6500 Dead: "Creating a severe humanitarian crisis is a necessary means to achieve the goal. Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist" Israeli Military Official

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Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[a] in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.[1][2] Wikipedia

Reservist Major General Giora Eiland told Israeli media on Monday that Israel’s actions in “creating a severe humanitarian crisis is a necessary means to achieve the goal. Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/25/gaza-is-out-of-fuel-out-of-time-under-israels-bombardment

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/24/israel-hamas-war-live-fuel-shortfall-could-force-un-to-halt-work-in-gaza-2

Oxfam says starvation is being used as a weapon of war against civilians in Gaza, adding just two percent of usual food has been delivered to the enclave since Israel’s “total siege”.

I don't understand this " what about".. me not defending terrorist groups as Hamas or Islamic jihad does not mean I defend israelians killing innocent gazans or me defending settlements.. I'm not Israeli and I'm not Jewish, I'm just horrified about the images hamas shared of their attack and I truly want hamas to dissappear. Not just for Israel safety but also for gazans safety, they deserve a government who wants to protect them send give them opportunities like education and employment instead of using foreign aid in killing Israelis.

I am so tired of that argument too. Just because a government is elected democratically doesn't mean they can do no wrong, remember Iraq! And if we start crediting or discrediting people with the decisions governments make then we should hold all Israelis who voted for this government responsible for it as well. That is all that democratically elected means and it is a bloody stupid argument for dumb bots. Being democratic doesn't mean all your decisions are correct

Are we allowed to believe our own eyes ? The horrific scenes of mothers cradling their dead babies ? Live posts from independent photo journalists on the ground or UN agencies ? Scenes of an Al Jazeera bureau chief bidding goodbye to his family in body bags ? Are they all liars and professionals actors or Hamas puppets ? ?

Seriously the pro-Israeli gaslighting has to stop. Thousands of innocent civilians are being killed in Gaza by israel. Those who aren’t being bombed to bits are slowly starving or dying as a result of lack of water - which Israel is intentionally withholding. They’ve cut all electricity and access to internet so their crimes are visible.

I don’t care if the real numbers are 10 or 10,000. It’s genocide and it must stop.

Then let's call it as it is. Western world considers it perfectly acceptable for Muslims to be collateral damage. Even Muslims who are citizens of the western world. Does that sound better?

Yes you are right all governments can do wrong but as I said before between believing hamas or Israel government I do believe the last one.

You still didn't answer my question.

"Using foreign aid"
Please educate yourself on the topic before coming here with your ignorant comments. Did you think that Palestinians rely on foreign aid because of laziness? Because they love the ease of relying on outside aid? I have just shown you the video of a farmer not in Gaza quietly working on his field and those terrorists came and murdered him. They are terrorists because they routinely terrorise Palestinians and push them out of their lands into refugee life. They use KuKluxKlan methods.

Israel News
Opinion | How Do You Say Ku Klux Klan in Hebrew?

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2021-02-01/ty-article-opinion/.premium/how-do-you-say-ku-klux-klan-in-hebrew/0000017f-db53-df62-a9ff-dfd7de100000

Violent Israeli Settlers Are Starting to Resemble the KKK
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-02-10/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/violent-israeli-settlers-are-starting-to-resemble-the-kkk/0000017f-e69d-dea7-adff-f7ff4a810000

BBC News - Palestinians under attack as Israeli settler violence surges in the West Bank
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67173344

Also the Israeli government has been stripping them of their rights with their apartheid regime.

It is evident that you came here full of prejudice and bias against Palestinians. I can detect from the tone of your comments. If you truly want to know what's really happening there, we are here to help you do that. I know that many people didn't have the full picture.

Here is a selection of books written by academics who are Jewish:

On Palestine by Noam Chomsky and Ilan Pappé (Jewish American and Jewish Israeli)
https://amzn.eu/d/7sQJoVU

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappé
https://amzn.eu/d/90RsXkt

You may need to read about Manufacturing Consent and Propaganda Model as well as Atrocity Propaganda.

If you have genuine questions you are welcome to ask them in a respectful way.

Pray why? Or is it simply that any source of news be it individual, country, news organisation becomes untrustworthy for you as soon as they point out the atrocities committed by Israel?

Thank you for the links, really appreciate it. It's always good to see other points of views and learn more about this subject but I think you are reading my comments with prejudice, you think I said laziness when I never saud that. What I said is gazans they deserve better government, there is huge unemployment and hamas instead of using foreign aid to create employment they use that aid in buying arms. I never said were lazy, lots of palestinian in uk who study/work.. what I said their government don't care about them.

@Alohapotato, as previous posters have said you dont just need to believe Hamas you just need to see any of the live feeds that were till now coming from Gaza. But you seem hell bent on just believing the biased narrative from Israel and parroted by our media

the Israel government the one that every single proof they released about the hospital attack was a lie ? The ones that blame Palestina for killing a a journalist and then it was proof it was them ?

Rachel Corrie, bulldozed, but no she just happened to appear in front of them

They never lie!

Not her tho also another lie
I meant Shireen Abu Akleh

Yes, I know
I was just adding another lie to their long list of lies

I mean do you believe anything Nigel farage says or would you support him? As netanyahu is the Israel version of farage

https://www.vox.com/world/2023/1/20/23561464/israel-new-right-wing-government-extreme-protests-netanyahu-biden-ben-gvir

The Israel government are fast losing any credibility, they are wilfully murdering civilians whilst hiding behind the new bogeyman Hamas who they claim are popping up all over Gaza at the moment: in hospitals , under hospitals, in homes of Al Jazeera journalists, in the midst of people warned to move to supposed areas of safety. I don’t think anyone with a modicum of sense would believe the Israel government after the last few weeks.

