School students marching in support of Palestine

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/palestine-march-tower-hamlets-east-london-israel-gaza-b1120876.html
Why are schools allowing/enabling students to do this?
Is it part of what schools should do, promoting frankly one-sided protest? And what will they decide to march about next? Just imagine being a Jewish student in the middle of this.
I find it sinister.

What the heck is that supposed to mean????

Go away with your nastiness

Jesus Christ- now I have heard it all. Well done for inciting hatred.

Actually it isn’t. This is about land. Always has been and always will be. attempts to frame this as a religious war are bullshit that Israel uses to defend its atrocities.

So take your hate speech elsewhere. while you’re at it, educate yourself about the thousands of Palestinian Christians who were ethnically cleansed to make way for the creation of Israel. Some of them live in Gaza. They are currently at risk of being wiped off the map due a genocide that people are getting so wound up about children protesting.

As other posters have pointed out, this thread has followed the usual route of ones on this board.
Just one question to the posters who can't move beyond saying 'genocide'.
How would you feel if schoolchildren were used by groups dedicated to something you deplored, let's say, auttomatic euthanasia for those over a certain age, and were led, by adults, in marching and chanting.
And their schools let it happen.
Because it will happen. Not for this cause, but some other causes that you might not like.

Apartheid and genocide are horrific terms and I do not use them lightly. Educated people who have years of relevant experience and study in this area have been using these terms to describe Israel. I’ve posted multiple times on the references to support this language including reports by impartial and international bodies to back up the claims that Israel is an apartheid state.

These references are never acknowledged or addressed by the posters concerned. there are no responses except to continue to reject the use of the term if it doesn’t suit their personal narrative. Top UN officials have resigned citing concerns around genocide. 800 professors of international law and conflict studies have signed an open letter citing concerns about genocide. These are experts in their field, they are not armchair commentators that you can just dismiss. So people who continue to say it’s hyperbole, or that some posters are just using them for shock value, are either being disingenuous, or they are ill informed and can’t be bothered to do their research.

I firmly believe the way Israel has acted towards the Palestinians is state sponsored terrorism. The indiscriminate bombing, the forced displacement, the weaponisation of food and water, the attacks on hospitals and ambulances. The use of illegal white phosphorus. So please save your faux moral outrage on these children being encouraged to protest about these live and horrifying issue, by trying to compare it to a random and highly improbable imaginary event (automatic euthanasia, seriously ??).

Could you answer what I posted?

I don't believe that it is 'faux moral outrage' to be concerned about the potential uses of this.
Plus I deliberately said (which you conveniently ignored) that my example was random. But now that organisations (that you might not agree with) know that young people can be used this way, who knows who will use this next.

Your post is a ridiculous moral panic that this march presents some kind of slippery slope to schools allowing kids to be manipulated for all manner of causes by adults and I should condemn it in case in future it’s a cause I don’t agree with.

you have no idea what permissions were sought from parents, schools or the local authorities. These types of school protests do not happen everyday. These are extraordinary global events and there is widespread public support for a ceasefire. It’s not some fringe movement led by crazies.

Well, I don't believe that I'm in a ridiculous moral panic . I just have a poverty, which obviously you don't agree with . Fair enough. But do you always insult people you disagree with? How does that go down in real life?

Pov!

My intention wasn’t to insult you so I’m sorry if I caused offense. I did find the tone of your posts to be a bit condescending and I don’t like the way you’ve framed this march as being “sinister”. To me the implication there - particularly when coupled with other language used on this thread like indoctrination or radicalization - is quite offensive.

Because many of them are from that area, their parents are asking for their children to be allowed to participate

It's a protest against the British government supporting the war which is killing their families

Its wrong and points to the importing of hatred and religion into our western countries when it took centuries for us to shrug this off.
I'm glad France is taking a tough line on this, unfortunately UK doesn't.

Because many of them are from that area

Tower Hamlets?

the casual racism on this thread is something else.

Yep, at least he said Israel should stop the bombing and hoped other leaders would join him in calls for a ceasefire. He could have taken a stronger stance but it's a start and shows France is against the attacks on Gaza, at least.

I could be wrong but I read it as @Loulou599 is saying France is taking a tough line on allowing protests and the UK should do the same. there’s a lot wrong with the UK but I’m glad to live in a country where free speech is (for now) still respected. The approaches taken by France and Germany to pro Palestine marches makes a complete mockery of freedom of speech and association.

It's funny that people genuinely think religious hatred doesn't exist in "the West". They may also have forgotten that any religious symbols, such as the cross and skullcaps, are similarly banned under the French school law, no one religion is singled out.

I was talking about the genocide deniers on this thread. The several posters who repeatedly complain when I name what's happening in Gaza.

And "loser take" is quite funny. Maybe worry about the thousands of kids who have been blown to bits rather than those who attend marches with their parents. That might be a better take for you.

Anyway I have to get the kids ready for today's march. Have a nice day.

I am not surprised at all about the children protesting. It seems obvious to me that watching the daily events in Gaza will upset a lot of people and compel them to do something. All that people here can do is march to somehow show the people in Gaza that they have not been forgotten.

The events of October 7th were also horrific and the hostages need to be freed but that is within the remit of Israel.

People in other countries can only tell their governments what they think. It is natural for people to have strong feelings about this. BBC News yesterday showed massive crowds outside the only functioning flour mill/bakery which had no supplies. Some people had not eaten for two days. Families were shown saying goodbye to their dead children. This is being done by people who our government supports. Anyone with a shred of humanity would want to do something - even children.

Ah given the rest of the post I think you're right! I was only responding to the last part, there were unpleasant undertones to the first part and I'm not naive enough to think the West is a haven free of religious hatred.
I also thought they were referring to the French law banning religious symbols, apparently my brain hasn't fired up properly yet!

If it's to do with banning protests, then I don't agree at all. It's very surprising, especially given that Macron isn't in support of the bombing.

Yes, tell that to the Jewish people who suffered two thousand years of religious persecution in Europe followed by a holocaust. or the current day hijabi woman who could never get a decent job in France.

please tell me again how Europe is free from hatred.