'TTC after a miscarriage - new thread'

[Janus]

Well tried to add my bit to old thread and we have reached 1000 posts again!!
Chocolatepeanut, am so sorry for what you are going through, although you sound as if you are handling it well so far. Hope things aren't too bad for you in the coming days.
Rubles, sorry if AF does arrive, bloody bitch! My blood tests will be next week. DP sperm test threw up 'abnormal sperm' and he needs to go and discuss with the GP later this week although she did say it wasn't too much to worry about. Been meaning to start a new thread on this but haven't got around to it.
I'm looking for a yoga class to try and help me relax! Do think this whole TTC is stressing me out so much, I'm so conscious of age gaps, both our ages working against us, even worrying about if we do conceive in next couple of months as worked out it would be a July or August baby (my oldest is July born and is struggling bit with school etc). Part of me thinks it may do us all some good if I just stop ttc for a couple of months, then the other half panics about an even bigger gap, etc!!
How on earth do you all manage to relax about all this stuff??

Hello, I waited til this morning to do a test (day 33) BFN as expected but still no sign of AF. I was better than I thought I'd be when got the result but now I feel terrible. I feel so sad about the baby I lost and like I shouldn't be here trying to start all over again I should be 21 weeks pregnant.
Anyway just wish af would arrive so I know where I stand and can start trying again.

HI all - may I join in ? I had a m/c in July and have been ttc ever since !

I have a dd (2.1) who we conceived pretty quickly and the m/c we conceived first time so am feeling v. v. despondant. On CD1 of cycle 7.

Whilst my cycles seem to be 'back to normal' (anything between 28 -33 days) have had lots of weird Pre-menstrual symptoms ever since m/c and really really dry itchy skin most of the time so think my hormones might be up the creak still. Am thinking of going to doctors this month although am put off somewaht by Minx's experience.

I would jsut like them to do some blood tests to check which isn't too much to ask is it ??

Anyway, good luck everyone.

Hello Wheelybug, this was my 1st month ttc after MC well now into 2nd as AF just arrived (it took 3 months with baby I just lost). I've been having weird Pre-menstrual symptoms as well this month never used to have any. I'm going to see the doctor next week because I feel so weak and lightheaded all the time (don't think my body has recovered from M/C yet) but was going to ask about my mad hormones as well.
Hope all goes well for you.

Thanks for the welcome EleRose. Its nice to know I'm not the only one (although thats no comfort to you !!).

Can I join you? I've just found out today that I've lost my baby It was a complete miscarriage confirmed by scan. It started on Thurs and lasted until Tues but I haven't had a bleed since then. DH and I want to try again asap.

That sounds so insensitive but I didn't mean it that way, we will mourn the loss of our precious and much wanted baby but I think we'll heal faster if we get pg again soon. We'd been trying for 8 months for this one and it was our first baby.

Anyone have any tips on how to recover physically or how to fall again quickly (apart from luck)?

Looking forward to getting to know you all . I'm normally a happy and positive person, just not today sorry!

HI MrsMc, So Sorry to hear your news. You will find lots of support on here. I think physical recovery is often the easier part of a MC - the emotional side can be a bit of a rollercoaster. Make sure you get plenty of TLC and just go with the flow of whatever emotions hit you. I know I certainly went through a range of feelings.

You can try again straight away and there are women who catch straight away with no period in between this happened to a friend of mine who like yourself had been trying fro a similar time, fell pregnant unfortunately miscarried but was pregnant again 6 weeks later and is now approx 25weeks I think. Good luck will be thinking of you.

sorry you're here MrsMcJ - I had seen a couple of your other threads. I think if you've finished bleeding and it has been confirmed as complete you're pretty much on your way to having recovered physically.

We felt the same with ttc straightaway. We didn't really 'go for it' between m/c and first period although we didn't take precautions either. I kind of felt what will be, will be. Unforetunately I'm having difficulty adopting that attitude now 7 months down the line. But, a lot of people conceive v quickly again after m/c.

Don't worry its not insensitive to think you want to start straightawaym its natural...

Take care of yourself it is such an emotional time and good luck.

