TTC after miscarriage - lucky thread number 3

[Brenna24]

Still hopeing for 3x3 BFPs for this month. Hopefully thread 3 will do that.

Sorry to hear Loki and ak79. Hopefully things will turn out ok for you both. Big hugs all around.

I'm in the fertile window and we have dtd lots. Been really into it this month, first month since the mc. Not doing OPKs or anything, just tracking period and keeping a rough eye on when fertile window is. Started the 5:2 diet on Monday and that's been a great distraction. Obv if I fall pregnant I'll stop straight away. Amazing how de bloated I felt on my first fast day. Felt a big difference and my stomach already seems to have shrunk.

AKP that is so strange. When is your af due? I'm getting period pains now so I'm resigned to af coming. I'm not going to test again until AF is late but, hopefully, it will be right on time so we can start again. Hope you get a clear answer soon. X

Well done Cheeky, keep going until your BFP. That diet works a treat.

Loki hard to say when AF due because of the messy miscarriage we had, I've only had one period since it all happened. However, assuming everything was normal I would be due today. I've had period cramps for the last two days and even cramping down my thighs, which is what I get every month with AF.

AKP through both of my previous pregnancies I had af symptoms but then no af. With my dd I had them every month until about 4 months. With my mc I didn't notice it as much after the first month. I really hope your line gets darker. My cycle has been very different since the mc. I'm pretty sure that my body needs a bit more time to sort itself out. A couple of years ago a co-worker had a chemical pregnancy and one of the other women said that it was her body 'practising' and that the next month would be the charm. I remember feeling quite narked at her comments, thinking her very insensitive. Now Im finding myself really hoping there was some truth in what she said. If I were you I'd retest the day after tomorrow. It could be that the BFN was due to lack of hormone in your urine because it's early days. I'm going to test again on Tuesday if AF doesn't show.

Mrs I really hope that af stays away for you. Hopefully the clomid will work if you have a higher dose. Thinking of you

Hi all, been reading and running for a few days, sorry it's so uncertain for you Loki, Jo, Lucky. Keeping fx for you Flourishing, Jo. Am currently experiencing that fabulous timing of potentially entering fertile window whilst spending the Easter weekend at in-laws, sharing room (and ultimately bed) with our 3 year old....though temps a bit unpredictable and all over the place post mc so who knows. Not sure there's any point stressing over it then, but after deciding we'll just dtd every other day after the bleeding stopped till I get a temp rise or AF, this is a frustrating halt in proceedings! Time to eat chocolate and go on mn then.

Thanks flourishing! Have you tried it before? If so, can I ask if you have had success?

Mrsunsure. I'm new to it also but I originally heard of it on the bbc horizon programme. Never thought about it again but recently been thinking I should maybe get rid of a bit of extra weight. I used to be 8-8.5 stone before I had major surgery a few years ago and now I'm 9.5-10. Bmi is 25 so creeping into overweight. I tried eating healthy and sticking to 1200 calories but I didn't lose a pound and if I did I couldnt keep it off.

I've joined the 5:2 threads, they are really good. Only done 2 fast days so far as this is my first week and I'm planning to fast Monday and Thursday's. You can eat 500 calories on fast days so I chose to have ultrameal shakes (you can buy on Amazon - brand is Nutri) as I know they have everything you need in them. Each one is 150 calories so you can quite happily have 3. Most people manage perfectly fine with 500 calories on fast days but the challenge comes when keeping to total daily expense expenditure (TDEE) calories on non fast days. You can pretty much eat anything as long as you have TDEE calories or less. It's a mental thing as it's quite easy to subconsciously eat back what you think you have missed out on , but I managed totally fine this week. The fast days were great and I felt so debloated and clear skin etc. The non fast days - I've felt bloated and I realised this is how I always feel so it's made me eat more mindfully and I feel like my stomach has shrunk already or maybe it's mental attitude but I don't feel like emotionally eating now. Hope that makes sense. I think I've found the diet for me, even if I don't lose a pound I feel better for it, even though it's early days. The threads suggest you weigh yourself the morning after the 2nd fast day in the week and I did, it was an absolute bonus that the scales moved and I seem to have lost 3-4lb already. I do think some of this will be water as I've not been drinking as much as I normally do but it was very encouraging. DH commented my face looks thinner, I think I look less 'puffy' if you know what I mean. I've been told in the past that I have inflammation in my body and I think food/overeating definitely aggravates it.

We haven't been as long as you yet mrs but that is very much how I feel. When I met DH we were working together and lived close together. We got talking at a work lunch and he mentioned he had seen me out running and asked if I wanted to go out for a run with him. We spent a few weeks running in our local park and he would tell me all about his family in Italy, descriptions of christmas etc. It was obvious how much he loved being in the heart of the family and how much he missed them and wanted a family of his own. I did give him the choice when we started seeing each other, knowing that I am a bit older, to find someone younger than me. He said no, he really wanted a family with me. Now I feel like I have failed him. 10 months after we got married and we have got nowhere. Even worse we have lost one and now can't seem to get pregnant again. I feel like I should have run away the second we got close. Please don't give up yet though. If you aren't in the race you can't win. I am trying to tell myself that having to try all the harder to get anywhere means we will appreciate it all the more.

