Ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Just to start us off.

May this be a happy and lucky thread for all of us.

Isn't he gay though sassy?

Gum I still think you need to shag on other days with a cbfm, I got a peak yesterday which I think was also ov day, am a bit peed off that I didn't swi the day before too. I am starting to think that the key is not temps or opks but cm. This often arrives for me in the 2-3days before peak on the cbfm and temp rise. For some reason though I seem to fail to swi during that time every month.

Hope temps are still high for you this am hippy

Off to work , in meetings all day so won't be able to slack at all today, actually have to work

Have been goggling is Nigel Slater gay - I am not very observant I'm afraid. I have previously been to dinner parties and failed to notice other guests were black...
"Y'know - the black guy"
"Who? Someone was black?"

Am going to do the EMSp - so
CD8 - tick
Today is my day off.

Can I please order oodles of sympathy for if I don't get pg this month, as I will be feeling very aggrieved

I'll have Nick from CSI. Always forget his name. Or Warwick. Although he's dead now. What WERE the producers thinking??!!

CD I've given up counting today. GP this evening. Let's have some answers, doc.

Please can I have cheesey balls ... crisps that is

Don't give up hope hippie The positive is that if you do get AF you'll be counting down to ovulating again whereas I am in no woman's land. :-(

sassy how can you have failed to spot someone was black??? I guess it shows that you see the person by their personality not the colour of their skin - all very politically correct! Or maybe you're just colour-blind

Thanks for the nice things you said about me gum. I agree that rowing is soarly missed. She was here when I first joined this lovely thread and I had really hoped she would graduate off to the preggy section.

Well ladies, it's all gone shit here in the Hippy household:-

Temperature plummeted this am,
Dolly Parton took her boobs back
and AF arrived - hoo hiss

I'm sorry to sound so sorry for myself - I know that many of us are in the same situation and I know that others got BFN's recently too. It's just that my symptoms were looking good and I was so pleased that I thought I had conceived close to my lost little one's due date. I don't know why that seemed right for me but I liked the poetry of it - life is not always obliging though is it?

Anyway, i wondered if it was an embryo that tried to implant but failed (a very very early CP maybe). So if it wasn't right i would much prefer it this way than to be preg and then lose at 6 weeks or something like that.

On the plus side my temperature chart was absolutely text book this month, up and down in the all the right places which is great for someone of 44 - and I had a 13 day Luteal Phase which is good for me.

So i am trying to focus on the positives.

Can i join you in having a good feeling about this cycle please diege??

I am going to really go for it this month when i get the pos on the OPK. Hopefully it should be around a week-end which works so much better for us.

Have told DH that he must try harder - but it was said with a smile and a squeeze of his bum so he knows I'm joking (I'm not really though - I am gonna work Mr Hippy like mad this month).

ps. beattie can you stop that please, I can see you. blimey that woman is insatiable!!

djinnie sorry I was busy doing my post and crossed with yours.

LOL - can I have cheesy balls? Very funny.

All the best for the docs today. I know that occasionally women just miss out a cycle so it may be something like that. I hope they do all the blood tests and can tell you soon where you stand.

Keep us posted.

hello everyone.
for everyone with BFNs but know that the crisp and choc filled delights of the snug will soon have everyone smiling again.

My crisp choice would prob be sweet chili flavoured Kettle chips if I'm feeling poncey or good old Walkers cheese and onion if I'm being a bit more low rent.

Or anything. Bombay mix would be good too. And some of those tubs of M&S mini brownies/flabjacks.

dribbles

Go for scan at EPU a week today. Not looking forward to it much as last time I was there (a month ago) they told me I'd had the mc (only a week before I'd seen the fetal heartbeat and everything).

I was a regular visitor there back in 2008 as needed IUI to get up the duff, so they all know my lady parts rather too well.

Awwwww sorry to hear about AF hippie Better luck next month.

I'll passon news as soon as I have it :)

just popping in to say ARSE in a loud voice at Hippy's unwelcome visitor... but defo focus on the positives of this last cycle.

