Soy Isoflavones..yay or nay?

[moly39x]

Been doing some research on soy isoflavones & I didn't know what people's opinions are?

I have a 35 day cycle, ovulate between CD17-21 - currently 7th month in of TTC after 1 early loss at 5 week in October.

Do people have any experience with taking them? I read the following on an old thread here about with CD to take them..

My concerns are; I have little/none EWCM (have conceive plus lube) but I get positive OPK every month (temping just stressed me out which I decided would do more harm?!) and I'm sure soy iso is to help ovulate? But now I've read the below, it looks as though it can help the egg. I'm cautious about messing up my cycle so was just looking to hear other people's experience.

Here's the info I've read here (have lots more saved in my notes if people want to see about the dose etc if interest) :)

Thank you x

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

@choccrumpet good luck with the vaccine! You must be 7 dpo today right ? How long is your luteal phase currently xx

@Slk3558 thanks! You're spot on, it's 11 days normally so period due on Sunday which still seems forever away 😅

My faves are the Cauldron sausages and the beyond meat burgers. So yummy

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I’ll look into those. How you doing ? How many dpo are you now?

@choccrumpet let us know how you get on! 😊

Hi @Slk3558 I'm okay thanks, how're you getting on?

I had a little spotting yesterday and so GP sent me to EPU because of a previous issue. I've just got back and I'm not sure what to make of it. She couldn't see anything on a scan, so thought my levels might be too low as you can normally see a sac at hcg of 1000 apparently. My hcg is 1471. She kept talking about ectopics and symptoms to watch out for, but at those levels she said she would expect to see it in the tubes (or in fact anywhere!) so I'm not sure where it is!! There was a little blood in my uterus, but lining was thickened so she didn't seem too worried about that. But just worried why she couldn't locate it.

So I have to go back in two days for another scan. Do any of you know anything about this?

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I'm sorry to hear that and that your scan wasn't reassuring, that's a little frustrating but great that you're going back to get checked out again. I hope you're doing okay. I don't know much about this, could it be in an awkward position that she wasn't able to see anything? Is it worth getting a second opinion before your next scan if that will bring you piece of mind/answers?

Thanks @choccrumpet how're you? Are you feeling okay this evening?

I'm okay I think I'm in no worse a position from a knowledge basis as anyone else, as the outcome could literally be anything 🤪

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 you’re only 19 DPO aren't you, not even 5 weeks from what I understand you normally can’t see a sac until around 5 weeks or 1500-2000 hcg. Try to stay calm until you go back for rescan. Your HCG level seems pretty spot on for your dates. Was it a transvaginal scan ?

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 glad to hear that you sound okay. Is any part of this process fun 🙈 there's always something to worry about. I hope your next scan goes well.

I've been feeling crap today, have just been chilling after dinner and that helps but still feeling meh and tired. If it's not pregnancy related I'm not sure what it could be as I haven't really felt quite this iffy in my tww before 🤷🏼‍♀️ would have thought acupuncture would help with symptoms. Boobs are beginning to be sore to the touch this evening, hoping it's not bad pms because this isn't nice 🤦🏼‍♀️

@choccrumpet when are you testing!?

@Slk3558 yes transvaginal, she just seemed quite worried she couldn't see anything with a level virtually 1500 🤷‍♀️ hopefully she's just being really cautious. Her comment about possible miscarriage or twins has terrified my partner though 😂

@choccrumpet that's very interesting! Sorry you feel rubbish, but interesting it's tiredness you've got 🤞

@Slk3558 how're you getting on?

@Slk3558 I have been 😅 there's nothing on them. Maybe a shadow of something but most likely not. At least now I know what the negative cheapies do look like in case something does start to appear 🤣

@choccrumpet so far no! we go from being on edge in the build up to ovulation, then nervous in the two week wait, if we are lucky enough to get a BFP we are on pins waiting to see a speck of blood ! 🙈🙈

@Marvellouslymadmum do you have a fridge packed full of delicious greens, and will the teens be up for eating it!?

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 nothing much to report my end, I’m only 13 DPO seems like forever since I got that first BFP. Not really had many cramps, no more spotting. Slightly tender boobs. That’s about it. Resisting the urge to test for line progression.

Hopefully in two days it should have doubled and she will able to see the sac. Xx

@choccrumpet yes exactly, you're just doing 'research' right!! 🤣 Good luck, hopefully something will show soon. I booked an acupuncture tomorrow btw also so see if that helps 😆

@Slk3558 yes you're totally right, worry about ovulation, worry about tww, then worry about hcg levels, test progressIon and checking for blood, and then you might just be back where you started but weeks later 🙈🤷‍♀️

I'm all seriousness though that's sounding really good, and like the progesterone could be working well. Will you test again in a couple days?

I’ll probably cave and test in the next few days..I really don’t wanna test again until I’d expect to see some form of dye stealer , at least then there’ll be no ambiguity about what I should be seeing …

Have you tested since 14 dpo x

It feels never ending! @Slk3558 and mind blowing as to how so many people actually have babies 🤦🏼‍♀️ and you're right I forgot you were ahead of me by a few days, does seem so long ago that you got a positive! You're still quite early so your lines are definitely good so far!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 haha yup exactly! I did get some new cheapies and am actually trying them out 😂 acupuncture is a great idea! My next one is on Thursday, interested if she says anything about my symptoms if I don't see anything by then

@Slk3558 yes I have become a testing addict. I tested this morning after he spotting to check if it was fainter and got this one. Your tests are looking great though, I think you might well get a really really strong one

@choccrumpet definitely do ask her. She might be able to tell from your pulse etc as you said she monitors that

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 you've joined the dark side!! Your line looks lovely 😍 I dream of seeing that..

Yes I hope so! I'd love to have more info 😅 don't we all. Hope your appointment goes well tomorrow and you feel better afterwards!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 that’s a beautiful dye stealer!! I just need to get though this next week. 🥺 I forgot to say I have had some cramps today but unusual ones in my inner thighs, comes and goes..any idea what that could be ?

@choccrumpet I'm firmly on the dark side now 🤦‍♀️ you're right it is addictive! And expensive!

Let us know how you get on if you test tomorrow morning or the next day 🤞

@Slk3558 I've never had it but I've read people in here have had shooting feelings down their thighs in early pregnancy. I'm not sure why, but I kept seeing that (and the delightfully named 'lightening crotch') keep popping up

@Slk3558 no news is good news as they say! I'll have a look at those ones thank you.
@choccrumpet @A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I like quorn, though I'm not sure if it's allowed with the Mediterranean diet 🤔 the whole family eat it when I make a spag Bol or lasagne normally too! I've found that halloumi is on there though and I love that!
@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 with the scan I know when I had one at 5+5 they could only just see a sac and said a tv ultrasound might be there only way to pick up more, and my first thought was twins as that would explain the high level but not seeing them yet lol
The shop didn't end up happening today as we had loads to do so getting it tomorrow now but they said they'll try which is good. And that's a great test you have there!