023 21:08

I suppose they are desensitised to the horror of it? I hope they receive counselling before re-entering society.

theduchessofspork · 25/11/2023 21:11

Writing messages on weapons is as old as time

Obviously he’s a twat, but there’s far more to be shocked about with this war.

PurpleChrayne · 25/11/2023 21:11

MovingAnxiety · 24/11/2023 12:13

Wow. How do you even sleep at night. You think this is ok?

Do I think it's ok for my people to try to eradicate the aggressors who raped and murdered, tortured and kidnapped? To rid the rest of the world of this particular faction of violent Islamists? Damn right I do.

PurpleChrayne · 25/11/2023 21:13

Yet again, Israel is held to higher standards over something that is common in war.

This is textbook Anti-Semitism. I can't believe more people don't see it.

theduchessofspork · 25/11/2023 21:14

immigrant002 · 25/11/2023 20:23

This is war.?? What kind of sick bastard sends a message on a drone that kills people ! Do you think that bomb targets just "evil hamas" ? You are all
Losing the plot still defending this shit ! Complete warmongers

It’s really common.

Soldiers have always done this - you find messages on old cannons and things.

Stomacharmeleon · 25/11/2023 21:26

Apparently the imperial way museum has records of slingshots sent in Ancient Greece that has 'catch' on them.

immigrant002 · 25/11/2023 22:22

PurpleChrayne · 25/11/2023 21:13

Yet again, Israel is held to higher standards over something that is common in war.

This is textbook Anti-Semitism. I can't believe more people don't see it.

No one is holding israel to higher standards they are the ones gaslighting everyone .
"We give them warning to evacuate"
"The most moral army in the world"
" we do not target civilians"
Is the first time we see war love on our screens the lies are exposed we see them loud and clear
Pure fascism !

Thereissomelight · 25/11/2023 22:54

PurpleChrayne · 25/11/2023 21:11

Do I think it's ok for my people to try to eradicate the aggressors who raped and murdered, tortured and kidnapped? To rid the rest of the world of this particular faction of violent Islamists? Damn right I do.

But what about the 5000 children that have been killed in the last 6 weeks?

Mdg247 · 26/11/2023 00:00

If you’re disturbed by this, I’d like to politely advise that there are far more disgusting and disturbing things that you clearly haven’t been privy to.

children and adults on both sides of the conflict wilfully wish death on the other (particularly due to their anger at the situation right now.)

Palestinian children have been indoctrinated with Hamas propaganda TV channels involving a Mickey Mouse character who teaches them that it’s fabulous to be a martyr and that they should kill Jews when they see them.

This is an old conflict, and a war. I don’t know how this has been the most shocking part for you quite frankly.

I hope this one doesn’t give you nightmares…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow%27s_Pioneers

Tomorrow's Pioneers - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow%27s_Pioneers

Toothyfruity · 26/11/2023 00:29

@Mdg247 you say "that it’s fabulous to be a martyr and that they should kill Jews when they see them." Can you provide a timestamp for when either of those happen in the cartoon?

For balance, because you fail to mention Israeli indoctrination of children, the lovely song that's doing the rounds at the moment:

And if you think the Mickey Mouse video is disturbing wait til you see the burned bodies of babies from white phosphorus, or babies fitting as they die because their house was bombed, or babies dying from drinking dirty water or having no access to basic medicines, or babies being brought to hospital in bits in plastic bags by a desperate father because of Israeli war crimes. Or the premature babies who died because Israel targeted the power to their incubators.

‘Within a year we will annihilate everyone’: Israeli song about war in Gaza sparks outrage

“Within a year we will annihilate everyone.”An Israeli song about the war in Gaza featuring child singers has sparked outrage in Israel on Sunday after publi...

https://youtu.be/2bnhWYJh8-I?si=q_oyW-z6WPtam7bB

R4R1 · 26/11/2023 00:31

Looks like some doodles to me.

Mdg247 · 26/11/2023 00:41

As someone who has had far more experience with this conflict than most; let me refer to my previous comment which you seem to have missed…

‘’children and adults on both sides of the conflict wilfully wish death on the other (particularly due to their anger at the situation right now.) ‘’

i don’t need to be educated on the hate and vitriol from ‘the other side’ because I am well aware of it, but thanks for trying to educate me on something I’m well aware of :)

Mdg247 · 26/11/2023 00:43

Toothyfruity · 26/11/2023 00:29

@Mdg247 you say "that it’s fabulous to be a martyr and that they should kill Jews when they see them." Can you provide a timestamp for when either of those happen in the cartoon?