Hi MrsMcJnr... I just missed you on Temp buddies, so thought I would post to you on here... Just want you to know we are all here for you...I have copied my message:

MrsMcJnr - I've just logged on...So so sorry to hear your news. I agree with Ready and have said it many a times myself...why is this world so cruel? I am so gutted for you..my heart sunk when I read your message...
We are all here for you and many of us understand what you are going through..You have my email address and any time you want to rant and rave and shout be my guest and send me an email! Sending you a massive massive {{HUG}} and lots of kisses and love...

You asked about TTC afterwards, for me and husband we just waited until after our consultant said there was no physical reason why not and we started. It is hard though getting back on the 'horse'...as you feel resentful of the time you have already spent trying to conceive and what you have lost,,, but you just carry on as the desire to have another baby is so strong. I am sure this is different for some people. I know some people decide to have quite a big break and others totally put it on a back burner for a while to consider if they want to continue... I suppose it is a personal choice.

Evening ladies. Hope everyone is well. I have a couple of suggestions to make re. ttc after m/c, although I have not been successful so they may or may not make a difference.
Firstly, I am seeing an acupuncturist who recommended I take a liquid iron supplement called Floradix to 'build myslef up a bit' after recent m/c and a hectic/traumatic few years. Don't know if this will help at all but I don't fell it can hurt to try! If anyone else wants to give it a go, I got mine at Holland & Barrett.
Also, something else I've been debating spreading the word about/reiterating is my recent discovery about Bacterial Vaginosis. This is an infection similar to thrush in that it is caused by bacterial imbalances in the vagina/being stressed/rundown, etc. I don't think the symptoms are as obvious as thrush (mine were period bouts of very watery discharge and an unusual odour. Literature says a fishy odour, but I don't really think mine was fishy!!). Anyway, found out last week I had it and the doctor told me that it has been connected with m/c & prem babies. It is easily treatable with antibiotics. So if anyone out there is suspicious of any odd goings-on in their pants then get it checked out cos it could make a difference in the future.... Oh, and there seem to be links with BV and the coil, so be extra vigilent if you had a coil removed to ttc.

Should have said 'periodic', not period.
And please excuse other smelling pistakes too!!

Thanks for the advice.
By the way, this lunchtime ran to the ladies to puke my guts up.... last time I was pregnant, m/s kicked in a week or so before my period was due. And it's CD21 today... fingers crossed please!

Fingers crossed, legs crossed, toes crossed....it's all crossed for you Catbaby!

Catbaby- sounds like a positive sign to me. double crossed here too for BFP.

Mrs Mc- How you going today? I'm so sorry it turned out like this. You sound as positive as usual, I hope you are, and I hope you are back pg again soon. If your anything like me, It took me a while (7 months TTC) first time and have got quicker and quicker, although technically took me 2 years to hold a baby, but in the end it doesn't matter now.

Wheelybug - Hi and welcome, sorry for your frustration, it's hard waiting and longing for that BFP. Hope your at the other side of it soon too.

I have some advice for TTC (you may have heard it all before though) - I recommend taking pregnancy vitamins for you and multivitamins with zinc for dh/dp's. I didn't use to believe in these but think pg and m/c can deplete our bodies and we probably need all the help we can get. I found exercise good too, made my body feel younger and stronger, and i think got my hormones going. The other thing was after m/c's my cycle changed, i use to ovulate day 14 but it moved to day 17/18 so keep at it a little later just in case, we were worn out by then and were missing our chance

I've probably given all the advice i have in my last two posts, so I may leave my lovely friends and new ladies for a bit now, this thread went quiet for a bit and I felt like I was intruding, don't know why think I'm having silly issues right now iykwim.

Just don't want to be an old ranter

sending you all lots of luck

MrsMcJnr I'm so sorry this has happend to you, I can't offer any advice but I am in the same position and am desperate to get pg again as soon as possible.
Catbabymummy I so hope you get a BFP soon.
I was told at the hospital you are very fertile after MC does anyone know how long this is supposed to last?

Uki can I ask did your cycles get longer as well or just your ov date changed. I've just had fist full cycle after mc and it was longer than normal though I suppose my hormones might just be still all over the place.

Hi all

fingers crossed catbaby - sounds a positive sign !