I hope it isn't a chemical for you AKP. I briefly got excited and though we were going to be at 8.

Morning all and happy Easter
10dpo now and have cramps again! It's so frustrating. I'm not sure if af is coming early or not, had no spotting or anything just have these awful cramps.

Mrs so sorry you feel the way you do but remember it is only early days, you may just need a higher dose of clomid. Keep going hun, I know it's been a long journey for you and you really deserve a break. Be kind to yourself.

Akp & Loki I'm really hoping for the best for both of you.

This 5:2 diet sounds interesting, I might give it a go myself. I feel bloated all the time even if it just helps that and I don't lose any weight it would be worth it.

Hope you all have s good day

Hope you feel better mrsunsure and Brenna. I can understand and relate to where you are both coming from. I find it so hard as well that this area of our lives isn't openly discussed. You can't even tell people not so close to you that you are having a bad day. Have either of you tried acupuncture? I've heard great stuff about it helping regulate the cycle to what it should be. I'm going to make an appt this week that I've got time off work but I've also got the hairdressers (hair is an absolute mess) dentist and cupping. I've had cupping before and I thought after the miscarriage it could act like a little detox for my blood.

Happy Easter ladies and please don't lose faith. It took me 10 months last time even though I have two children already. Then this time it was Dec miscarriage
Late Jan first AF after Mc. Feb AF and BFP this month March. The only thing I did different is having a miscarriage and monthly accupunture.

So there maybe something in it, or it's the miscarriage that's done it..

Loki I'm very impatient so did my last preg test today and the f'ing thing flooded, so there wasn't even a control line showing!

I really hope all this comes good for us. All this uncertainty is very frustrating. Thinking of you Loki and hope you're ok xxx

Oh no! I hope it does too. I keep peeing on opks and hoping the faint line means something. It doesn't, I'm being ridiculous but I just feel like I want to do something.

Thinking of you mrs unsure and brenna. I can't claim to have been trying as long as either of you, but I can empathise with feeling sad and frustrated that it's taking longer than I hoped. What I find hard is that getting and staying pregnant isn't something that can be guaranteed with any amount of motivation, effort, endurance, logic, planning, following rules and/or knowledge because my life experience so far has taught me most things can. Like the EPU nurse said to me yesterday "Mother Nature doesn't do Science, she does what she thinks is best". I also find not having an answer to why I've lost two pregnancies within 5 months of each other hard. Even if I buy into the idea of it twice being down to random genetic factors, logically that means either my eggs or DH's sperm need a health boost. Which brings me to a dead end in what further action I can take without further investigations and help into cause, which I can't have until 3 MC (think you asked if I'd had blood tests Mrs Unsure I haven't because I've been told I don't get them until 3 MC). DH can't tolerate the Pregnacare male fertility vitamins due to impact on an autoimmune health condition, and it's not worth persevering with that on the off chance his swimmers need a hand if it risks his health when his condition has taken us years to stabilise. On the plus side of that, working that out did give me perspective in that DH and our relationship is here and still going strong and we are both healthy just now, and if it doesn't work out for us (which obv I hope very much it will), at least we will still have that.

Flourishing are you OK now after your flight? It can take time for your body to settle back to normal after a flight even if you're not pg. If the cramps settled I'd take that as a good sign?

Amy I'll look into that about seeds, thanks for the tip.

Loki sounds like you're feeling positive about your possible chemical, the idea of the body practising is a comforting thought for me - like you say, hopefully next month for those of us in for another go!

Sorry to hear everyone is having such a rough time just now.

Well after getting 3 faint BFP's last week I've been bleeding all weekend so guessing that it was probably a chemical. Its not ideal as im away for the weekend without DH but not much i can do about it now. Feeling a bit gutted as although we had tried not to get excited, the hope had started bubbling up inside and I'd begun to think there might have been a baby this year after all but no such luck. It all feels a bit like a cruel joke.

Sorry, waiting. I think I've had a chemical too - feeling decidedly af-y today. Cramping so I think it's on its way. I keep looking at the positive test and I can't quite get my head around the subsequent BFNS. It look just like the faint positives I had with dd and my mc'd baby. It's not fair at all.

Mrsunsure - join us on the 5:2 thread

Thread number 62: "If God wanted me to touch my toes, she’d have put chocolate on the floor ?” There’s a more scientific approach to nutrition & fitness in our friendly support group.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/fasting_diet/2593674-5-2-Thread-number-62-If-God-wanted-me-to-touch-my-toes-she-d-have-put-chocolate-on-the-floor-There-s-a-more-scientific-approach-to-nutrition-fitness-in-our-friendly-support-group

Hello Lucky, thank you for checking, yes the cramps are all gone now, I also cracked and retested with a clear blue digital with weeks estimator and it was spot on. I know that doesn't mean much but it's given me some comfort.

I feel really guilty though because everyone is having a hard time on thus thread. Funny you mention Mother Nature and science. The hardest for me was when I had to wait two weeks between scans prior to Them confirming miscarriage. The nurse at EPU said to me, this is the one thing I won't be able to control. Perhaps not trying too hard is the best way. I don't know what to say ladies but there is more than one way of being a mother. We could start by being less harsh on our selves.

Glad things seem ok for you Flourishing. I hope it stays that way.