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Conflict in the Middle East

School students marching in support of Palestine

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Sausagenbacon · 17/11/2023 09:35

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/palestine-march-tower-hamlets-east-london-israel-gaza-b1120876.html
Why are schools allowing/enabling students to do this?
Is it part of what schools should do, promoting frankly one-sided protest? And what will they decide to march about next? Just imagine being a Jewish student in the middle of this.
I find it sinister.

'Hundreds' of schoolchildren join pro-Palestine protest in Tower Hamlets

Thursday's march forms part of Friday's "National School Strike for Palestine" initiative

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/palestine-march-tower-hamlets-east-london-israel-gaza-b1120876.html

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SOBplus · 17/11/2023 10:50

Unless they are adults I don't think it should be supported, if children truly believe in the cause they can do it on their own time outside school grounds but the schools know indoctrination done early is done best. I recall my kids telling me they learned all manufacturing is bad. Taught in a manufactured building, using manufactured tools with kids in manufactured chairs, etc. 🙄

Askolovitch · 17/11/2023 11:04

DeeCeeCherry · 17/11/2023 10:47

caringcarer
Ask the kids which river, which sea? They don't have a clue. They are being manipulated by adults

If your children don't know geographical basics then it reflects badly on you - not them

You're really missing the point aren't you?

OuiOuiKitty · 17/11/2023 11:04

SOBplus · 17/11/2023 10:50

Unless they are adults I don't think it should be supported, if children truly believe in the cause they can do it on their own time outside school grounds but the schools know indoctrination done early is done best. I recall my kids telling me they learned all manufacturing is bad. Taught in a manufactured building, using manufactured tools with kids in manufactured chairs, etc. 🙄

What do you think they are indoctrinating children about exactly?

Askolovitch · 17/11/2023 11:06

OuiOuiKitty · 17/11/2023 11:04

What do you think they are indoctrinating children about exactly?

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Hatred.

Sausagenbacon · 17/11/2023 11:07

I've witnessed one of these marches and, yes, hatred

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AboutYouTalk · 17/11/2023 11:11

Pretty sure the children of today are very clued up and have minds of their own, they also have a moral conscience and we need to give them credit for that. If they want to March then let them 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

OuiOuiKitty · 17/11/2023 11:11

Askolovitch · 17/11/2023 11:06

Hatred.

Hatred towards what? I don't know how old these kids are but you don't need to be indoctrinated to know that illegal occupation is wrong, to know that apartheid is wrong, to know that starving 1million kids is wrong, to know that killing 1000s of kids is wrong? People on this thread have mentioned how wrong it is that Israeli kids were killed. The same goes for Palestinian kids. It isn't controversial to say that any of the above is wrong and should be stopped now. And you don't need a degree in geopolitics to know all of that just morality.

AboutYouTalk · 17/11/2023 11:12

Sausagenbacon · 17/11/2023 11:07

I've witnessed one of these marches and, yes, hatred

Every single person on the March you witnessed was promoting hatred? Hmm ok 🙄

Askolovitch · 17/11/2023 11:14

OuiOuiKitty · 17/11/2023 11:11

Hatred towards what? I don't know how old these kids are but you don't need to be indoctrinated to know that illegal occupation is wrong, to know that apartheid is wrong, to know that starving 1million kids is wrong, to know that killing 1000s of kids is wrong? People on this thread have mentioned how wrong it is that Israeli kids were killed. The same goes for Palestinian kids. It isn't controversial to say that any of the above is wrong and should be stopped now. And you don't need a degree in geopolitics to know all of that just morality.

If morality was involved both parties would be held accountable.

Sausagenbacon · 17/11/2023 11:14

You'll have to allow me my pov I'm afraid.

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Thewolvesarerunningagain · 17/11/2023 11:21

Violetparis · 17/11/2023 10:46

I expect most of these kids haven't got much of a clue about the situation and are marching for the excitement of it and the chance to post photos of it on social media. The adults who joined in and surrounded a Labour MPs office are encouraging mob rule, intimidation and aggression. I fear what may happen to any MP who does not agree with the mob.

A bit condescending here! Plenty of children of this age are politically aware and well informed about the issues that affect them. Good for them in getting out and protesting. We don't have to agree or disagree with protestors but the fact that the nations kids aren't cowed into apathy and are prepared to assert their democratic rights gives me some hope for the future

IfYouDontAsk · 17/11/2023 11:23

Noelectricheating · 17/11/2023 10:10

It's encouraging hate and hate speech.

