School students marching in support of Palestine

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/palestine-march-tower-hamlets-east-london-israel-gaza-b1120876.html
Why are schools allowing/enabling students to do this?
Is it part of what schools should do, promoting frankly one-sided protest? And what will they decide to march about next? Just imagine being a Jewish student in the middle of this.
I find it sinister.

No, read my post and you'll see I didn't say that.

I don't think it has actually. I think most people, other than Israel of course, want a 2 state solution based on 1967 borders.

Right. I don't even know what to say to that.
I will leave you to it
You may find that many Jewish people and Israelis themselves don't hold such a black and white view as you do.

I don't agree that the last sentence should be left unquestioned. It's insulting and prejudiced in itself to imply pro-Palestine equals antisemitism.

But that is not what I'm saying. I said the protests are creating the conditions for antisemitism to flourish and I think that is what she meant too , and it's obvious to any Jewish person what she meant. Jewish families were targeted leaving a synagogue last week not far from the protests - that is the atmosphere being enabled by the protests. They are not attacking the synagogue because they are Zionists or pro-Israeli (because how do they know if they are or not?) it's because they're Jewish. But again, I don't want the protests banned, and if I didn't feel so uncomfortable with the blatant antisemitic presence at them I'd be quite prepared to go on them myself.

Honestly, I do understand its more nuanced. It's just that I also understand that a lot of Jewish people in the west must he feeling vulnerable right now

And to be honest with you, deep down what I really think is that it's wrong to ban the protests

@etmoiandme thank you for that explanation. I do agree to some aspects of your points. As usual in all conflicts the extreme ones use it as an opportunity to rear their ugly heads. I think the only difference in opinion that we have is should the masses be silenced because of this minority or are the stakes too high. The ongoing assault in Gaza which i believe has gone beyond self defence will have long term negative effects for both Palestine and Israel. I wish someone close to Netanyahu could give him a shake and make him realise he is doing himself and his country no favours right now

@Parkingt111 Thank you. All I ask is for people to try and imagine how British Jewish people are watching this play out and how it could be headed for a pretty dangerous situation for us.

Re Netanyahu, I think he needs more than a shake to be honest and would like to see his arse booted straight into kingdom come.

@etmoiandme I do honestly. Which Is why I said yesterday I personally would not support schools organising marches. Unfortunately young children are being exposed first hand with the horrors of what is happening. It affects us as adults so we can imagine the affect it has on them. Young people have alot of anger right now. Anger at the situation and anger at the government and this does need addressing in schools but in a more controlled and professional manner. Parents who take their children on marches or events is a different issue. But again that's just my two pence and I'm sure plenty will disagree

@Parkingt111 Thanks for listening. I actually look out for your posts on here because I find your perspectives interesting and your balance helpful, especially amongst so many entrenched, subjective and downright aggressive posts.
And yes, while I do not have an issue with the wider marches in principle (protest is healthy!) and adults taking their kids on them, I absolutely don't support schools organising marches, for the reasons you've given and others - not least because I think it's going to put British Jewish kids in danger, both now and in coming years. And I do find the selectivity (and therefore motivation) quite astonishing which I also mentioned yesterday.

It is very alarming that the protests are being used by some to generate ant-Semitism. But the protests themselves are in response to Israeli actions.

Does anyone really want to live in a world where 12,000 people can be killed for living in the wrong place and no-one even raises an eyebrow? Protests need to be held when injustices occur.

Fwiw, I personally wouldn’t put a „There is no planet B“ t-shirt on my six year old.
I might wear it myself, but having grown up in a communist country where children had to wear symbols of „the right cause“ from an early age, I‘m nowadays somewhat allergic to those things.
I agree with @Loulou599 on this - no need to dress your child as a placard for your personal causes.
That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t talk about political issues with your children (in an age appropriate way).

Everyone has the right to March

But for every clued up, passionate, justice seeking child there will be another 5 who are joining in the "latest thing". I work with them.

Add Stop the War into the mix and I would be very worried for those children and young people

This.
Marches for the release of the hostages would take place but it would be playing into the hands of Hamas.
The thought of what could be happening to them is heartbreaking .It’s unlikely that the IDF will successfully extract them so we have to hope that release can be negotiated

Marches for the release of the hostages would take place but it would be playing into the hands of Hamas.

What? How?

I've seen people ripping down pictures of the hostages, but I don't think that was out of concern about what Hamas might think.

You seem more worried about someone pointing out the link between some pro-Palestinian activists and antisemitism than you about actual antisemitic abuse.

I think its interesting how the article has focused on a school in an area with a high population of Muslim people protesting. I have seen protests outside other institutions (including universities) and there haven't been any articles about these. There needs to be some element of critical thinking when reading/watching the news.

It's not only Muslims who are angry/want to protest about what is happening with the Israel-Palestine conflict.

I expect they know who their cousins are, and that Israel bombed them and the UK is cool with it?

That is terrible- disrespectful and cruel.
There is no justification for that behaviour.
I am sorry you had to see it and also the hurt to other Jewish people

And so are Muslims. Five Muslims in the West have been stabbed to death,one of them being a child. In my town last night there was a Muslim family outside a takeaway that were severely verbally abused and three others with the perpetrator surrounded them and filmed the incident. The police had to be called and the children were terrified.

@stormy4319trevor I thought they were British living in the UK. They aren’t cousins. Most are Asian ethnicity rather than Middle Eastern. Apart from following the same region their culture is very different. Much like Christian Brits have a different culture to Eastern Orthodox Christians.
Surely you’d feel loyalty towards fellow Jewish Brits who live in the same country and are the same nationality.

@Titusgroan anything else you want to moan about the Jewish community for.... www.secularism.org.uk/news/2022/01/ofsted-slams-islamic-schools-over-safeguarding-curriculum-failures

moaning.? ……. how was my comment moaning ……what a bizarre statement …… what bizarre comprehension ………..
I was stating a pure fact.
Do not twist posters words to your own end.

I don’t usually engage with posters who twist information as it’s a kind of personal propaganda but a lack of basic comprehension of a post does need to be called out.

I will not be engaging further

Not everyone likes to have their narrative challenged it seems.

Seriously what is wrong with some people that they think an adult style march is a place for primary school children. Let alone letting a child miss school to hear and see things the parents should be filtering to be age appropriate for the child.