HIPPY SNUG NOW
Sorry she showed sweety maybe say the word 'BOLL%KS' loudly a few times that usually works for me
You know I don't quite know what's crappier BFNs or early losses, I'm serious, I get in a worse state with BUM cycles than I do when I lose early......but I know I had a cycle like yours one before last and I got so upset with the stark white tests (I even smashed the test in the end) I had symptoms really strong ...the boobs...the temps...the loadsa cm...I even told DH I was pretty sure I was PG and nothing !!!!! So I'm gutted for you.....but your gonna go at it like rabbits this month (maybe BEATTIE can advise and hopefully catch that GOOD egg xx
DJINNI Hope you get some answers today
MsLUCY Do you have any symptoms or anything ? Really hope this goes well for you

Hippy Thanks, all best wishes for your attempts next month and go easy on Mr Hippy! (IMHO) I think Mr Hippy had better watch out, if he needs a push in a pushchair to get him going he could be in for a shock!

Sassy how?s it going?

Diege thanks, I hope your work meeting went well. Why does fake tan make your boss do what you want! Wish it did for my boss!

My crisp choice would be those veggie chips made from beetroot, parsnip and sweet potato BUT I am not allowed any of that malarkey on Rosemary Conley. As far as men go my DH is pretty hard to beat but Brad Pitt could probably give him a run for his money and I do love George (Clooney) and also the guy from Burn Notice, Jeffrey Donovan ? he?s not much to look at but he can do amazing things with mobile phones etc and he is a spy!

By the way when you were all talking about leaving it to stand I thought you meant the test not the wee! If wee were left to stand in our house my DD would probably try painting the walls with it!

Beattie Laughing at you and the Sainsbyuries man, I think he probably would find it mightily embarrassing, hope he did not realise what he had interrupted!

mslucy I had IUI to have my DD, that was about 6 years ago now. Do you just have one child or more? Apologies, I find it hard to keep up with all the news!

Jollster I can't believe those cats are fighting, they seem to have a nice life, what have they got to fight about!

Jollster - thanks for your kind comments, yes I have heard that theory and it makes a lot of sense, though not definitely proved as far as I know but as you say, there must be plenty of evidence walking around. I have a friend who has two children from donor eggs and one definitely looks like her!

This may be of interest to anyone else who is looking into donor eggs
www.bionews.org.uk/page_46274.asp

Quote from website - "The term epigenetics first came to my attention about 18 months ago. Browsing a well known infertility web forum I came across a post which told of a branch of science that was proving that recipients of donated eggs could have an influence on how genes were ?turned on' in the child they were carrying. It referred to an example from the equine world:

?In horse breeding for example, it's not uncommon to implant a pony embryo into the womb of a horse. The foals that result are different from normal ponies. They're bigger. These animals' genotype ? their genes ? are the same as a pony's, but their phenotype ? what their genes actually look like in the living animal ? is different. The implication of epigenetics is that the child inherits characteristics from the woman who carries the child even if the original DNA comes from a donor egg. In other words the birth mother influences what the child is like at a genetic level - it IS her child.'"

BUT I must emphasise that I am not thinking of having a pony!

I am actually feeling quite positive, still waiting for af to turn up! Rosemary Conley today was great, really was fab; I am a fan (I did not actually meet her of course!).

Love, best wishes to the slanket brigade, and chocolate boobs to all, (as they say on the assisted conception thread!) ? I think these biscuit signs are for a no comment but the assisted conception thread use them to look like boobs! (How childish!)

Oh, and sorry not to name check everyone but I am thinking of you all!

Hippy EMS plan for you after all... 7 days to count down xx

Tonight is my night off, so Cosmopolitans all round... xx

Oh no Hippy bollocks smollocks to the whole thing

• what is it with the trickety our bodies play on us? May well have been a very early chemical - I think a few of us have had those recently? I will certainly be trying my hardest to pick up positive vibes in the snug - the ambiance of our soft furnishing will certainly help! xxx

Italian fake tan did naddo today - sent me away with my plea for extra staff and told me to get in the queue with the rest of the pale leggers Still,it only streaked a little and made my legs look thin I'm intrigued to hear about what that actor you mentioned does with his mobile 'phone On the man front - get yer dirty hands off Simon Cowell ladies - he's mine! Thankd for the cosmo sassy - is it ok to being out the chocolate fingers yet? (non-refridgerated,natch). Big wave to everyone else,sorry not to name check for extensively - I have been at work since 7.30 and just finished last e-mail so am seriously flagging - Oh and weirdest af ever - on day 6 (odd,usually 4 days) and lots of black, stringy stuff for the second day - maybe related to that bfp I got??

Oh Bugger Hippy, sorry about the RTD. I have a very good feeling about September.

Well, today is O day I am pretty sure. Have managed SWI last two nights in a row, but I don't know if I'll be able to again!Just don't know if I have it in me!

