🐧 Penguin Huddle 🐧 Thread 36 - TTC after pregnancy loss

[Kiki275]

Welcome to the 🐧 huddle. This a safe place to give and receive support for everyone who has experienced the loss(es) of a pregnancy or baby. Pregnancy and child loss is one of the most difficult things we can experience and it can also be the most lonely time too. So many of us have found much comfort from other lovely ladies on this thread, together we're rooting for lots of BFP's! Let 2020 end on a positive note x

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[Mumlili9]

@Avocuddles hello hun lovely to hear from you sadly im no closer to my rainbow and its increasingly looking unlikely now with my age and DH has now been put on beta blockers. My periods are getting lighter and shorter with every month. So somethings going on with me but thanks to good old covid it looks like RMC won't be continuing to see people for a while yet.

@kim80 im back at work so all recovered but still in limbo still don't know why I cant get pregnant now.

Its odd a year ago I was worried that if I got pregnant I would lose it again, then I had the ectopic and lost my tube. Everyone said you will still get pregnant with one tube but I've not managed it yet and we covered all the bases. Its really stressing me out. Im 39 its really getting very late in the game. Its horrid to think when we started this journey I was 35 and still considered young but just 4 years on and how the doctors attitude has changed. I seems they Really couldn't give a crap now. Sorry dont really know the purpose of this post other than to moan 😕.

[Avocuddles]

@Mumlili9 I'm so sorry to hear how badly life has treated you, its devastating that covid is causing delays to investigations and treatments that women really need ASAP.
Hopefully beta blockers should not be an issue for your DH, my DH has been on them for a number of years (ever since he had a heart attack four years ago - he's also on a number of other drugs such as statins) and they didn't cause any challenges. If your DH does experience issues then he should speak to his doctor as it may be that an adjustment in dose will iron out any side effects.
I wish you (and everyone here) all the luck in the world

[VenusStarr]

Nice to hear from you @Avocuddles hope all is well.

Thank you @InDreamland they do offer sperm dna frag testing at my clinic and there's a specialist linked to them. Hopefully we won't need to do that.

@Marshmallow123 I hope you're OK. I had a polyp removed too. I'm glad they checked you over. Hopefully these couple of weeks fly for you, it feels nonsensical to be taking birth control when all you want is a baby ❤️

@Mumlili9 this space is for all of us to share the good and the bad ❤️ I'm sorry you're worried and not getting the right care or investigations, it feels really unfair. I'm glad your recovery was quick. Lots of love.

Hope every one is doing OK xx

[fnej01]

Like others I just wanted to wish you ladies all the best. I had a huge amount of support from this thread through my losses, and not sure I would have got through without it. I still read and pray for you all.

@VenusStarr I've always heard great things about Dr Shehata. He was my plan C after Tommy's clinic.

@lillimum9 sorry to hear you are still having such a rough time x

@AliceinBunniland congrats - wishing you a happy and healthy pregnancy x

[VenusStarr]

Hi @fnej01 good to hear from you again and lovely to know you're there rooting for us all ❤️ Hope you're well. I'm really pleased we're under Dr Shehata now, I feel hopeful for the first time in a very long time ☺️ x

[dryoldparty]

@AliceinBunniland tentative congratulations to you and I have absolutely everything crossed that this is your rainbow xx

[VenusStarr]

Morning everyone, just thought I'd pop on and say hi. Hope everyone is OK @kim80 @Kiki275 @Mumlili9 @AliceinBunnyland @Marshmallow123 @nchristie @Jadem83 @ AlexaPlayWhiteNoise
Going a bit stir crazy, the weather here is vile and we're going straight into tier 3 this week, so trying to do all our shopping online - not feeling motivated at all! X

[kim80]

Morning all, its cold 🥶 here but not to bad. We are heading into tier 2 so pretty normal as from Wednesday. The tree is up and started to wrap the presents 🎁 starting to feela little festive but became a little deflated this weekend as af arrived 😩 moving on to the next cycle 🙂.

Hope everyone is well and keeping safe x

[Janefx40]

Hello Ladies,

Can I join? I'm sorry we are all on this thread but hoping for good things for us all.

I'm 43. I have 1DD who is 22 months. She was born from our second IVF cycle. The first was a CP. We lost our baby at 9 weeks in August after a frozen embryo transfer. We have no frozen left and can't conceive naturally. We are going to do a fresh IVF cycle in January but with an awareness that this is just for us to know we tried (a very expensive way of getting peace of mind!). We only have a 2-5% chance of it working due to my age. We know how lucky we are to have our DD so holding onto that. We are also TTC naturally before we start although that is pretty pointless - but no harm in trying eh?!

Sorry about AF @kim80 and all the best to everyone else

Xxx

[Janefx40]

Sorry I should clarify. I miscarried at 9 weeks in August.

[VenusStarr]

Hi @Janefx40 I'm so sorry to see you here ❤️ but welcome. This group has been a lifeline for me since my first loss. How are you getting on since your loss in August?

I'm sorry that af arrived @kim80 I feel like I'm going to be crushed if this cycle doesn't work, got my hopes well and truly up, but I'm trying to enjoy the hope phase xx

[kim80]

@janefx40 so sorry to hear you news. This has been such a supportive group for me they are all lovely.

