Ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Just to start us off.

May this be a happy and lucky thread for all of us.

for all of us old dears who were young in the 80s

saw him last year and nearly cried with happiness.

I'm still hanging on in here, waiting for my date at the EPU next Wed. Every couple of days I get a tiny spot first thing in the morning, so who knows what's in there.

My heart goes out to all of you who are feeling bad today.

Just have a drink and enjoy yourself. Party like it's 1990.

xxxxx

Diege - we've seen the pics, you don't need botox...
MsLucy - that has brightened my afternoon -Smiths SO my era. I am human and I need to be loved..... may the days til next Weds speed by and all be well.

Jollster ah yes but that was with the botox...I am looking rather craggy faced around the eyes and have these strange vertical lines onmy mouth ('blow job lines' - how can that be??? )
mslucy I love The Smiths too! Re: spotting, I'm sure if it's something that isn't getting worse, things will be fine, though I can see your need for reassurance.
Right, dd2 has friend round for tea so better look as if I am doing more than MNing...

I relate to the giving up vibe. When I wanted to get pg first time, it was so easy - shagging was fun, no problems conceiving, no worry about miscarriage, no real concerns about abnormalities... this time it is just worry all round.

I think I would be less concerned about the birth, and looking after a newborn isn't exactly that hard, is it... but in lots of ways I'm sure I would be a far more anxious parent that I ever was before.

Bill for Dr T came today - £500!

Thinking I could be planning citi-breaks and shopping in Hobbs instead....

500 pounds sassy.Good lord, that is outrageous!

Though, having said that, I pay more than that yearly for our health insurance and if I saw a fertility specialist I'd have to pay out of pocket too, but it would be a lot less than that.

I too feel ambivalent about another baby. I chop and change daily, but seem to always come back to thinking, "I really must give it another go". However, I think if I have to keep it up for a year, it will grow old. And let's face it, I do have a large brood, and shouldn't be so greedy.

But, if I can see those two pink lines, watch my baby move on an ultrasound, feel the baby moving and kicking inside me, give birth, cradle a newborn, and all the other lovely things about having a baby...then it is worth the angst and time ttc, isn't it?

I suppose the trick is to have a balance whilst we are ttc, and that's the hard part.It is easy to get completely obsessed - spend tonnes on books, opk's,preg tests, etc...It's almost become a hobby for me (that's a bit worrying!!)

I suppose it is a bit hard to take the waiting because it was always so easy until I hit my forties! My first 4 we conceived the first month I tried, and even when trying to avoid pregnancy! But my last took 7 months. It did happen though, and maybe I have to wait a little longer this time.I'm just not sure when I'll stop trying and if I'll bother with contraceptives.

Anyway, what I mean is, I share those feelings, which I think are understandable.

Yes, I am in the tww. Had a really big temp jump this morning. I didn't do the SMEP properly (sorry,girl's, just couldn't - my DH was too tired on O day)But I did get SWI in two days before O and one day after, so hopefully there were plenty of troops in place...time will tell!

Off to the farmer's market today.Can't wait to be taking a bump with me. Fingers crossed...

The other bit of the bill turned up today, so all in all £660 to find out:
I am fertile, (yes, I knew that as have regular periods and mid-cycle pain every month) and I might get pg - or maybe I won't, as I am old.

We are clearly mad
More money than sense

Anyway, yipee doo... the opk was negative yesterday, so had the night off...

oh I forgot about the NHS tests - 2 sperm tests and a 21 day bloods...

We didn't pay for those, but it must take the total over a £1k...

I suppose we bought reassurance that's it not impossible... might have been cheaper and more fun to see a fortune teller instead

Afternoon . Sounds like a good job doen there re: troops Gum; I do like your take on the baby ambivalence - very reassuring!
Sassy phew that is a lot of money At least you do have the reassurance though, rather than the 'what if..' Were the NHS tests all ok?
Well as is sod's law it's coming up to ov time here and dh and I are having major 'words' today...he's gone off sulking in the shed while I of course have to carry on the daily grind of preparing meals/doing the washing etc while he 'indulges' himself .No sign on the opk yet though so can carry on being grumpy

lol @ Diege 's selective peacemaking...

Ok, lets get this thread back on track...

1. Babies are very, very cute
2. Maternity wear is very fetching these days
3. Baby clothes are adorable.
4. If you pg you can eat lots of chocolate and not feel guilty.
5. Babies are very, very cute.

Is that persusasive?

Oh go on then, put me down for one..
Dh still sulking in shed, and I have just the hint of EWM and a hint of a line on the opk (cd 9) so looking like I'm on target for ov around day 12, as with last month So the upshop is I can sulk to my heart's content for at least 2 more days

Won't he get supscious when you suddenly jump him on Monday...
No, you're right... probably not...

