TTC After Pregnancy Loss Thread 22.

[HidCat]

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A thread for all those who have suffered the loss of a much wanted baby. Affectionately know as the penguin huddle.

We'll start with a roll call as there have been so many new members lately and so many success stories that I think we've all lost track.

HidCat
Age 35
TTC #2
DS 5
MC at 11wks in January
Cycle 3 post MC, trying since August 2017

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I'm after advice from you ladies. So I test for LH 3 times a day 10am, 2pm and 5pm. But I'm confused.
10 am positive on ic and cb
2pm super positive ic neg cb
5pm neg ic positive cb

Can anyone shed any light on this I'm lost

@Lilimum4 I think they test for different things. CB doesn't just test for LH but oestrogen as well so the timings could vary slightly due to that. The cheapie will only monitor LH.

@HidCat thanks hun I'll put up the pic so others can see what I mean

I'm lost truely lol

@Lilimum4 I read in the internet that the LH surge can last between 1hr - 1 day so it depends on when you test, sometimes you may miss it snd sometimes it's there a while?! Hope that helps! JKS!!
@sweetpea0318 we tried fertility gel for the first time ever! Got it from boots, it's a passion killer but it's suppose to give the best environment for the sperm whilst travelling to egg!! X

Good luck to all those TTC this month xx

AF arrived yesterday (33 days after MC) but it was expected as needed to wait for BFN test after MC and I think I ovulated before I did that test (based on EWCM). Let's see what happens this month, good luck everyone

Hi everyone

Just trying to catch up again.

@DaisyMay25 @KeefBurtain sorry AF got you. Make sure you treat yourselves 🐧 we will get there eventually but does just suck each cycle when you do all you can and doesn't happen.

@zarala my bbt app - but I use natural cycles- also changes my ovulation date at times seems a bit random & I think is when I've charted a temp that was maybe a bit iffy. Also when cycle length changes it doesn't seem to like it- like this cycle I think will be a 32 day cycle Vs my usual 29days as I ovulated a little later and it's been changing my ovulation date on a daily basis! I'd go off cervical mucus and any positive OPKs. Saying that though app does seem to have eventually got my ovulation date right this cycle.

@Boboelephant sorry to hear about heartless comment yesterday. I had an insensitive comment at work today. I work in medical imaging and had to scan a pregnant lady (for non obstetric stuff) and nurse I was working with asked me in front of patient if I'd been pregnant- she knows I have no children- so she could then go on to say you don't understand what it's like and then go on and on about how "difficult" her pregnancies were 🙄. Know I probs sound bitchy now but it's just like every time women say/do things like this it makes me think well you've obviously nether gone through troubles otherwise you'd surely never do that. Which makes me feel even more abnormal 🙁 Was having such an upbeat day today too!

Am feeling quite reflective today generally- is 12 months today that I got married and 6 months since I first found out about my first loss. So odd. Never would have thought this year would pan out this way. Thought if there were problems it would be more a delay in conceiving but never this! Saying that though am feeling much better overall and handling things better post my holiday now- feeling quite 😎 about stuff - hoping it continues!

@KnitKitty glad you're feeling chill about things too at the moment!

@RedRobin7 sorry to hear about your work "friend". I voice what the others said about mc sometimes showing you who your true friends are - certainly did for me. I do get the whole not knowing what to say thing though I think really good true friends will at least touch base with you intermittently.
I know how you feel about joining boards. I joined an October board and FB group and likewise saw people dropping out and was a reminder to my own previous loss. Also thought I was just about safe and then was one of the last to have to leave 🙁See how you feel about it. You can always drop out if it's creating more anxiety.

@Lilimum4 sorry I have no idea! This is all new to me too!
@GPS76 wow the LH surge can only last an hour!!?! I had no idea!

