CD1 ttc after loss carry on thread #2

[Ladyinpink1]

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@samilicious welcome back! So glad you’ve re-joined us (‘wiping myself into certain thrush’ is both so true and also made me properly laugh in bed and trying to explain why I’m laughing to DH…!) What’s your go-to biscuit?

Quick Q, you mentioned lengthening your cycles. Is there anything you think helped with doing this? Mine are on the shorter side so it’s been something I’ve been thinking about.

@13lucy Yes my situation makes me sad too, hopefully soon our situation changes and we look back at this time as a distant memory 💜
Yesterday I was out for a little walk just, it was nice, still cold but seeing the sunshine makes you think Spring/Summer isn't far off! Chocolate fudge brownie is mine (with peanut m n m's in it) Hope you are ok today x

I will check it out, thank you @Wise0wl have you researched vitamin B6? x

Hi @samilicious what cd are you on now? Lol at the wiping, it's hard not to track even when deliberately not tracking (note to self, research pomegranate juice) lol x

@samilicious I'm on board with shares in mcvities!

I'm ready and waiting for anyone joining me in May TTC 😂 still feels like a million miles away but there we are.

Glad you're back with us ❤️

Hey guys, happy Monday!

@13lucy I'm glad visiting your friend wasn't as bad as you thought. Sorry about the BFN too - it's so shit. I hope AF shows up soon. Good luck at the GP today.

@Wise0wl thanks so much for sharing that. I've been struggling with the idea of Mother's Day for the last week. I've also been toying with the idea of one of their courses but like you think I'll do the acupuncture first. I'm already paying for a therapist, I think there's only so much support you can have 😅.

@samilicious welcome back! You crack me up 😂. I might not be taking my temps but I am staring at my tissue and poking my boobs til I'm bruised so I'm prob kidding myself on at this point 😅.

I'm 10 or 11DPO and BFN today. I'm actually not surprised or upset (yet lol). We didn't hit the best days and I'm convinced something is going on with me but hopefully AF doesn't arrive until I'm home from my in laws.

I had my progesterone test on Friday so hopefully I'll know the result of that by the end of the week. My husband is going to make an appointment to see about getting a sperm analysis. I think I've also decided if we aren't successful by the time we're back from our holiday in May then I'll bite the bullet and go to a private gynaecologist and ask for a work up. I don't think I can keep trying and getting nowhere without having some reassurance that things are okay or knowing that we need help.

@Bugdem123 sounds like you have a good plan in place ❤️ full work up for both of you can only help. Hope your test comes back soon x

@Wise0wl glad you got through it ok too. I felt a bit worse about it last night but I think that's because my sister's been sharing photos of her friends newborn and it reminded me I should be almost 8 months pregnant. Thanks for sharing the link!

@samilicious good to hear from you. Yes I had an MVA and interestingly my luteal phase has now lengthened to 14 days but ovulation still a bit delayed. My new worry is whether I could have scarring from the MVA as my periods are still light. I might go down the private route depending on what my GP says today. I don't fancy more tubes being stuck into my uterus though!

@Ladyinpink1 that would be nice! I just really feel like something isn't quite right but can't put my finger on it. Maybe I'm being impatient but I expected to be pregnant again now. Chocolate brownie would be my second fave!

@Bugdem123 thank you. I hope your progesterone results are ok. I'm thinking about the private route too but no idea how much it all costs?!

You all have much fancier taste in biscuits that me (choc hobnobs here)

@Ladyinpink1 I’m taking a B vitamin supplement but though it contains B6 it’s not specific for B6. I’ll go and Google, thank you!

@Bugdem123 Glad it might be helpful. I know what you mean, and at the same time I want to be saving money in case I’m on mat leave at some point too. I’m so sorry about your bfn, it’s so hard when you secretly get your hopes up. It sounds really positive that you have a plan though.

@13lucy I asked about scarring from MVAs before agreeing to a second, apparently it’s a very small likelihood, though can happen. A scan is my next avenue to explore, especially after I had an EMCS with my successful pregnancy and a doctor commented that my womb was twisted more recently.

Another funny cycle with CB ovulation tests. Started testing yesterday (CD8) and went straight to static smiley today (CD9). This is what happened the month before last, and last month no ovulation til CD18. I have no other signs of ovulation so am now not sure if I can trust it?

@Wise0wl it's strange though as the research papers I've seen say it can be up to 20%! It's hard not to worry isn't it. I spoke to the GP today and she's going to refer me for an ultrasound as everything else is normal. I asked her about scarring and she said she wasn't familiar with that so I think I'll go private in a few months if things haven't changed. I find my period so stressful now as it doesn't flow like it used to and just makes me worry it's not right. Will you go private for a scan and what scan would you get?

@13lucy Up to 20%!! I had no idea it could be so high. If I’m honest I struggle with remembering what my body used to feel like/do at each stage of my cycle. My MMCs have made me lose all sense of what I’m only noticing now because I’m so keenly aware of my cycles and my body.

I’ve now been taking CoQ10 for almost three months, am taking folic acid, vit B & D and C. I’m moving more and going to explore acupuncture this cycle.