I am eating my way through a packet of Tunnock's Tea cakes... I have to get pg now, so nobody notices how fat I have got...

Gumblossom what do you mean you didn't stick to the plan... I thought you were trail blazing for us... I need a pos opk tonight to start the 3 day spurt (pardon the expression ) Otherwise you end up with a 4 in a row marathon shagging session...

Is anyone else actually worried that this could actually kill their DH?

Hee hee, luckily we've sort of made up so by Monday we should be spot on. I did actually mention the SME plan last night and dh is very keen (keeness prompted by a teeny fib - I said that a few of the dhs from the snug were finding it hard going and had given up, so of course wanting to 'prove' himself as top snug-dog

You are a sneaky woman Diege well done

I have not told DH about the SMEp. He is miseable enough!

Well, needs-must I suppose...
Am getting lots of positive vibes about our babies-to-be after your uplifting 'reasons-to' post Sassy

Firstly, I am so sorry ladies I fear it was me who sent us all spiralling off for a while there.

I agree babies are very cute

diege you do not need bloody bottox - you is a beautiful lady (said in an Ali G voice).

I love the way you told your DH that other men can't keep up with the SME plan (sneaky but very good!)
My Dh would just say, "Bloody hell I don't stand a chance then!"

gum great image of you off to farmers market with huge bump Sounds like you got lots of troops up there and the temp rise is a good sign.

sassy We have a packet of those tunnocks tea cakes here too - delivered by the tescos man (he saw nothing beattie). My boys keep on eating them and I have to keep shouting, "How many of those have you had?" Please don't tell social services!

I am on day 4 now and what was a full on bleeding session has returned to horrid brown, end of period gunk (thanks for that Hippy). I will begin peeing on OPK's about day 7. I may also try to squeeze in a reflexology session next week before I ov. We can't really afford it now I'm not working but I haven't been to her for ages, last time I spoke to her was to tell her that I had a BFP at the end of May. Swiftly followed by an email in June saying yadda yadda yadda lost again .

Anyway the last time I got a BFP was when she did some extra stimulation on my ovary area just before day 11, so I might just try that. £30 once a month is not a huge amount is it???

sassy we saw a consultant back in december who was rubbish. He guessed that I wasn't ovulating and told me I was very unlikely to get pregnant again. I have been pregnant twice since the silly old fart told us that. He then tried to charge us £350. I wrote a letter refusing to pay as I felt he had not done any of the things he originally talked about and mearly made a huge assumptoin about me based on my age and the fact that I have endometriosis. He wrote back saying he was going to seek legal advise and I've not heard from him since. I WILL NOT pay him. However, I am not suggesting that you don't pay yours at all, just telling you about my experience because you weren't on this thread at the time.
I wouldn't say you have more money than sense (although i don't know how much money you have ). I think you needed to be re-assured that it would all happen again for you, so in that respect it's money well spent.

I hope you are all back on track after i made you all go .

It was nice to hear that I'm not the only one who sometimes wonders what I'm doing.

Have finished that book and would recommend it as an encouraging read (although of course personally I had a crisis whilst reading it but I do not think the two were related .)

jolly lots of love to you.xxx

I wouldn't pay him either Hippy and err.. £30 is small fry... someone spent that on a lava lamp in here the other day... you go for it girl...

OPK was neg again... boo
EMSp goes ok, cd8, cd10, and today, cd12..
I'm not totally convinced by these OPKs though... sat down and worked out that last 4 cycles have all been 26 days, and I always get mid cycle pain on day 13/14/15.. so on CD12 shouldn't I probably be fertile, and shouldn't the opk be positive?

The thing is, I feel fertile TMI, but ewm, cramps, penetrative sex feels comforting, easier to arouse etc.

Oh well, if I don't get up the duff, we are off to the South of France 2 weeks today... so I will spend the week merrily pissed, or merrily pg... Not sure which to hope for Ok, I am... but it would be a fair compensation....

sassy if you feel fertile - get up them there stairs and go for it. Gotta go with how your body feels. Sticks arn't always right.

Now I mean it woman. I don't wanna see you in that snug!!!!

have never used OPKs
just go have sexual intercourse Sassy

wave to all - immersed in X Factor and my gorgeous SC x

and why bother going upstairs...?

I don't ever seem to get a positve on opks so not sure that the smep will work for me.

Will try with the clear blue fertiliy monitor maybe next month.

just remember to close the curtains sassy. Quick x factor has finished now....

sassy I don't expect you to answer this right now cos you had better be busy!!! but just wondered if you are using a good strong wee sample for the OPK's. You need to have not peed for a good couple of hours. If the sample isn't good and yellow it wont work.

Just a thought. hope you're having fun.

jolly Simon Cowell is NOT sexy .... repeat after me.....

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