Thanks @Boboelephant
I didn't realise in the beginning it had to be exact same time- I thought it had to be first thing when you wake up. But I've learnt now.
My confusion from my chart was a big dip 6dpo - convinced myself it was implantation dip - ha!
Anyway I am going to keep temping through July even tho we can't TTC as I'll be away- i hope some kind of pattern emerges! 🤷🏻‍♀️
Good luck this month! I really hope you guys catch

@Jessabean thanks- it's all quite confusing really. But I'll keep charting as I'm finding it all very interesting
Sorry you had to deal with such an insensitive person- I think you're right tho, she probably never had to even consider what we've been through. Eugh
Glad you're feeling chill tho- and happy wedding anniversary !

@Coffeist it's always a relief getting the first AF- at least it feels like our bodies are getting back to normal!

Also saw this article on my Ovia app today which I thought may be of interest re:any other tips!

OK I'm going with this one jks it is then, fx it works this month.

Oooh @Jessabean I'm gonna get on that grapefruit juice! Thanks for sharing

And go for it @Lilimum4 ! JKS !!! Have fun and good luck!!!!

Definately JKS @Lilimum4 good luck!

So if this is AF as I thought, it's very weird. I'm now CD27, 13dpo...I thought AF had arrived yesterday morning (I had several drops of red blood when I went to the loo, and a bit on wiping so assumed it was the start...although it was about half an hour after some morning fun with his nibs!) but then after the initial bit-I had virtually nothing all day. Today has been similar-tiny amount of red/pink, and some brown (inc some browny mucus) spotting. So who knows what the hell is going on.

I did a test yesterday-just an IC (but a 10mlu one) and it was bfn.

So do you reckon this is just AF playing games and settling after MC and she'll hit like a train tomorrow? It's my second period since MC but the first one ran straight on after prolonged bleeding following med mgmt...I just want to get the witch out of the way so I can ovulate again, hopefully whilst we have our weekend away and our posh hotel stay -ideal for JKS!

I've done some checking with dr Google...If it's not AF...well it could poss be implantation but I think 12dpo is pushing it...please ladies stop me clutching at those straws-highly bloomin' unlikely. goes off to google how soon i would get a positive on a test if I implanted 12dpo...

@zarala I know hadn't heard of the grapefruit juice thing before either. Not a fan of it but I'll hold my nose and go for it if it helps!

@Laney79 could go either way to be honest. Definitely not out yet though & could be implantation bleeding. There are different levels of normal hcg and people can implant late so not out yet! Keeping fingers crossed for you it is implantation Vs the witch! Maybe get FRER +- try again in a day or two with FMU if af hasn't arrived? Hate the waiting game bit!

Oh yea and @Lilimum4 definitely get on with the JKS! Good luck for this cycle!

Thanks @Jessabean this whole process has been a nightmare for a control freak like me. I like order and being in charge-I do not cope well when my body goes off piste! Trying not to get hopes up too. Think I'm better assuming it's AF...and if not then that would be amazing, but if it is at least I'm prepared.

@zarala I've not heard of grapefruit either. I hate the stuff though! Think I'll go with the water!!! Although I did feel VERY grown up today -used a pineapple slicing machine (officially an adult now! ) and of course it left the core...I know some people eat the core and say it helps...any ideas how much? And can I freeze the leftovers and have it next month? I'm a pineapple core virgin!

Hi all,

I am really struggling to keep up as this thread moves so fast and I never seem to have enough time to read back through everything.

Where is everyone in their cycles now?

I am feeling totally disheartened by the whole thing at the minute. I have had clockwork 28 day cycles until the miscarriage then it went to 29 and then last month was 26 so not sure what this month will be. I started OPKs on cd10 and was negative but I've not had high since Tuesday, I'm now out of OPKs and my husband has gone away with work anyway so I have no idea! When I have gotten pregnant previously we have dtd on day 14 so I was thinking I must have ovulated then previously. So I'm clueless as to whether or not I have ovulated but we did jks cd10,11 and 13 so we will see but I just don't feel excited about it this month!

Sorry I obviously needed to get that off my chest 🙈 happy Sunday everyone!

@Laney79 I read that you eat 1/5 of the pineapple core each day after ovulation.

@Anyday88 it's always frustrating when our bodies don't seem to be playing ball at the right times. I think I'm 4dpo but may be a couple of days less judging by my temperature shift. Might just split the difference and call it 3 lol.

