Roll up! Roll up! Mount those uni cycles and shake those pom poms. The Elderberry Pavlovas are drumming away in the hope of a Christmas clusterdiff (Thread 24).

[happylass]

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

The roll of honour:

Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 unsuccessful cycle of ICSI September '14. Starting cycle 2 in January.
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014
Serenity 34 TTC Jan 2013, unexplained infertility, DH has textbook super sperm, 3 rounds unsuccessful clomid, 1 ICSI June 14 with complete fertilisation failure, next ICSI Nov 14.
Jelliebabe - 40, Threw the pills away 8 years ago. Unexplained but have a very low AMH, 1st IVF with clinic in Prague, 2 embryo's, chemical pregnancy. 2nd IVF in London branch of clinic - 1 embryo, BFN. Hoping to go back to Prague for Donor eggs in January
nolly, 32, TTC since Sep 2012, unexplained. 6 months clomid did sod all, next appointment 29th Oct, hoping to start private round ivd soon.
Pixie, 33, TTC June 12, DH has zero sperm count but managed to extract some under surgery, start downregging in a week, long protocol, ICSI Nov
Tigerdog 34, ttc 21 months. Unexplained after all tests and currently on waiting list for IVF.
Beaky 34 ttc since aug 2012. Unexplained with recurring cysts and adenomyosis. 1 failed IUI, IVF appointment in November and hoping to start first cycle in January.
Bushy 36, ttc since dec 2011, low amh, ovarian reserve, dh sperm had low count & motility but improved to 'normal' standard, IVF/Icsi in May bfp, then later missed miscarriage at 12 week scan. 2nd Ivf imminent but not sure if dates will work over Christmas.
HampshireBlues 36 TTC since August 2011, unexplained. 1st cycle of IVF chemical. Had a break over the summer. Cycle 2 planned for November
WildflowerMarmalade , 40, TTC 3 years, unexplained, underactive thyroid + immune issues. Sept IUI - BFN. Due to start IVF in Jan
lumen, 35, ttc since Nov 11 without a sniff of a bfp, unexplained, had only nhs funded IVF summer 2014, no implantation, trying self-funded IVF Nov 14, currently mid cycle
AnnieHoo 41, ttc July 2012. Unexplained. MMC Nov 2012, MMC May 2014. IVF Oct 2014 BFN. Waiting for FET.
Trill 41, TTC since March 2013. Endo with one completely blocked tube and one kinked with adhesions. Currently stimming.

And Gil's handy guide to the current IVFers....

Smidge - PUPO on 3 Nov
Pip - ET on 5 Nov
Lumen -EC on 5 Nov
Trill - day 5 of stims
Pixie - week of DR done
Seren - stimming yet?
Gillster- start DR on 4 Nov
Kuma - you starting soon???

Welcome back funky

Haha aww Tiger poor Happy

Yey Funky and Spare are back too! Spare good luck with your fet next week! Funky are you long or short protocol? Sorry if you've said in t'other place, my memory is shit.

Waiting on dh coming in for some wine and feeling a bit down. I got my catching rainbows plan back too which is interesting, I don't think I'm convinced at the moment but I think I'll feel better in myself for following it.

How's everyone else?

Ooh gorgeous new thread! I can't believe you're on page 2 already. Thank you for creating the thread happy.

And prodigal berries! How exciting.

(Dashes back to old thread to catch the last few posts and tiger's final post crash).

Oh tiger, that is so funny.

pipbin congrats on being pupo. And what lovely news from you lumen fingers crossed for some growers now.

Well, I'm glad you've all made it in despite my attempt at sabotage!! Doh, t'was an honest mistake! Me and my big gob, eh!

welcome back funky and spare

This thread feels like a winner to me so here's hoping for bfps all round!

beaky what sort of things did the plan recommend? I've not followed mine to the letter but found some things, like the meditations have helped me feel better when a bit low. Enjoy your I'm

Got our consenting appointment through. It's the one where we see the nurse and they give us our prescription. It's not till 3rd Dec but will push it back till Jan anyway I think, with a view to starting in mid March. Still feeling a bit short-changed that we have no consultant appointment and therefore our treatment plan doesn't appear to be at all personalised.