If I move onto next cycle, I’ll go back to my GP to check in, and if they’re reluctant I’ll probably see a private GP to see what they say?

@Wise0wl I know! I remember being told it was a very low chance. There are a few research articles on it and it's also classed as a common complication in a few NHS booklets (190 cases in 1000). It's good to know this information! I think it's more common with more surgeries. I've been worrying about it since my periods have been lighter, although they seem to be getting slightly more each time which I hope is a good sign.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.uhnm.nhs.uk/media/9411/20231219-mva-for-surgical-miscarriage-final-july-2020-foi-ref-551-2324-3-of-5.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjXr-Wy0duEAxXdUkEAHTEqByYQFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3EVtAImcgt-8FI9J4JmVQ-

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10865674/#:~:text=IUAs%20are%20a%20possible%20complication,management%20of%20first%2Dtrimester%20miscarriage.

I know what you mean about not knowing what's normal at each stage, especially with being so hyper aware of everything. Acupuncture sounds like a good idea. How many cycles have you been trying for now?

Has anyone heard the strong Bigger Than The Whole Sky by Taylor Swift? It really resonated with my with the miscarriage and nearly ended up in tears listening to it yesterday. Really got me in the feels!

@13lucy thank you for sharing those links, interested to see what my March period is like - Feb's one seemed pretty normal though so fingers crossed!

I haven't heard that song yet but I like her stuff so I'll give it a listen x

Hi @Bugdem123 I'm really sorry about the bfn, it's such a horrible feeling, I hope you are doing ok. When do you head back home?
That's good you have a plan in place and that you will get the progesterone results soon x

@Wise0wl I wonder could you order the cheap one step type opks and take them alongside the clearblue one so that you can double check everything? We are quite close this cycle, I am on cd8 today. x

Thats crazy, those lyrics have to be about miscarriage! @13lucy very fitting song x

Hope everyone is doing ok today, I am good but this is cycle 7 for me since the last loss, my due date for that loss is tomorrow and although I'm ok about it, I am really terrified of another cycle going by without concieving, this is the longest it's ever taken and as each cycle passes I feel more worried that something is wrong.
I am going to track as normal with bbt and opks and drink some red wine after that article lol. I'm taking all of my vitamins, I think we will do smep again and try preseed this cycle. Is there anything else anyone did that they feel helped or anything you can see missing from my list, I would be happy to try x

Morning all, I’ve been a bit quiet but I got a BFP last week. So that’s about cycle day 35 I ovulated I think 🤦🏻‍♀️ after a ‘clear’ peak about day 14 - clearly ovulation tests are not for me! However I’m not seeing any line progression on the tests so bracing myself for a chemical, not feeling very positive. I’ll lurk in the background a bit as feeling I might be back on the TTC wagon fairly soon.

@13lucy glad you got a run in, hope it helps 🤞 well done on your friend’s baby, it’s always tough going to meet the new ones

@samilicious welcome back! You were missed 😊

@Ladyinpink1 I hope you’re ok tomorrow. Thinking of you x

@HerbaceousPerennial what a rollercoaster for you. I really hope it works out and it's not a chemical, pregnancy tests aren't really great for reassurance (although we all do it!). Keep us updated!

@Ladyinpink1 I'm sorry things are so tough right now, due dates can feel quite monumental I think and it's bloody hard when we don't get our BFPs quickly. A bit of red wine sounds like a lovely addition to the plan 🤩 have you had any basic tests via the doctors yet? They'll probably helpfully say it's too soon though 🤦‍♀️

@HerbaceousPerennial oh pet, that's so stressful. I'm keeping everything crossed that it works out for you 🩷 please keep us updated.

@Ladyinpink1 I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. I really relate to the feeling of being terrified the next cycle won't work. It's horrible. Have you got anything planned for tomorrow or are you just letting it pass?

@Wise0wl I don't find the clear blue OPKs work for me - I think my LH rise is too quick as I keep going either from nothing to static smiley or I only get one day of flashing before static. I went back to just using the strip OPKs as I feel like they gave me a bit more control.

@13lucy I love that song, it gets me right in the feels too. I had medical management of my MMC and I'm now having extremely light periods so it may not be MVA related? I've had a look at a few places near me and I think an initial consultation with a gynaecologist is around £200ish and blood tests are about the same and the same again for an ultrasound 😬.

I'm going to say something that's been troubling me but I hope by saying it "out loud" it helps? I'm waiting for my progesterone results and is it weird that I'm almost hoping something is wrong so that I can know why it's not working and get some help? Is that really messed up? Like I don't actually want something to be wrong, but I just feel so convinced that there is that I just want to be able to go "ah-hah, I knew it". This is definitely the PMS talking 😅.

I hope you're all doing okay 🩷

@Ladyinpink1 I really feel for you approaching your due date. I hope you're doing ok and we are all here for you.

@HerbaceousPerennial fingers crossed for you.