Thanks for all the advice Uki. I have been taken just folic acid for a while but this is running out so may go on to a pregnancy vitamin.... can't hurt ! Also trying Evening primrose oil this month (just until ov). Might get some multivitamins for DH too - he oculd do with them anyway as he works long hours and is always tired.

How are you feeling today MrsMCJ ?

MUst admit to feeling quite wobbly. It would have been my due date this week coming. I didn't think it was going to feel quite so bad but I think thats because I (arrogantly) expected to be pregnant by now. Ho hum. Mind you dd is benefitting from being spoilt left right and centre.

On a positive note, its a sunny day today - spring has certainly sprung .

Hi Sideways, thanks for the tips. How are you doing? I?ve been keeping a pregnancy diary of how I?ve felt from my BFP onwards, it?ll make sad reading now but I think it?s worth carrying on writing in it to exercise how I feel until I feel less raw. Sometimes it just helps to express it, doesn?t it? In a morbid way, I guess it will be interesting to see what my body does now. I logged back into my Ovusoft software and noted that today is CD72 for me and I am 55dpo, my temp is back down to 36.0 (my norm pre OV) so we?ll see what happens. Can?t work out how to put the miscarriage into the software though, can?t handle seeing ?Congratulations! You are pregnant!? everyday Anyone know what to do?

Hello Wheelybug ? nice to meet you I hope you fall again soon, why is nature so cruel sometimes?! I totally understand why you feel the way you do, I?m sure we all hope and pray we are pregnant again by the EDD of the baby we lost as there is no doubt that that will certainly make it easier. I?m so sorry hon . I took all sorts of things when I was TTC before ? grapefruit juice, royal jelly, B6, Evening Primrose Oil plus my Pregnacare I used OPKs, a saliva monitor and pre seed and I temped and charted. Can?t decide just how much to do now but took my temp this am and had my EPO, Vit C & Zinc as well as my Pregnacare today ? back on the horse as they say! It?s FREEZING here!

Rahrah ? hello there! Sorry you are having to chase me about thank you for your lovely post, it really means a lot.

Feedmenow, hello, I know we?ve met before, sorry to see you here A few people have told me about Floradix too and said that it is a really good idea after losing a lot of blood. I think I?ll get some and take it for a couple of weeks. I?ve also heard that zinc levels are really important and get depleted after a miscarriage. Interesting about the BV, didn?t know about that.

Catbabymummy ? hello, all fingers crossed that sounds exciting!

Hey Uki thanks for posting for me. I?m ok, DH and I had a car boot sale scheduled for today so we did it anyway (made £100 ? it was just a small one so we were pleased) it took our minds off things and we had fun too . I think TTC will be easier this time than last as DH is so much more committed now than he was before (and feels awful about the half hearted attempts he put in for some of those months when we were trying before). I know that this in itself will mean I am much less stressed because we?ll be doing all we can. Thanks for the tips, we both take the multi vits already and I agree, it may well help. The plan is to lose some weight and get fit and focus on that a bit more than TTC and see what happens. It?s lovely to hear from you so please don?t stop posting. How are you feeling now anyway? I?ve also been meaning to say to you for a while that I totally get it now about cutting down/giving up the booze whilst TTC, sorry I did not understand the importance before ? hindsight hey?. Re OV, I already OV cd16-18 don?t tell me it?ll now be even later!

Hello Elerose, nice to meet you and sorry to hear what you are going through I hope you fall soon .

Still felt pukey again, thought I was going to vomit in the car yesterday, whilst driving to Asda! Still too early to test! Thanks for all your best wishes

Hi Again all.
I guess i better answer my questions makes me feel useful

elerose- in answer to your question, My first cycle after m/c was longer then had shorter then longer, 37, 29, 31. I'm normally 28. Other m/c were 42 days first then 35 then 28 every month. I do not temp but from cm i noticed it seemed to take longer to ov, and got pg straight away when tried later in cycle.