^ The deafening silence of the majority of the human race. We are a plague.

God forbid if there were any terrorists hiding under GOSH which is quite possible since we have an extensive tube network; will UK even consider carrying out any activity endangering GOSH leave alone bombing it?

It is the same for any building housing civilians and children in any country.

Why is it okay for Palestinian hospitals to be bombed because there are terrorists hiding underneath? The only logical reason is because Palestinian lives are worth less than nothing.

All the governments, companies, hollywood stars who sent out profuse messages for the graphic killings of 1400 people in Israel are completely quiet. Seems like being killed in a bomb strike is not horrific enough, being killed by a bomb strike as soon as you are born is not horrific enough, being killed because there is no oxygen in your incubator is certainly not horrific enough.

Or maybe if you are Palestinian then your death is never going to be horrific enough for the world to sit up, take notice and support you.

If Netanyahu is a fascist what it is hamas?
I'm not Jewish but I could live in Israel, I could be gay, I could be a single mum or different faith ( Muslim or Christian)etc under Netanyahu government. I do not like him but I would not be able to live in Gaza as single mum by choice, as gay,as different faith (jew) etc.. so I understand why not to defend Netanyahu but why to defend hamas government?

To me israelians are much more closer to European values ( freedom of faith, freedom of love etc) and that's why I'm so against terrorist groups as hamas attacking democrat countries because they ho against of what I believe.

why do you have to choose whether you love more mum or dad ? Why can’t it be that you don’t love any of them ? So no I couldn’t live In Gaza as a single mum but nor could I support him for killing mums in the nearby country either.
and this is not about only October 7. These war has been happening for decades where thousands of Palestinians have been killed. In 2014 20k were killed by Israel forces. In 2023 so far 7k in only 20 days

Ah, i really really want to avoid personal comments but your powers of reasoning leave much to be desired. So basically if someone doesn't have the same way of living they are fair game? That is such a dangerous argument. If you were living before or during the American civil war then slavery would be just right because it was a way of life and who could ever think of living in those African nations?

So you could think of living in America since it has the same values as UK so they must be right in enslaving all those aafricans because their way of life and ofcourse appearance was different than yours?

Shame on you. At least dont hide behind niceties and dont fool yourself about your true nature

you are twisting my words, what I say is you have freedom under Netanyahu goverment but not under Hamas goverment. I never said I thought slavery was ok and I would not live under a goverment who thinks is ok.
and as I said before I'm not Jewish and I'm not Israeli so everything I say is from my point of view, I never lived there but it breaks my heart to see so much antisemitism that people support a terrorist group like hamas

do you remember ISIS? They thought it was ok to have yadizis slaves and Hamas or Islamic Jihad are not much different to ISIS. I never heard of Netanyahu goverment having slaves.

This is not called twisting words this is called reasoning. It was an example of what your reasoning would look like during the civil war.

You were not able to extrapolate your thinking based on your points of reference so i did it for you to show how horrible it was.

Having a different way of living from yours is never a good argument for killing people regardless of who it is coming from.

And yes what happened to Yazidis was horrible, what happened and is happening to Rohingyas is beyond horrible and what happened to Yemenis is horrible too.

And none of that justifies what Israel is doing and you are just justifyinf it because they have the same way of living as you.

When did I say I justify killing innocent civils? Read again my posts, I always talked about hamas, never about non terrorist gazans...

I've seen in this post and other posts justifying the attack on the 7th of October because of the conflict. Why is it OK to minimise jewish people dying or being kidnapped?

Nothing justifies civils dying ( gazans or Israeli)

Interesting. Do you trust the word of the Israeli Government then? Extreme right wingers like Netanyahu and Ben Gvir? Who are known and proven liars? Like when they used white phosphorous in 2008-2009, documented and proven by more than one international institution, but denied it until they couldn't anymore. Don't bother asking me for the proof - do some leg work yourself, there is plenty available. Ben Gvir who has purchased weapons and armed 'civilians' in the last few days with guns to use against Gazan peoples - one of whose recipients was shown, clearly, on no less than the BBC 10 o'clock news last night, calling those Gazans 'animals' and 'inhuman'. I imagine last night's BBC news is readily available on iPlayer if you're unsure about its veracity.

@Gardenowl

God forbid if there were any terrorists hiding under GOSH which is quite possible since we have an extensive tube network; will UK even consider carrying out any activity endangering GOSH leave alone bombing it?
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It is the same for any building housing civilians and children in any country.

What a ridiculous comparison! For one the UK would hardly bomb it’s own people, GOSH is part of the UK you know, and two do you think the NHS would allow terrorists who wanted to kill civilians to have their HQ there? Does the UK have a habit of deliberately storing rockets and placing strategic command posts in civilian areas including schools, hospitals and residential buildings? Does any civilised country?

The government of Gaza does and it’s well documented. Funnily enough they specifically do this so when Israel try to destroy their weaponry, which is one of the first things an opposing side does in any war so they can’t continue firing it at them, they can scream about Israel killing civilians.

The idiots sitting in a the comfort of a safe country who’s Government protects them, and even allows them to protest and stand on the side of these monstrous terrorists say ‘You can’t do that, you must have magic powers to only pick out actual government terrorists camouflaged among thousands of civilians, a majority of whom support them, and actually you can’t hurt them either, you must let them have free entry into your country so they can continue their atrocities while we continue giving them aid so they can buy more armoury to kill your citizens, you deserve it because you took their land, even though it may not have been their’s in the first place!’

What the government of Gaza did against Israel on the 7th October was an act of war was it not?

Or was the invasion into another country and the horrific mutilation, murder, torture, rape, setting on fire and kidnapping of over a thousand civilians including babies while celebrating it for the whole world to see just a act of legitimate protest?