Roll up! Roll up! Mount those uni cycles and shake those pom poms. The Elderberry Pavlovas are drumming away in the hope of a Christmas clusterdiff (Thread 24).

[happylass]

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

The roll of honour:

Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 unsuccessful cycle of ICSI September '14. Starting cycle 2 in January.
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014
Serenity 34 TTC Jan 2013, unexplained infertility, DH has textbook super sperm, 3 rounds unsuccessful clomid, 1 ICSI June 14 with complete fertilisation failure, next ICSI Nov 14.
Jelliebabe - 40, Threw the pills away 8 years ago. Unexplained but have a very low AMH, 1st IVF with clinic in Prague, 2 embryo's, chemical pregnancy. 2nd IVF in London branch of clinic - 1 embryo, BFN. Hoping to go back to Prague for Donor eggs in January
nolly, 32, TTC since Sep 2012, unexplained. 6 months clomid did sod all, next appointment 29th Oct, hoping to start private round ivd soon.
Pixie, 33, TTC June 12, DH has zero sperm count but managed to extract some under surgery, start downregging in a week, long protocol, ICSI Nov
Tigerdog 34, ttc 21 months. Unexplained after all tests and currently on waiting list for IVF.
Beaky 34 ttc since aug 2012. Unexplained with recurring cysts and adenomyosis. 1 failed IUI, IVF appointment in November and hoping to start first cycle in January.
Bushy 36, ttc since dec 2011, low amh, ovarian reserve, dh sperm had low count & motility but improved to 'normal' standard, IVF/Icsi in May bfp, then later missed miscarriage at 12 week scan. 2nd Ivf imminent but not sure if dates will work over Christmas.
HampshireBlues 36 TTC since August 2011, unexplained. 1st cycle of IVF chemical. Had a break over the summer. Cycle 2 planned for November
WildflowerMarmalade , 40, TTC 3 years, unexplained, underactive thyroid + immune issues. Sept IUI - BFN. Due to start IVF in Jan
lumen, 35, ttc since Nov 11 without a sniff of a bfp, unexplained, had only nhs funded IVF summer 2014, no implantation, trying self-funded IVF Nov 14, currently mid cycle
AnnieHoo 41, ttc July 2012. Unexplained. MMC Nov 2012, MMC May 2014. IVF Oct 2014 BFN. Waiting for FET.
Trill 41, TTC since March 2013. Endo with one completely blocked tube and one kinked with adhesions. Currently stimming.

And Gil's handy guide to the current IVFers....

Smidge - PUPO on 3 Nov
Pip - ET on 5 Nov
Lumen -EC on 5 Nov
Trill - day 5 of stims
Pixie - week of DR done
Seren - stimming yet?
Gillster- start DR on 4 Nov
Kuma - you starting soon???

Morning Berries

beaky a Christmas market sounds lovely, enjoy! Sorry about your spotting, hope it goes away. Thanks for the pompom shaking!

jellie (always gets changed to Nellie lol!) Yay for a donor! Hope it all goes smoothly.

pixie good luck with your trigger tonight and for EC on Monday. Have they called with a time yet?

Thinking of you lumen

I'm thinking of saving my EMU on test day and just waiting til I get home to actually do the test. What do you berries think?

lumen so sorry, it's really unfair

So much fab news today
pixie How are you feeling? Good luck with the trigger.

I think I'm out again. Woke up this morning with the unmistakable dull ache and weird pinching nerve in my groin that only ever means one thing. Don't think I'll be needing to test come Thursday

Will it work if it sits there all day Trill?
I am seriously thinking of getting some internet cheapies so I can continue my daily testing habit.

It'll work if it sits there all day

Pip I carried on testing for ages! Think it's quite common BUT remember lines get darker and lighter randomly so don't worry if it seems lighter

Well I've only got two tests left and they are a year out of date so I might as well use them.

Spare I'm sure one of the other berries thought that but wasn't, don't loose hope!

Warning for tmi berries, but the spotting has turned much more like AF in that's is quite heavy and dark brownie/red. I'd only be about 8dpo (we didn't try this month) so I have no idea what's going on so confusing!

pip I say test away! I'd love to see a positive test! I've only ever bought internet cheapies. I've got a different one from the clinic to try this time.

Aww spare I hope you're not out! I've felt like I'm going to get AF since I had EC. Cramps aren't always a bad sign, the progesterone also gives you abdominal cramps. Hang in there!

The problem is Trill getting them delivered. DH is bound to ask what they are and I wouldn't want to admit POAS every day!