From the link 'In one clip a man can be heard leading chants on a megaphone, shouting "Israel is a-" before the young crowd responds "terrorist state".' Seriously children shouldn't be listening to hate speech like that. It just encourages children to join in with adult hatred.

Don't use children here for political ends.

Completely agree. What sort of organisation would encourage children to disrupt their education (especially considering how much they’ve already missed in recent years due to Covid and school strikes) to do this?

kweeble · 17/11/2023 11:23

Children are reacting to seeing other children being starved, murdered and bombed in their thousands. They have a conscience whereas politicians want to appease Netanyahu.
The Hamas attack was abhorrent but Israel as a state has no right to destroy Gaza and its people.

Parkingt111 · 17/11/2023 11:24

Askolovitch · 17/11/2023 10:00

Maybe they could have tied a ribbon for each dead child in Israel too?

I have to say I agree with this part. If the purpose was to highlight children against war then it should have included all children who died on both sides.

Parkingt111 · 17/11/2023 11:28

Due to how much access children have of social media where we all know has some very traumatic content, there will be many children who are affected. If schools are concerned about this they should be taking steps to address this in a professional manner and provide the support that is needed. Many of you will know my views on the IDF and the Israeli government which I absolutely detest but I don't think this is the way forward in schools. This energy could be channelled in a more constructive way

Askolovitch · 17/11/2023 11:30

Thewolvesarerunningagain · 17/11/2023 11:21

A bit condescending here! Plenty of children of this age are politically aware and well informed about the issues that affect them. Good for them in getting out and protesting. We don't have to agree or disagree with protestors but the fact that the nations kids aren't cowed into apathy and are prepared to assert their democratic rights gives me some hope for the future

Most adults haven't got a clue about Israel and Palestine even with years of opportunities to inform themselves. As with any other subject they're content to feel clever with parroting the latest and easier soundbite.
Well informed children will be thin on the ground that's for sure.

OuiOuiKitty · 17/11/2023 11:34

Askolovitch · 17/11/2023 11:30

Most adults haven't got a clue about Israel and Palestine even with years of opportunities to inform themselves. As with any other subject they're content to feel clever with parroting the latest and easier soundbite.
Well informed children will be thin on the ground that's for sure.

I agree with this. The amount of people that don't even know basics like the fact that Israel is an occupying power is 🤯

Noorandapples · 17/11/2023 11:37

During the Iraq war loads of kids went on a peace protest, a very white middle class school and funnily there was no newspaper outrage

curaçao · 17/11/2023 11:50

kweeble · 17/11/2023 11:23

Children are reacting to seeing other children being starved, murdered and bombed in their thousands. They have a conscience whereas politicians want to appease Netanyahu.
The Hamas attack was abhorrent but Israel as a state has no right to destroy Gaza and its people.

It has every right ti destroy Hamas.

Silence1 · 17/11/2023 11:52

Absolutely loads of kids walked out of school to march against the Iraq war but there are a few posters on here who would think that can't possibly have happened because none of us have cared about any other war than the current one.

Parkingt111 · 17/11/2023 11:56

@curaçao to destroy Hamas. Right now they seem to be doing a pretty good job of destroying alot more than that. Like a whirlwind of destruction
Netanyahu said today that although they tried they were unsuccessful in minimising civilian casualties. What sort of trying did they do by using weapons that cause mass destruction and damage? By constantly being an obstacle in allowing in life saving aid?

stormy4319trevor · 17/11/2023 11:57

@Noorandapples I didn't know that! It's difficult with wars. On the one hand, I think children should be given strictly neutral information about them, because any political opinions should be formed when the brain is fully developed. On the other hand, if they are losing friends and family in a war I can see how it is more personal for them.

watcherintherye · 17/11/2023 12:04

Some posters need to learn what radicalisation looks like and how it is achieved

Yes, I'm sure, and others need to learn what basic humanity looks like and how it might be achieved. (Quite often by mass protests drawing attention to inhumanity).

Askolovitch · 17/11/2023 12:07

OuiOuiKitty · 17/11/2023 11:34

I agree with this. The amount of people that don't even know basics like the fact that Israel is an occupying power is 🤯

Thank you for proving my case @OuiOuiKitty
On 7/10 Gaza hadn't been occupied by Israel since 2004.

MorrisZapp · 17/11/2023 12:07

I feel like I'm losing my mind. Every night we see horrifying scenes of death and suffering in Gaza, at the hands of a country our PM flew over to offer support to.

Wanting the death of children to stop is not hatred. How could it be hatred? I don't recognise anyone online any more. It feels like a collective madness to me.