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Conflict in the Middle East

School students marching in support of Palestine

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Sausagenbacon · 17/11/2023 09:35

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/palestine-march-tower-hamlets-east-london-israel-gaza-b1120876.html
Why are schools allowing/enabling students to do this?
Is it part of what schools should do, promoting frankly one-sided protest? And what will they decide to march about next? Just imagine being a Jewish student in the middle of this.
I find it sinister.

'Hundreds' of schoolchildren join pro-Palestine protest in Tower Hamlets

Thursday's march forms part of Friday's "National School Strike for Palestine" initiative

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/palestine-march-tower-hamlets-east-london-israel-gaza-b1120876.html

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noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 00:38

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 00:33

If you think that facilitating children to march against the murder of thousands of other children is radicalisation then I think you're the one with the issue here.

Why only this one? Why not all the others?

Carverbill · 18/11/2023 00:42

Kindatired · 18/11/2023 00:10

The tide of public opinion is predicted to end the Gaza bombings, but the longer it goes on the more innocent people will be killed. Peaceful protest is an important way of signalling to governments that they need to stop supporting the Israeli government bombing.
This is a complex proxy war but the US and UK are still accountable to their electorates and analysts talk about the “diplomatic clock”. To allow the killing of thousands of people to go unchecked is to become complicit and it's commendable for young British people to take part.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-773065
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Peace-People

OK, so young British people take part. What's the minimum age we allow our children to be involved in this conflict? I can't believe I've even had to ask that question. Emphasis is on children, not young adults.

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 00:46

Just don't take children out of school to protest stuff. What until they are older teenagers and they will protest whatever they like whether you like it or not. That is what thousands of teenagers have done over the years and will continue to do. That is how children assert their own opinions and is healthy. Not taking them as young children to a march that adults shouting about things they are too young to fully understand. Let them be children for as long as possible without projecting onto them.

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 00:47

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 00:38

Why only this one? Why not all the others?

Full on genocide is less common than you think. Also, western governments don't usually get behind it in the way that has happened in this case. Usually western leaders call for ceasefire when thousands of civilians are killed in a few weeks and an occupying force has cut off water, food, fuel and communication.

The real question is why is it OK to do this to Palestinians?

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 00:49

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 00:37

A lot of posters are not having a conversation or debate about it though. They are not posting informed argument. They are just saying the same thing multiple times in there own posters. That isn't a conversation. It is just a statement. In most cases people have given even trying to post on the conflict threads. People want to be able to talk without the same thing being repeated a dozen times on one page of the thread. It is like some posters think we all don't know the current situation in Gaza. That has meant a lot of posters won't hear what people that go to protests what them to hear on these threads. So a big own goal really and not great for those of us the stick around because we do want to have a conversation about this stuff

I'd hazard a guess that listening to posters justify the murder of thousands of civilians is putting people off reading here.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 00:49

And the other question is why Hamas don't feature in these protests.

Hamas! Is!

Chorus: A Proscribed Terrorist Organisation!

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 00:53

Carverbill · 18/11/2023 00:38

Of course it's radicalisation. You're only rebutting that because you side with Palestine. You do not involve children in politics. In Gaza, the children and other civilians have no choice. It's awful. Fortunately, we haven't got to a state yet where, during peace time, children are programmed to suit political bias.

Anyone who doesn't side with opposition to the murder of thousands of civilians, the targeting of hospitals and schools and cutting off water, food, power and communications to a trapped population needs to have a look at themselves.

Some children aren't interested. Some are. All children should be allowed to make their voices heard in opposition to the outrageous murder of thousands of civilians including children like themselves. Some parents encourage their children to understand the world around them. Others don't.

Carverbill · 18/11/2023 00:53

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 00:49

And the other question is why Hamas don't feature in these protests.

Hamas! Is!

Chorus: A Proscribed Terrorist Organisation!

Imagine letting children think terrorism is OK. To let them think climbing political monuments is fine and respectful. To let kids believe actions don't have consequences.

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 00:57

Here is how responsable parents should be handling the current situation:

Children are exposed to news in lots of different ways and what they see can worry them. These tips can help you have a conversation with your child:

Listen carefully to their fears and worries.

Offer reassurance and comfort.

Avoid complicated and worrying explanations that could be frightening and confusing.