Found you! V funny x-post cocking up the ending there Tiger!

Hi spare I'm currently doing Clexane injections. After freaking out on the first one, I've actually managed the next 3 OK. Would love your leftovers but I'm in Australia and I'm not sure they'd be too keen on needles though the post... They're a bit picky about what's allowed . Really hope it helps this little bean stick.

I don't think I like being the next berry coming up to OTD, it's a bit nerve wracking. The pressure to start the next cluster diff! . Still, there have been so many good signs this time - not only did I spot that unicyclist yesterday, but then after parking my car (and posting on here) I then opened the door and found 10cents on the floor. Lady Luck my berry friends, Lady Luck. This is my woo.

Just thought I'd update the current treatment list for the latest developments:

Smidge - PUPO, OTD 14th Nov?
Pip - PUPO, OTD 17th Nov
Lumen - 7 embies, awaiting day 3 (8th) or day 5 (10th) transfer
Spare - awaiting FET w/c 10th Nov
Trill - day 8 of stims
Pixie - 10 days of DR done
Seren - stimming yet?
Gillster - day 3 of DR (FET ~2nd week Dec)
Kuma - you starting soon???

Let's do this ladies!

Smidge I was the first Berry to ruin the Sept clusterdiff. I feel more lucky with you leading us along.

akk where did everyone go? turn your back for a minute, honestly ;)

welcome new people. Everyone here is lovely.

Have we got any new grads to add to the list?

So an hour after my blood test was scheduled that I had to cancel my flippin withdrawal bleed finally starts. Typical. anyway, ok to do it Mon and then all being well it'll be go go go on jabbing and drumming Wed.

Berries I have a word of advice for any of you who do presentations. Don't have your email previews on. I had my screen visible to director and execs and then Mr P emails me.... whatever professional image I may have had I can safely say is now in shatters!

Hey nolly, not heard from you for a while. what's the latest?

Smidge we have full confidence in you setting the right example. On your unicycle. With your 10cents.

Beaky did the help or you still feeling down? Do you have nice wknd plans? I have times when still feel super sad. On the drive into work today I got all tearful watching the little kiddies walking to school and mum's with prams. Never gets any easier.

I'm bored! Really not feeling the work vibe and eager to start the weekend. Was going to pop out to have my AMH test done but the weather is too grim and I can't face getting soaked so think I'll put it off till Monday or maybe until after this cycle even as we're not rushing to start ivf. Very quiet weekend ahead which I'm really looking forward to. Sewing supplies should be arriving in the post so I can make some Christmassy things. What is everyone else up to? How are our PUPO ones? lumen what's the latest re ET? smidge I am so keeping everything crossed for you to lead the way on the cluster diff!

X post pixie.

Ha, yes I'm always sure to close outlook when presenting as this has happened to me before! Exciting that you'll be all systems go very soon. It's funny what makes us sad but this ttc malarkey is hard and the constant reminders are everywhere. and

Hello there. I should be asleep (it's just gone 4am) but I woke up an hour ago after having a horrible dream that OH had told his XW (that his mother still loves and talks to all the time... Not that I'm insecure or bitter or anything!) that we are doing IVF. I was so upset and really angry (as I'd already made it very clear letting her know would not be ok) that I thought there was no going back from this in our relationship. The whole thing seemed so real that it took me a while after waking up to realise it hadn't actually happened! How do we manage to tortue ourselves even when sleeping?! anyway, so glad it wasn't real - but after another trip to the loo (will my bladder ever return to normal?) I find myself wide awake, so have sneaked on to MN.

Pixie oooh I can imagine that . So, dare I ask what MrP actually wrote in his email... ?

Tiger your sewing supplies have reminded me I still have a massive way to go on a tapestry that I started 8 months ago. In fact I ordered it last Christmas but with several delivery cockups on the way it took 3months to arrive. My plan was to finish it and turn it into a cushion for the MIL for this year's Christmas present (in a futile attempt to win favour) but I still haven't even finished the sky!!

Hi my lovely ladies! I've found you!! I thought you were all being a bit quiet then I twigged!