Dh (bless him) still has no clue of what is going on ovulation wise, so he thinks I'm having a particularly horny stage. I'm surprised he's not yet noticed a pattern.Must be because I am just a love goddess all the time (Snort! This is so not true!)

He's out all day on an excursion to the mountains with his students, so don't know how much energy he'll have later on!

Deige that does sound alot like a CP. I guess the only consolation for that is that you know you can fall pregnant, and hopefully the next egg will be THE ONE (a little golden egg emoticon would be nice).I truly believe that at our age it is just a matter of patiently waiting for the great juicey egg. It will happen (my new mantra).

Hippy, what did you think of that book:Inconceivable? And was it you Deige who was ordering more books? Read them yet?I'd like to hear of any useful tit-bits you pick up.

I must run. Will come and hang in the snug later. Gotto sort out stinky child who has been lazing with the dog in her kennel. Peuw!

P.S. How did the doc visit go Djinnie?

Thanks to all of you for your various swear words at my Auntie Flo .

italian Yes I wondered what that guy did with his mobile phone too.... Loved the comment about my DH being pushed in the pushchair.. jolls I will pass on your concerns for him (he's gonna need that bloody pushchair by day 14!!!)

muchlove I hear you lovie. I too had told my DH that I thought we might have cracked it again this month - and rather embarrassingly I said to my lovely GP the other day when i went about my thyroid, that I thought I might be pregnant again Now next time I see her I have to tell her that I was wrong - oh the shame!

italian that stuff about the pony and horses is very interesting. So if you do end up getting preg with a doner egg your next baby could well be more like your lovely DD than you thought - that would be fab. And of course she/he would still have all your DH's influences so you would see glimpses of DD in there anyway - all good news.

gum You are doing well to keep your DH in the dark. I think mine knows when I am having sex for procreation (maybe he is catching on to the old vest and shorts trick) Blimey it's nearly Autumn I'm gonna have to come up with a new seduction plan soon

Thanks for asking about the book. I am really enjoying it. Do people want me to tell them the ending - I'm nearly there now - or do they not want me to spoil the surprise???? Vote NOW please.

diege I think you probably did have a CP this month. It's interesting what you say about the stringy black stuff . My AF started fairly light yesterday but in the night and this morning it was ..... warning TMI... Great long streaks of very dark blood... you know when you stand up and the blood reaches right down to the loo. Goodness me Hippy, is that description necessary?????

Anyway, i think it is heavier this month maybe cos I had a longer LP or cos something was trying to implant.

I have to say though muchlove I am the opposite to what you said. I would rather have the BFN and forget it than have an early loss. At least I never got to see 2 lines so even if i wonder what all the symptoms were about it was never confirmed.

It's all crap but just different degrees of the stuff

Am loving this being at home lark. Can't go on forever obviously . But for the moment my house is bloody tidy and I don't have to panic that people might turn up unexpectedly and actually want to enter the house .

DS1 will need to apply for his senior school place next month so that should put the cat amongst the pigeons. We moved here when he was 1 and we don't like the local high school. We said back in 2001, we'll we will have moved long before he goes to senior school - erm..... we really need to get moving soon. Someone asked me where on the South Coast we wanted to move to. Although I am tempted to just move in with jolly (I hear there's room!). We are actually hoping to move to the Isle of Wight.

Better stop tying now - this is turning into a blog by Hippy. Sorry to waffle on.

Hello! A working from home day today,so have been out to my physio appointment, did a spot of shopping in town, day time telly- usual fare for working from home . Have to get ds any minute,then up hill to pick up dd3 from 'staggered start' bol*ocks, then down home again for 30 mins, then up to get older dds, then back down again...
Gum I truly admire your determination to get to 3 consecutive SWIs - lol at the dh notclocking on yet .Maybe he's just grateful and is leaving it at that Hippy I think it might well be the case that you had an attempted implantation this month,which I guess would also account for the longer lp? I'm convinced now I had one too (I recall the same stringy stuff from a cp I had the month before dd3 was conceived). I'm not going to test early again - I agree, think I'd prefer not to know it was a cp and just think it wasn;t my month again. I still have my pee stick (from this time), and very clear pos even now. Hopefully it will have kick-started my body anyway - I think it detected v.early on that is wasn't to be.
Right, better check my work e-mail in a half hearted attempt to do something work-related.Oh and I've seen a 'lovely' bronze horse head that might look nice in the snug? Just tell me if you think it's too much Would a soda stream be more appropriate?