For balance, because you fail to mention Israeli indoctrination of children, the lovely song that's doing the rounds at the moment:

And if you think the Mickey Mouse video is disturbing wait til you see the burned bodies of babies from white phosphorus, or babies fitting as they die because their house was bombed, or babies dying from drinking dirty water or having no access to basic medicines, or babies being brought to hospital in bits in plastic bags by a desperate father because of Israeli war crimes. Or the premature babies who died because Israel targeted the power to their incubators.

I mean, the fact you need a time stamp is laughable, if you don’t want to accept what is in front of you, by all means remain wilfully ignorant. There are no winners in war and neither side is innocent in indoctrination and hate 😂

Toothyfruity · 26/11/2023 00:51

Yes because what you said isn't actually in the video you posted. You just made that up.

Mdg247 · 26/11/2023 00:59

You are welcome to go through the entire series and find for yourself that martyrdom is glorified and that the murder of Jews is also encouraged. I don’t really have time to sift through all videos to find the exact moments but you are more than welcome since you don’t believe me 😂 otherwise you are welcome to continue living in denial

Toothyfruity · 26/11/2023 01:01

Mdg247 · 26/11/2023 00:59

You are welcome to go through the entire series and find for yourself that martyrdom is glorified and that the murder of Jews is also encouraged. I don’t really have time to sift through all videos to find the exact moments but you are more than welcome since you don’t believe me 😂 otherwise you are welcome to continue living in denial

No, I just wanted to correct the lie you told.

Mdg247 · 26/11/2023 01:16

Gosh yes, I lied. All the evidence is infront of you and it’s still a lie. Keep burying your head in the sand ‘tooty fruity’ 😂

Here’s an actual person (US politicians) description for anyone else that needs clarification (not you though! You’re clued up!)

‘’Whereas Hamas uses their television network, Al-Aqsa TV, to air a children's show 'Tomorrow's Pioneers' to breed new terrorists through hatred for Israel and Western nations; ... Whereas in February 2008, Hamas used a Bugs Bunny look-alike to indoctrinate children by inciting them toward hatred and violence by telling children that he 'will finish off the Jews and eat them'; Whereas in May 2007, Hamas used a Mickey Mouse look-alike in the same children's program to teach terrorist doctrines to children; ... the House of Representatives condemns Hamas for using a children's television program to incite hatred, violence, and anti-Semitism toward Israel; and demands that Hamas immediately suspend all television programming that incites hatred, violence, and anti-Semitism toward Israel ...[87]‘’

Toothyfruity · 26/11/2023 01:33

Oh well if an unnamed US politician said it it must be true. They're all famously reasonable and impartial on this particular conflict.

I don't care about the cartoon. You posted a video and gave a quote that wasn't in the video and I corrected you. The end.

Mdg247 · 26/11/2023 08:49

No, the sentiment is exactly the same and if you cared to research you can see the name of said politician as well as all of the information surrounding what I’ve just told you.

You’re just deliberately being pedantic and self righteous because in your support of one side, you are unable or blinded in accepting that there are also wrongs on the other. Both sides of this can be criticised and it doesn’t make one more right over the other. It doesn’t change the facts on the ground in regards to the war.

What people do not need in this conflict, are people like you. You are not a friend of the Palestinians either. Largely unhelpful and unwilling and unable to understand facts or issues that pertain to both sides, I say this as someone who actually works with and has been involved with work in the West Bank (in particular) on behalf of Palestinians. Hatred indoctrination and extremism exist on both sides of the fence. In the first instance it affects those whose community actively encourages it, for various reasons of which I’m guessing you cannot understand,

As someone who has had to grow up with this my entire existence, it is honestly so depressing to find people like you pretending to be an activist but only humanising one side of the conflict, which doesn’t make you a human rights or freedom fighter at all it just makes you small minded.

Toothyfruity · 26/11/2023 09:08

I mean I just fact checked your post and made the point that Israelis also indoctrinate children, and worse, they're murdering them in their thousands.

It seems to have caused you significant upset but I can't help how you react to my post.

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