Pixie! Go on tell us what the email said!?!?! Do you have pet names? Lol

Beaky... Not surprised your still tripping over your beak hugs honey x

Smidge - I had a dream about oh that made me wake up furious with him! It was really stupid too! I can remember screaming "you can't do anything can you!". Took ages to get over the crosspatch feeling. Dreams are weird. Fact!

I can't read any further back on this thing sorry! We've so many berries ivfing at the mo its ace! I see some Xmas bfps coming up! Cmon berries!

AFM - I've had a bad cough all week and a shit load on at work. Organising a major move so I've had to cancel a day off and rearrange a much looked forward too cookery course. Of course today they've pushed it back a week! Gaaaah. I'm exhausted from coughing and my bladder is not holding up the good fight . I'm drinking a glad of vino now and I'm going to bed early!

And I haven't heard about our donor yet. I flinched every time I had an email this whole week...

Glad to see people have found our lovely new thread.

smidge hope you got back to sleep. I often have bad dreams that involve me waking in a really bad mood with my dh and it takes a while for me to get over them. It's usually to do with him cheating on me, he thinks I am insecure but after 16 years together you would think my subconscious would have caught up with reality!

tiger what are you sewing? I am in the middle of making quilted lap throws for my three grandparents ad their Christmas presents, need to get back to them, hoping they can distract me when I am on 2ww.

As usual having bad memory and on phone!

I am waiting outside my acupuncture ladies house for my 8pm appointment. Had a minor freak out this morning at 4.30am that if we end up with another day three wit tomorrow I would not have time to see her and get to the clinic. So texted her and here I am (she is an angel as doesn't work Fridays). Have also been stressing on the progress if our embies and whether we will have any get to blast this time. I know I cannot control any of this so I should not stress but that knowledge is not really helping. I want this to work SO badly

Sorry for the downer, will try to get my positive mental attitude back tomorrow. Happy weekend berries, will let you know what the news is tomorrow.

Well I think I'm out for the November clusterdiff.
Was in the supermarket earlier and noticed tampax were on offer and was just about to reach and take a few boxes off the shelf when I thought no! I don't need to bulk buy these! Positive thoughts Spare!
So I've clearly jinxed it and condemned myself to another year of buy one, pay for one on boxes of the evil witch plugs. Grrr.
On the flip side, I got a free bottle of wine today and am enjoying it. Small mercies.

Evening all,
Lovely new thread, thank you for setting up Happy

Need to start with a rant I'm afraid as DH is still at work, I can't get hold of him and have no idea what time he's likely to be on the train home! Am I the only one who thinks it's unreasonable for someone to be in work at 9pm on a Friday night!? Poor man has only made it home before 9 once this week and I have a quivering dog from the fireworks and haven't eaten! Boo!

Pixie good news on the bleed (it always seems odd to welcome the witch) stimming here you come!

Lumen hope acupuncture lady works her magic! I'm keeping everything crossed for your embies.

Glad the clexane is going ok Smidge

I'm making a chain of hearts with either the Christmas or Noel Noel spelt out on them to hang on my mantlepiece lumen. Possibly a little twee but fun to make Also making a roman blind for our kitchen.

Quivering hound here too hb. she is wrapped up in a blanket as it is the only thing that soothes her when there's loads of fireworks. Hope your dh gets home soon!

Hope the acu session was good lumen Will be channeling the PMA for you!

spare definitely not jinxed. Enjoy the . i am on the tigers milk wild

Hope you managed to get some more sleep smidge and jellie hope you feel better. What were you going to be cooking? Fingers crossed for news of your donor too.

Hope you're feeling better today beaky

Ooh tiger's milk, now that is a good idea. I'll make some later, after a lovely, long, hot bath.

lumen it's perfectly understandable that you are stressing over the embies. I'm on tenterhooks for you. You're right that worrying won't affect anything but just let yourself do what comes naturally. Let us know as soon as you know, please!

And how lovely is your acu lady? I bet she wouldn't have done that for just anyone.

Good news on your cycle starting Pixie.

We've just been watching the FA Cup match. It's so funny how they announce all the non-league players' job titles with enormous gusto; He's a chartered surveyooooor!!!!. It made me giggle.