now

Morning Lovlies

Oh don't get me wrong HIPPY I love seeing those 2 lines on a PG test - but I have maybe one day of pure joy and happiness followed by complete worry. I can't help it I tell myself what will be will be and if it's meant to stay it will but inside I am terrified and anxious and churned up. Constantly looking for loss of symptoms or spotting.....I don't think (given the chance) I would ever relax until I was holding that baby. But part of me inside now feels am I just craving the romance of another baby but could I really handle the reality ??? Do you know what I mean ? I question whether I have the patience and stamina now and whether my body could go through with it.....BUT then the prize is so fantastic that mentally all of them other concerns get blown out of the water... I just don't know... I guess I'm feeling wistful this morning... By your description it does sound like something was going on in your LP but I spose you'll never know - on the upside you got your thyroid tabs now (have you been taking them) and a fresh cycle and then do the plan thing and before you know it you will be in the 2ww again.

Well I got my Possy on the OPK yesterday and I have still done/stuck to the (plan) one more go tonight before he goes away so I can't give up yet but I'm gonna just give it a few more months and see how I feel then.

GUM You go girl give it one more try just to SEAL THE DEAL

DJINNI How'd it go at quacks ?

Waving out to you all - now off to do ironing and chores

xx

diege the good news is that there are lots of people on MN who seem to get preg the month after a CP. Our dear friend alba being one and you yourself being another. So lets hope we are lucky too (if indeed we did have false starts this month).

It's getting so bloody crowded in here, I keep knocking stuff over - who bought that bloody chrystal thing over there.......

Do we have crystal??? Must be hidden behind the lava lamp. Yes you're rightHippy lets hope the cps herald a lucky September. I will be starting the opks once this black gunk has gone,and may just suggest the sperm meets egg plan to see what dh thinks.... I don't want to risk performance anxiety on peak day though... Muchlove I know exactly what you mean about the romance of having a baby as opposed to the reality,I do waver from day to day really (though not in 2ww)but I think if I did not at least give it my best shot now then I would regret it.

Oh and was it gum who askedabiut my books? Not arrived yet - I do find amazon either incredibly quick or very slow! Oh and Hippy what was that book you read again?

muchlove crossed posts.

Gosh, we really are similar. I keep wondering if my body can actually take being preggers for the full 9 months and wondering if I just want the romantic dream of another baby. Also, I know this is daft, but because we told our boys about the preg earlier this year, i feel i can't let them down. I know what you're all gonna say about that one....

I was relieved in a way that I wasn't preg cos it meant I didn't have to knicker check etc. I kept thinking this morning, I have nothing to fear from this blood - it's just a period and it's harmless. How wonderful to never have to fear that wipe that reveals blood again.

I know I don't really mean it and if I gave up now i would regret it - but the thought of never having that gripping fear from the moment you get the positive is tempting.

All this will change when i get my pos on an OPK, i'm sure of it.

xxx

Crossed with you diege. Not sure who bought that bloody chrystal but I've swept it up and binned it - hope no-one else notices!!! Are we mad?????

Yes, matey - onward and upward this month. My period is quite heavy and I always feel so yucky. Don't like tampons much so always use towels when I'm at home so the heaviness is plain to see - sorry, I will shut up now.

ps. The book is Inconveiable by Julia Indichova. She starts the book with a FSH of 42 and then ends the book with a baby. just wondered if people want to know her big secret or if others are currently reading it and don't want me to spoil the suprise!!!

ps. sorry - I will shut up soon honest.

Just wanted to say that the second thyroid test showed much better levels but there were a lot of anti-bodies.

This shows that my body is struggling to maintain adequate thyroid levels. But she didn't want to start me on the tabs at the moment cos the last result was pretty good. She will re-test in 6 weeks. She did say I would defo need the tabs eventually but doesn't want to start me too soon incase I go over active.

That's good news about the thyroid Hippy, you must be pleased .
So re the book, is the baby not the surprise then? (although I suppose they'd be no book without a baby at the end). I don't have it, but am wanting to know what happens!

Hi all. Just a quick one to say really sorry that the RTD got you Hippy. I understand how you feel about knicker-checking

and also (sharing too much again) does anyone know what could cause copious amounts of white CM - could be 2 days after ov, could be day of ov. Not sure. Scaring me a bit - not thinking of pg, but more sinister things.

thanks. more meetings today - work is really encroaching on my mn time!