Mrs mc- WoW a 100 pounds fantastic, I hope you treat yourself to something nice or needed.
I can't even remember saying much about limiting drinking, but i guess i did. I could of murdered a glass of wine the other night after rough day. I don't even have a sip while pg, so i guess i'm even more strict now.
Your plan of action sounds good, dh sounds like a sweety. I'm sure you'll get pg easier this time.
Can you just restart your ov. software or something, as they will probably be out for a bit.

Your diary sounds like a good idea, i bottled up alot and had some major tanty's with poor dh.
I'm doing fine thanks, starting to relax and not worry so much, which is good. but still quite hormonal i think pg women can become a bit self- centred and sensitive so that's why i thought i should stop posting.

So when will you be testing officialy cat?????

Helloeveryone, can i join on plesae? I'm new to this site, just posted on the April thread yesterday, after lurking for a awhile.I di scovered the site when loking for"answers" after a miscarriage I lost my baby in the 12th week in December and was later told it was possibly a partial molar pregnancy. I'm currently undergoing monitoring for 6 months, and am not supposed to ttc until after that is over, but just can't wait any longer! All my tests are comong back as clear at the moment, so I figure theres not much to lose and everything to gain. Not sure the consultant would agree though!!Anyway, I'm sure I'm in good company of people who understand how hard it is afterwards!!
We've not been very careful about preventing conception after the mc but this is the 2nd month i've really put the effort in iykwim, back to grapefruit juice and legs in the air
good luck to all on here, heres to positive thinking and lots of support

Minx said that you won't see a result until CD24 at the earliest, so I will wait until then (that's tomorrow!!).

BFN! But still 10 tests left...

kensgirl- Sorry to hear about your miscarriage. You were very unlucky to have a molar pregnancy- I don't think they're too common... I think there is a chance that molar pregnancies can turn nasty, isn't there? Fast-dividing tissue and all that. They want to be absolutely certain they got it all out at the erpc before "allowing" you to conceive again. That said, I can well understand why you might want to disregard that advice... I'm just not certain I'd rush into it if I were you. It might be useful to spend the next few months closely charting your cycle, so that when you are given the all-clear, you're ahead already, knowing when you ovulate, cycle length etc, as these can all change after a miscarriage. Good luck. You will certainly find plenty of advice on here.

hi Duchesse
thanks for your message. yes, your right , as molar pregnancies are really rare in this part of the worls, only around 0.25% i believe, so i'm still completely numb that this has happenend. It was devaststing to know we had lost the baby, but then to be hit with this was almost too much. I had a suspected partial molar preg, but it couldn't be confirmed, so was referred to Sheffield. from what i understnd there is a chance that, if after the ERPC, there are any cells remaining it can turn into something resembling a cancer, or if you are realy unlucky, a cancer itself. In either case it is then treated with chemo. {shock} however, it is less common in a partial mole as opposed to complete mole, and my blood and urine samples had returned to normal within a certain time span (8 weeks i think)which is a good sign, and its now been about 14 weeks since the ERPC, with everything looking normal. Sheffield tells me they only see 5% of referred patients so the odds are in my favour, and that if i was to become preganant that i would not have to terminate the preg.I'm currently having weekly urine tests, and sheffield have been fantastic, really on the ball. We've thought about it long and hard and i;ve talked it through with my mum and sister, and deccided that because it was only suspected that i would try. It would have been my first baby and i'm nearly 32, and getting scared!! sometimes i feel fine about it, and concentrate on the fact that they say i should have a normal pregnancy in the future, and other times feel convinced that everything is doomed ( dramatic I know...) but have very mixed emotions. My cycle since has been a bit up and down, with 25, 28 24 days between. It may even take me the extra months to conceive, and take me to the time limit anyway. on the month i had the bfp it was the first month we had tried ttc. Complicated or what? I'm really pleased i found mn as its obvious i need some support, as my lovely dh and everone i know had not heard of phmp , making me feel very freakish!! Its a relief that someone else knows of it!

what is your history, Duchesse? apologies if its something i should have seen, already. i just wish luck and happinesss to all here the pain of mc is indecipherable until you have experienced it.

Mrs mcjnr - -i'm also a mrs mc jnr!!

Heres to a happy big bellied future

Phew! That seems a ramble, hope i havn't bored everyone! Not normally a negative person though, dont want to scare everyone away {hmm}