I'm shocked is this real? Very triggering!!

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Can someone please substantiate if this picture is real or is it propaganda?

I have seen some disturbing images recently, but this one is beyond shocking to me. Surely this sort of thing is not happening in 2023?

Do not click if you are sensitive.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0AWCbrPGXe/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==

Apparently the writing is a happy birthday wish to a child.

I cannot obviously read it to know if that's what is truly written.

As @Ohlalalalala above, and also

This is not a judgement call at all, or minimising any horrors on either side

Its a question

For the posters who are saying (writing names on bombs) is "normal human behaviour" and nothing to be shocked about, would the exact same responses be acceptable if the OP had written about her shock at incidents of rape/antisemitism/homophobia?

Okay, thank you for clarifying @Ohlalalalala and @Chaitales

But the thing is, you seem to be arguing something that isn't happening on this thread. Where are the posters saying it's "normal human behaviour"? In fact, many have expressed their shock and disgust. Some have put it into historical context - with evidence - for the OP by saying this is not a new thing. And that is just a fact. It doesn't imply that people accept it or are not horrified by it.

The OP said she appreciated the explanations. It is something she'd not seen before and was understandably shocked by. It is shocking if you've never encountered it before, and it remains* *shocking even when you have.

I just can't see how you're interpreting it that people find this acceptable. Or trying to attribute it to a "side".

Well, exactly! maybe Hamas do write on their rockets. And, equally, we'd be horrified by that.

Hey, relax, it’s just war. Been happening for thousands of years. Dead kids are collateral damage. They came alive in this universe by a miracle that may never happen again - but they gave up these short, precious lives so that violent psychopathic men can gain power and money.

These men exist everywhere. Mostly society and civilisation keeps them at bay. From time to time their number reaches a critical mass and they take over the police, army, government and judiciary. They go on a rampage that causes years of misery to everyone who is not a violent, psychopathic man. I think that a large swathe of the Middle East, on both sides of this conflict, has reached this critical mass of men. Decent men - shut up and know your place, or else. Women - be young, fertile and pretty and bear children. Everyone else - fuck off and/or die.

The women who voluntarily support and cheer these kinds of men - no matter which countries they pop up
in - are utterly, utterly deluded.

Agree completely

PurpleChrayne is right.

This is what war is like. Most of us may age know all about it friom our parents in WWII. Many younger people from abroad have experienced it very close at hand. War is awful but sometimes necessary. At times it is a moral good and necessary to protect the West's rights and freedoms from the enemies of democracy. Why do people think the UK has nuclear weapons? Because we are prepared to drop them on enemies who might invade us.

At times it is a moral good and necessary to protect the West's rights and freedoms from the enemies of democracy.

Out of curiosity, is war only good when perpetuated by the "west"? How do we decide this and who does?

What about the Iraq war (loss of a million lives and destruction of a country) that was later found to be based on lies and has been called by US leaders as a "mistake"?

Genuine discussion pls, I'm interested in knowing how we discern between good and bad war.

Nope. Killing thousands of innocent children is not a moral good. Never was, never will be.

“For the posters who are saying (writing names on bombs) is "normal human behaviour" and nothing to be shocked about, would the exact same responses be acceptable if the OP had written about her shock at incidents of rape/antisemitism/homophobia?”

But @Chaitales , writing on a bomb is not rape/antisemitism/homophobia.

Writing on a bomb is the same level regardless of who writes and who is the target.
Writing on a bomb is not as great an atrocity as rape, no matter who the rapist and who the victim.

I would not think this was somehow worse if the Palestinians did it.

I mentioned earlier that in your distress you are reading attitudes into other people’s comments that aren’t there.

I can’t get shocked and outraged about writing on a bomb, regardless of the context. It won’t feel any worse for the poor souls it lands on, it won’t do any more damage.

And it’s not a new depth of inhumanity, it’s bog bloody standard macho posturing. It’s akin to trophy hunters on safari. The bragging photo isn’t the issue, it’s the killing.

So please stop rushing to accuse everyone who disagrees with you of antipalestinian/Islamophobia.

And the inference that anyone who fails to tear their hair and beat their breast in time with you is ‘cheering on the men’ is offensive, too.

I'm not accusing anyone, I have repeatedly said on this post that I am curious to know whether we discern responses based on perpetrator

Apologies if I have accused anyone on this thread and if my response has been accusatory. I'm trying to learn

Apologies for hurting the feelz of anyone who thinks that killing thousands of children is ok because they’ve got in the way of violent men.

Who on this thread thinks that?

Some people just can't help themselves but throw in an inflammatory comment instead of taking part in reasoned discussion.
It's very sad.

@Thereissomelight perfectly demonstrated.

If OP had written a post about how she was surprised that rape, anti-Semitism and homophobia are a thing then yes, probably there would be posts pointing out that they have always existed.

Thanks. And that's equally wrong.

Descending into name calling and point scoring will save exactly zero children from a terrible fate.

@Thereissomelight oh... you ok hun?

There is nothing moral or good about the IDF. Their actions get worse and worse (although they have never been great). Would the soldier in question take it on the chin if a missile with a lovely message scrawled on it hit his children? I imagine not.

www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-trending/writing-funny-messages-bomb-ammo/

There have been many examples of this on social media. IDF writing "death to 'innocents'" "death to Gaza" "leave no memory of them" 💔

It's vile isn't it. I don't have any sympathy for Hamas or the IDF, some actions are just beyond forgiveness.

Why? You think if someone make a thread saying "is it true that anti-Semitism is happening?" and someone said "anti-Semitism has been happening for thousands of years" that would that be wrong?

Can you seriously not comprehend that stating that something is old and widespread is not the same thing as condoning it?

And before October 7th?
Nelson Mandela was also called a terrorist. Interesting, isn't it, who gets to be called a terrorist.
What or who do you mean qhen you say "we"?