@Bugdem123 I'm hoping it's just taking a while to get back to normal but the lighter periods really get me down and make me worry that something might not be right. The consultant that did my MVA said everything looked ok and I should get pregnant quickly, so I'm just not dealing well with the fact I'm not yet, especially with all my blood tests coming back ok. I totally get what you mean with wanting to have a reason for what's happening and something to 'fix'!

I'm having a difficult few days and I think it's the fall out from seeing my friends baby. It's made me realise that I'm so so ready to be a parent and I find it so frustrating that I'm not and no idea if and when it will ever work out for us. The waiting and uncertainty is just so hard and I'm desperate to be pregnant again.

@13lucy seeing friends have what we desperately want is so tough. You did amazing by going in the first place ❤️

Just listened to Taylor Swifts song - I can't help but think it must be about miscarriage. Getting you right in the feels is exactly it...

@Wise0wl well the mcvities thing was a bit of a lie because I'm vegan so think I can eat maybe one kind of them 😂 been on the Morrisons free from choc chip shortbread lately. Don't usually love shortbread but the choc chips make it tasty. Choc hobnobs are banging, I can have the choc chip ones only but hopefully they'll make a vegan version soon

I honestly think the only thing that lengthened my cycles was time (annoyingly). Although they have gotten a bit longer since taking omega 3 and coq 10 (again, not sure if that's time going by at the same time too). I used to be closer to 28-30 days pre-pregnancy, conceived a healthy one when cycles were on the longer end. After MVA they were 21 days for a good 8 months. Has been 24 and now up to 26. Think my lining needed time to recuperate after that brutal hoovering 😅 makes me regret that route a bit, but no way I could have done a conscious medical management mentally at that time. What are yours like now vs past?

@Ladyinpink1 I didn't even get chance to drink it last time, I was already preg! Maybe it's an omen - ordering it makes us fertile? That Amazon tingle? 😂 lost track of my cd tbh I've cancelled Flo. Just noting my periods down in the iPhone tracker but not checking it apart from that. Somewhere in the TWW! How about you?

@ThelastRolo20 thank you! On my last ttc bus with dd we all had Oreo flavoured stuff the cycle we got pregnant with our babies so maybe there is a link?!

@Bugdem123 oh noo your poor boobs! Reassurance stuff sounds good. Interesting about periods different after medical not MVA.

@13lucy how long ago was your MVA? My cycles are longer now but period only lasts 3 days (used to be 5-7) so I'm also convinced something not right. Listened to that Swifty song, heard it before but not listened properly. Love it and hate it when a song hits you like that, right in the feels. Also yes - It's so bloody hard to keep going without an end in sight.

@HerbaceousPerennial that's wild! Hopefully it's a sticky bean and not a chemical 🤞🏻

Sorry longest post ever!

My pregnant BFF just found out she had a MMC at 12w scan. Feel guilty being sad about her being preg but prayed extra hard things would work out for her so that must balance it out, right? ☹️

@samilicious oh your poor friend - I'm glad she'll have you for support though ❤️

I've only had one period after MVA and it seemed normal enough. Haven't had any spotting or anything which I had the cycle after my first MC so I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm normally a 28-29 day cycle so we'll see!

Will stock up on Oreos 😂

@samilicious my MVA was in October last year and my periods are still lighter. Think my first couple barely even got going and wouldn't have even filled a pad in a day and only lasted two days. They have gradually got more normal and I'm on second day of my period today and would say both days have been medium flow. I hope it lasts a bit longer! Still don't think they are back to normal yet though. I had the MVA to remove retained tissue and wonder if things might have been better had I waited for my period and whether it would have cleared on its own. I was too scared of the possibility of bleeding out at any point and I couldn't deal mentally with it dragging on any longer.

@13lucy thank you so much for sharing the links and the song, both so helpful! I’m cycle 4 since my second MMC.

@Ladyinpink1 cycle buddy! I used my spare CB reader (after I had to buy a new pack because my last cycle was so long) this morning. Figured I’ve spent the money already so I’ll use them all up this month and do something else next month?! I’m so sorry about your due date tomorrow. It helped me massively to get that date over with as the anticipation was a lot to cope with. I hope you get through it ok.

@HerbaceousPerennial I have everything crossed for a sticky bean for you 🤞 I’m so sorry it’s been a nerve wracking journey so far. Will you get an early scan?

@samilicious how many cycles is it since your MVA? My whole cycle is shorter (<25 days) but my actual periods are (I think) similar. I’m so sorry about your friend. You being sad that she was pregnant, not you, didn’t cause her MMC. I know you know that, but sometimes it’s helpful for someone else to say it! I am sad for you that your biscuit choice is limited though, surely hobnobs have to cater for a vegan customer?

@Bugdem123 i get that. I felt similarly about the genetic testing. I wanted a defined problem that might be fixed to make sure that it didn’t happen again, but I know I didn’t actually want that baby to have had a genetic problem or for me and DH to be carriers of something, I was just trying to seek answers when everything felt so unjust and inexplicable. I hope the results give you some certainty, either way x

@Wise0wl it's been 14 months so 14/15 cycles now? And still very light / fully stop/starting like not coming away properly. If that makes you feel better or worse that it seems to be a trend @13lucy

Do we need a new thread now, is this one full?