Smidge I have confidence for all of you ivf'ers we had none in our must recent treatment cluster therefore there has to be loads now!

Tiger I'm ok thanks for asking, I think I need to pull my head out of my arse now and get on with everything. Give your puppy big hugs from me, poor thing, and HB yours too. It's so awful when they are frightened. HB I think that's rubbish for a Friday night! Is it absolutely necessary he work that late? I hate when my dh is out every night.

The CR plan was interesting Tiger she sent me some mindfulness meditations and has recommended b6, magnesium and coq10 which I already take, so will def add in magnesium but I am a bit weary of b6 as I need my cycle to be regular coming up to IVF and it delayed it previously. Other than that, wheat free etc and trying to decrease my stress and get some more support. I kind of feel like I know that already but at least it validates it. Did yours recommend much different?

lumen you have a good fertilisation rate already so I think you will get some good blasts . Fx for you though and will be waiting to hear how things are going tomorrow. To you and Spare I will pompom my head off for all of your bfps. There has to be some on the way!

Pixie typical! But great news AF arrived and you can move on to drumming next week. to the presentation/email preview!

Nolly good to see you! How's things going?

Thanks for the hugs Jellie and fx you hear about your donor ASAP.

Has Bushy found her way here yet?

Hooray it's Friday!

I'm getting my usual pre-AF belly ache . Slight pink tinge to the gel remnants too. I know it's early as OTD isn't for another 6 days so I'm sure you'll all try to reassure me, but I always get symptoms way in advance of my period. I've just checked my period tracker app and yes, often get the belly ache a week before AF starts, and spotting on average for about 5 days before.

Oh but I really really really want this to work. It's so frustrating not to be able to do anything to help this process. It feels so hopeless . I keep hoping the ache will ease off but it isn't. It would be nice even to make it to test day and actually get the opportunity to pee on a stick. GAH!

Good morning ladies! Sorry for your worry smidge but please don't give up hope! It's not over yet so try to think lovely positive thoughts. Remember that clexane is a blood thinner so pink tinge is not necessarily a bad sign. Sending you positive vibes

What is chasing rainbows beaky? I've seen it mentioned a few times, is it some sort of plan??

Shame about your worried pooches tiger and HB, difficult when you can't reassure them, eh? Luckily my puss didn't seem that bothered by all the fireworks. When did hubby get home HB??

How was your acupuncture lumen? I enjoyed mine on Wed, she said my ovaries were 'singing'! She attached electrodes to the needles this time so I had wee pulses going through my abdomen, weird sensation. Once I know potential ET I need to go back to her. Strange that my lady doesn't work a Friday either, maybe it's the same lady!!

I hope you feel better soon jellie

How's DR going Gill?

Hello to everyone else!

AFM attended clinic yesterday, 5 follies each ovary ranging from 11mm to 15mm, lining 8mm. To continue injections and add in sniffing four times daily, back on Monday for another scan and bloods. Feeling positive and excited but trying not to get carried away. I'm very aware that the the success rate for my age is low (a stinking 8%!) But there is always hope, eh?! And so far my body is behaving beautifully so I'm just going to embrace that and hope for the best !

Trillium good news on follicle size! it's an odd feeling when you're happy because your body is reacting the way it should to drugs. Will keep everything crossed for Monday. What day is EC aimed for?

Smidge sorry that you have started to get pains. I'm keeping everything crossed for you. It so difficult when you are in the 2WW as you can't do any more.

DH walked through the door at 11pm, apparently the meeting was still going strong! I tried not to berate him too much but I hate him working so late. We're hopping to finish the Christmas shopping this weekend so will treat him while we are out.

Happy weekend all!

Finish Christmas shopping?! OMG I've not even started! You put me to shame! Have fun .

EC for Tues\wed hopefully. Thanks for the well wishes!

Try not to worry Smidge. I know what you mean about wanting to pee on a stick. The tests in my bathroom cupboard have been there so long they are out of date!

I've just realised that I've got two boxes of crinone that I won't use because I'm on gestone. Is there any way I can pass them on to someone and save her having to buy them?