Spare I do hope they're not af cramps. Smidge was right with hers but don't give up hope yet. You're still pupo.
Pip sounds to me like you're a ok as addict but don't blame you and I'm sure Mr Pip wouldn't either?
Beaky I have randomly had a couple of short cycles myself, sometimes after a long cycle where I obsessed over af turning up. Try not to worry but definitely worth mentioning it Wed. How was the christmas market?
I'm all booked in for EC Mon morning. Had lovely bunch of flowers delivered this morning from Mr P. I cried.

Buggerration my post didn't post! Will do again tomoz... Night all!

Pixie! Brownie points for dh! Cuuuuuute

spare I think symptoms can mean anything at this stage but fingers crossed it isn't af. trill also fingers crossed for you. The wait must feel so long, there's just no escape from your body either so it's impossible to switch off from it all.

Hope you had a lovely day with your friends at the Christmas market beaky!

jellie that is all very exciting!

Aw pixie that's very lovely of Mr P! Good luck with the trigger shot!

Hope everyone else is doing ok!

Quiet day in the tiger household but quite a few jobs done around the house. Having a couple of quiet weekends, avoiding
booze and not spending any money in preparation for a busy and sociable December!

Awww pixie sweet of your hubby to send you flowers

How you feeling now spare?

Gawd. Think I've hit the new low with this cough then something else happens that makes me revise that statement....

Oh no jellie! What's happened?

Was it as a result of the cough Jellie?

Jellie! ...what's going on? You ok?

Hope you are ok Jellie. More Kegel's perhaps?

Trillium the pee will keep for testing, you can keep it in the fridge to slow down the degrading of the relevant hormones. But it needs to be at room temperature again when you dip the stick. I was thinking of doing this one time, fir the same reason as you, but then didn't and just waited an extra day.

Oh, and, Spare twinges can be anything at this point, as Tiger says. Hang on in there.

Hope you are doing ok spare and trill, thinking of you both.

Best of luck tomorrow pixie, let us know how you get on (and your dh sounds like a keeper!)

pip order the internet cheapies then when they are delivered tell your dh they are something for him for Christmas.

Hi to all the other berries. I'm doing ok thanks. Had a good cry on Friday morning but now AF has turned up so I feel this episode is almost over and I can move on. We have a review meeting at the FC in two weeks so will see what they say. Am also going to try and get an appointment back at the fertility doctor who referred us for IVF, I only had bloods and a scan done before being put forward for my first cycle as I was so close to the age cutoff for nhs funding, I want to know if there is anything else they can do on the nhs to help investigate our 'unexplained infertility'. I will let you know how I get on with both of those things. Other than that we have decided to forget about all things ttc, to enjoy Christmas then get ourselves fit and healthy and give my body a chance to recover from all the treatment this year. If we end up doing another IVF cycle I am going to look at taking a months unpaid leave so I can give it my all and not be stressed out by work.

Finished one if my quilts yesterday tiger, have almost finished the second and just about to get up and do the third. Am now seeing my parents next week and am going to exchange Christmas gifts so have a deadline!

Happy Sunday berries x

Spare, Tril do we really have to wait until the 27th for you two to test? That's ages.
Pixie good luck for tomorrow. Please ask any questions.

Lumen. Well done for taking some time off from ttcing. I did the same after cycle 2. I just walked away from all of it for about 3 months. It can be so all consuming.
What tests have you had so far? Do you get anymore NHS cycles?

lumen You are so brave and pragmatic about things. Like the sound of your Christmas plan.

pixie Good luck tomorrow! Hope you aren't feeling too uncomfortable!
Pip the Internet cheapies from ebay come in plain packaging - I got mine delivered to work and didn't want any clue as to what was inside!

trill Have you decided what to do about testing? Testing berry experts, is there any point at all in testing at a different point in the day? Like afternoon if you hold off on toilet trips for a few hours? Or does it definitely need to be morning?
Hello everyone else
Hope you are having nice weekends

Problem is that I work with DH and he'll see them! Might just get some and lie. He is very very lovely but I think he would worry if he thought I was testing every day.

Hey! Sorry if I worried you, was feeling super sorry for myself. Had just coughed until I was sick... Twice.... lovely. Going to try and get back to the doctor tomorrow.

Pixie, the physical process of donor abroad is exactly the same, just have to get my lining ready, but no the law is different. The child is not able to get any information (neither are we) apart from a few facts that we already know. We can be told their age after a pregnancy I think. How we are matched, we fill in a form about ourselves, including height weight education levels etc plus photos. We fill in a third column about what we would like for the donor and how strictly we want to stick to those criteria. Then the coordinator offers you a donor and lists height, weight hair and eye colour, education, interests and if they've donated before etc.

This time the donor is a little short, but I really don't want to wait any longer so I'm pretty sure we will accept!

Lumen, glad you're okay hun, it is nice to have a bit of time "off"