@venusstarr thanks but I'm kinda getting used to it even though I fully convince myself every tww that I have symptoms af always shows up lol. I didnt feel to bad about this one with Christmas around the corner. I have all my fingers crossed 🤞 for you this month.

[Janefx40]

Thanks @VenusStarr and thank you for your kind words back in August when it was all happening. I know Dr S by reputation - he is well respected and it's great you have an appointment. Just a heads up that people often say he has quite an abrupt manner so it may be worth preparing for that so it doesn't come as a surprise!

[Mumlili9]

@VenusStarr @Avocuddles @fnej01 @InDreamland @Kiki275 @AliceinBunniland @dryoldparty @nchristie @Janefx40 how are you all and same to anyone I missed tagging.

Im apparently 3dpo according to FF but my very expensive Ava bracelet doesn't agree and is telling me that my temp is lower than two days ago. I bought this stupid expensive bracelet to help take the stress out of temping but £165 later I am infact more stressed out than before.

Im not doing Christmas this year im really not in the mood and im working Christmas day night so ill be asleep most of Christmas day. No one will be coming to my house to see decorations anyway.
I feel like all I ever do is come here to moan. Any way here my FF chart so you can see what I mean.

[VenusStarr]

Thank you @Janefx40, I have had my appointment with Dr S and been diagnosed with aggressive nk cells. I'm on his complex plan with hydroxychloroquine and intralipids from ovulation. I'd head about his beside manner and dh said to me as we left, he's a lot nicer than I expected him to be from what you'd told me 😂 this is my first month on the plan and feeling hope for the first time in a while 🤞

Thank you @kim80

@Mumlili9 I'm sorry the ava is adding more stress. I'd be more inclined to trust you manually doing in as the ava is just your skin isn't it? I think your chart looks like you did ovulate. You're the same as me, ovulate on cd10 and when you get a positive opk 🤞 xx

[Kiki275]

Hi everyone, thank you for asking about me 😊.
I've started BBTing and have experienced the pre-ovulation DH is pissing me off rage, so pretty sure I'll be ovulating soon. DH is fully on board as well this cycle, he's taking his vitamins and drinking less (likes a bud when he gets in but cutting this out mon -thurs).
I'm just so fed up of everything. I could have cried when they announced the tiers. We've been in local-lockdowns and high tiers seemingly forever. I'm still waiting for an opportunity where I can go have a night at my friends, drink wine, cry & talk about my boys 😢 without fear of being reported.
I'm also fed up of dieting and fed up of renovations. I need something in the calendar to look forward to. DH is a dairy farmer and not had a day off since August (including weekends), not likely to get one until March either.
Sorry, rant over. I know people have it much worse than me in these current times xx

[Mummyshark2020]

Hey all, looking for a 2nd opinion, ovulation due end of this week but yesterday got a dark line on a ovulation test (pics attached) did I ovulate early? Help wise ones!!

[fnej01]

@lillimum9 how long have been using the Ava? I think they take a couple of cycles to learn. I only used mine for one cycle, and manually tracked as well and think Ava was a couple of days out.

[Janefx40]

@VenusStarr ah I'm glad Dr S was friendlier than you thought and more importantly that you are on a new drug regime. I had both hydroxy and intralipids during my last cycle although in my case it was really just a last ditch attempt to save the pregnancy. I quite liked intralipids - felt full for a good 24 hours!

@Mummyshark2020 I'm pretty useless at opks and ended up using digitalis but yesterday's does look positive to me. I'm sure someone else would know better. What cycle day are you?

@Mumlili9 have never temped but was interested in one of those bracelets - maybe it'll settle down as @fnej01 said.

@Kiki275 I reckon we are all allowed to have a rant even tho there are people worse off. Lockdown is hard and so is TTC.

It's lovely to have joined this thread and looking forward to getting to know you all. Hoping for good things for everyone x

[Mummyshark2020]

I was on cycle day 20, but my cycles are loooong due to pcos and endometriosis. Well, did the bd both days and will do it a couple more (I'm sure dh won't object!) And keep an eye on the sticks.
If anyone else has experience of these let me know!

[Kiki275]

Evening ladies. How are you all? I'm all set for another TWW. Hoping for a little Xmas magic xx

[VenusStarr]

Hi @Kiki275 🤞 for your tww. I think we're all on this thread deserving of some Christmas magic this year. Can't believe where the time is going this month, trying to book things in at work and realising there's only a couple of weeks left!

Hope you're all well @Mumlili9 @Janefx40 @AliceinBunnyland @kim80 @Marshmallow123 ❤️ xx

[Kiki275]

@VenusStarr definitely every single one of the lovely ladies in here deserve some Xmas magic. The little bit of joy & hope that will mean 2020 wasn't a complete write off xx

[Janefx40]

Hi @Kiki275 how are you feeling? I usually find the first bit of the 2WW ok. It gets harder towards the end.

I'm ok. Just come on today. One more cycle before we re-start IVF. I know we can't conceive naturally but you always hope for a miracle. DP was meant to have a sperm fragmentation test but it's taken so long to get an appointment that we may not have results before we're due to start - so I'm not sure if that means we'll have to delay. Lots up in the air anyway.

Hope you're ok @VenusStarr yes to some Christmas magic.

Hope everyone else is ok too

Xxx

[Mumlili9]

Well just to make my year even crapper than it already was I know have coronavirus. How lucky I am 😥