Help them find advice and support to understand distressing events and feelings.

Children can always contact Childline free and confidentially on the phone and online.

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 00:57

Carverbill · 18/11/2023 00:53

Imagine letting children think terrorism is OK. To let them think climbing political monuments is fine and respectful. To let kids believe actions don't have consequences.

I presume you are happy to condemn what Israel is doing? You've already hinted that it's not genocide so what is it?

It's nearly as though killing a child is less offensive than allowing them to attend a protest in opposition to killing children.

Carverbill · 18/11/2023 00:59

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 00:57

I presume you are happy to condemn what Israel is doing? You've already hinted that it's not genocide so what is it?

It's nearly as though killing a child is less offensive than allowing them to attend a protest in opposition to killing children.

It's late. I'm done. I've already, as have many posters said killing civilians is wrong. You just see what you want to.

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 00:59

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 00:49

I'd hazard a guess that listening to posters justify the murder of thousands of civilians is putting people off reading here.

Then you haven't been reading other boards talking about this one

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 01:00

It's nearly as though killing a child is less offensive than allowing them to attend a protest in opposition to killing children.

Which other political organisations are you happy with targeting your children as a political tool?

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 01:00

Carverbill · 18/11/2023 00:59

It's late. I'm done. I've already, as have many posters said killing civilians is wrong. You just see what you want to.

I mean you said it wasn't ethnic cleansing or genocide. But you're very offended by kids marching. I'm reading your words no more and no less.

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 01:03

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 01:00

It's nearly as though killing a child is less offensive than allowing them to attend a protest in opposition to killing children.

Which other political organisations are you happy with targeting your children as a political tool?

I'm against all targeting of children. I don't understand people who are only against the killing of Israeli children but who tolerate the killing of Palestinian children.

etmoiandme · 18/11/2023 01:05

Did I miss schoolkids being sent out to stand up for the 20,000+ children who have so far died in the Syrian war? Oh that's right, the protests were against us intervening! It's all just so...selective isn't it. Absolute hypocrites.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 01:12

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 01:03

I'm against all targeting of children. I don't understand people who are only against the killing of Israeli children but who tolerate the killing of Palestinian children.

Ah, so you're against political organisations targeting children and using them to make a political message?

I certainly don't want Stop the War targeting my kids. They can fuck off.

I don't want my kids to only be told one side of this conflict either. Or to be potentially exposed to antisemitic messages.

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 01:19

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 01:12

Ah, so you're against political organisations targeting children and using them to make a political message?

I certainly don't want Stop the War targeting my kids. They can fuck off.

I don't want my kids to only be told one side of this conflict either. Or to be potentially exposed to antisemitic messages.

Sorry I thought you were talking about the targeting of children in the conflict. I am not aware of political organisations targeting children. I've never seen that happen so I can't comment.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 01:24

Stop the War are targeting children by actively encouraging them to bunk school to protest on their behalf. As per the article in the OP.

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 01:28

I wouldn't agree that advertising a protest is actively encouraging anyone to do anything. The article says the children appeared to be accompanied by their parents.

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 01:29

Maybe read the article this thread is about and then do some research

Then make an informed decision before saying children should be used by adults to protest

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 01:31

Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 01:29

Maybe read the article this thread is about and then do some research

Then make an informed decision before saying children should be used by adults to protest

I did read it. I just don't agree with the pearl clutching genocide deniers on this thread that a bogeyman is brainwashing children and forcing them to go on marches. They went with their parents!

torettsticks · 18/11/2023 01:34

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Trulywonderful · 18/11/2023 01:39

Toothyfruity · 18/11/2023 01:31

I did read it. I just don't agree with the pearl clutching genocide deniers on this thread that a bogeyman is brainwashing children and forcing them to go on marches. They went with their parents!

Well glad you mothered to read it then

Still going for dropping the word genocide in every other post I see. Well at least you are consistent. A bit over tired and cranky judging by this post bit consistent.

So let me get this straight. You believe good parenting is allowing primary school age children to attend protests with adults shouting very grown up things in a Megaphone. Also people holding sign with blooded hand prints on them and some grown up wording about death and killing people. I think we should probably call it a night on that note.

noblegiraffe · 18/11/2023 01:39

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