@Lilimum4 definitely time for JKS! I'm so envious that you are getting those on cd10! We won't be cycle twins for long. I'm cd9 and won't be getting a positive for about 8 days!
@Jessabean sorry you had to go through that. She sounds awful. I'm glad that you are feeling a bit more positive though.

I had a nice moment today. Friday was one year past my first due date so I have been thinking alot about how my angel should be turning one. Today as I was walking a long hand in hand with my DS I saw a balloon flying up in the sky. I focused on it and said a little goodbye message to my angel. Then just as it was almost gone, a little girl saw that it had flown off and said this to her nan. Her nan replied just as I was walking past that 'she has gone to heaven.' It really touched me and I felt like a bit of my heart healed a bit.

@zarala you have a 30 min window. I usually wake up within 20 min time frame I find! Yes I had that last month too and got very excited. Whilst it can be an implantation dip it can also just be the estogen and progesterone fighting for dominance. Defo keep charting. It will help you start to see patterns. Also as FF gets used to your cycles it will be able to predict things better.
@Laney79 I'll keep fingers crossed for you. I'd be testing tomorrow of no AF. Should see a bfp 48 hours after IB. Re: pineapple core HidCat is right. I cut off a thick slice off one pineapple for the 5 days and that is the right portion. I did freeze mine awhile back when I bought a giant one but found it got a bit squishy. Didn't have that nice crispness but is still edible.

@Jessabean does it say when to start drinking the grapefruit juice?

Aww @Boboelephant I love that story!
Really touching! 💕

@Boboelephant how lovely! It couldn't been more fitting really. You going to try and outdo last months marathon this cycle?

This thread moves so quickly, I’ve been lurking but not had much chance to post.

@boboelephant sorry you had to deal with that idiocy. I’ve had similar experiences in the past including one where a woman turned quite nasty once corrected. In a similar vein I wish people didn’t feel it was so acceptable to ask questions like ‘Are you planning on having kids?’ Or ‘Are you going to have another?’ As if it were a simple case of making the decision to do so. You’d never just ask someone if they were planning on having unprotected sex but it’s essentially the same thing isn’t it?!

@RedRobin7 congratulations on your bfp, tell your friend when you feel ready. I’m sure she’ll understand. Maybe let her know in advance of your meeting if you think it will be easier on her to process.

@sweetpea0318 @Jessabean I’ve never heard of the grapefruit thing but might give it ago. I hadn’t heard about the cough syrup thing either but I was chugging it just before DS1 was conceived and possibly just after as I had a terrible cough that month so maybe there is something to it.

@zarala @laney79 fingers crossed for you all you’re not out until AF shows.

@lilimum4 I got a positive on ic opk today too! (CD17, I think I usually ovulate around CD18 so not unusual for me.) Want to jks but promised DH we’d stick to every other day this month and he complained he was tired earlier when I suggested an extra session today. We dtd at about 10.30 last night and I’ll try my luck in the morning. Hopefully it will be enough. I have a pineapple ready and waiting, never cut one up before though, hope I don’t lose any fingers!

Just a quick question about evening primrose oil do you stop it once you ovulate?

@Boboelephant what a lovely thing to happen. As for this early opk thing its only been since my last mc. Before this I had 36 day cycles. Mine seem to be 25 to 26 now not sure if that's good or bad

@zarala and @DaisyMay25 thankyou. I was so glad my little man was there too. ❤
@DaisyMay25 haha no! Not trying to beat 12. Going to do SMEP this month instead. Fingers crossed!!

Gosh, I'm losing track of this thread already!

@Jessabean I am shocked at your colleague's behaviour, totally unfair to put you in that position, she should have known better.

@Laney79 It is so frustrating when your body does not do what you want it to! Throughout this whole pregnancy/miscarriage/post miscarriage experience my body has gone utterly bananas so I totally get where you're coming from!

@Anyday88 I could never get bloody OPKs to work, gave up in the end! Sounds like you're definitely in with a chance this month if you DTD on day 13 and anticipate a 26-29 day cycle!

@Boboelephant Glad you feel you're healing.