TTC after MC; hand holding, hugs and lots of things that can JTFO!

[Treaclepie19]

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

I sometimes have ov pain but not every month, so can't use that as a guide, not had any mid cycle spotting before. I can't get my head round charting ovulation it just feels like I'd be forcing it and it's an added expense that I don't think is necessary. We tend to dtd every other day starting as soon as af finishes, carrying on through the month. Seems to work every time for me (even if they aren't sticking at the moment) and my hubby certainly doesn't complain about getting so much. It's a bit regimented but there should always be a fresh supply of sperm knocking around at the opportune time. I admit sometimes we skip a day or add an extra day so its not completely like military manoeuvres.
Lets hope we all have a very successful August

Oh my days.

I had a proper night out last night and didn't get to sleep til 7 am. My first thought is "What if im wrong and I am pregnant this month". Ugh.

Hope all are ok. Will read back in a sec.

Hi ladies. Sorry some of us are having a rough time. lazy all of us, at some time, have felt over whelming jealousy and envy. I know I certainly have. What really gets me is first time pregnant ladies who have it all go right. I’ve realised what I envy most (apart from their babies of course) is their innocence. I know I’ll never look at a positive pregnancy test again and feel joy, just ‘fuck, I hope it doesn’t go wrong this time’. Being jealous of someone’s innocence is horrible and nasty but….I can’t help it, it’s the truth.

fox I’m not sure about the spotting, I’ve never experienced that but I know it is quite common for other people. I’d just DTD anyway!

metal Ashermans is my deepest fear. I’ve had two surgical procedures in six months and my last AF (first after WTF cycle) was so so light, couldn’t even really call it a period. Like you I really hope my next AF is heavy just to set me mind at rest. It is so rare though, I’m really sure you will be fine. If its really bothering you could you try and get an NHS referral?

While we’re on this subject, I feel I need to say something. I talk about two procedures and ‘two losses’ but actually there was a third. When I was 22 I had a termination after I accidentally got pregnant. I had no job and was not in a steady relationship. I feel like I need to say it on here, to bear witness to the fact it did happen. I wish it hadn’t, but I’ve never regretted it, it was the right decision. However, I’ve been starting to think maybe I’m getting punished now for it. I know that’s ridiculous but these things do play on your mind.

Sigh. Its my birthday tomorrow. My friend is arriving from overseas, we planned it months ago and the idea was she would be meeting my brand new newborn baby. We will go out and we will have a lovely time and there will be but I would much rather have the baby.

Hugs to all.

Do we have no poas-ers today?

monton please don't think like that! You are not being punished. What you did was the right thing to do for you at the time.

I had a termination at 17 due to the same reasons as you. When I had to have my TFMR I thought the same as you are. Now I'm ttc I'm thinking, that's it I've had my chances I'll never get pregnant again.

I see a counsellor sometimes, she is who I saw for PTSD after my TFMR, and she does help me rationalise it and think logically. Have you ever spoken to anyone? Just getting it off your chest out loud helps immensely I've found.

for you. It's a shitty feeling. As is the envying peoples innocence.

I got the fear the other night and sobbed to DP a little bit, as if I ever get pregnant again, I won't be able to enjoy it, and I want to enjoy it like everyone else does and it's not fair (there may have been a little bit of foot stamping ... )

I am 6 DPO, AF due next Saturday and right now I have no AF symptoms and no pregnancy symptoms!! Nothing to analyse or stress about!! How annoying!!

Fx for anyone POAS today!

Monten sorry!! Was typing to fast

Sorry to hear lots of you are feeling low.
Monten, please don't feel like that. You did the right thing for you at the time. You're not being punished.

I know what you mean about nor being able to enjoy it next time bitchpeas.

I POAovS, if that counts. First complete negative since MC (but I haven't done one in a couple weeks). Those hormones must be gone now. Which I guess is good even if it doesn't feel that way...

Monten, as awful as those thoughts are I feel completely the same. Me and DH (DP at the time) had a termination when we were 19. We were just at uni, it wasn't the right time. Wasn't easy but was probably the right thing. The thought that it may have been our only chance and now we are being punished is hard to deal with sometimes. Especially a couple years into TTC with no luck but when that happened so easily after one mistake!

It's not fair bitchpeas, none of it. Not sure we will ever be able to enjoy pregnancy the same as others do - especially not the early bit.

It's so hard not to think negative thoughts, isn't it? I haven't had a termination but I sometimes think this is my punishment for being a crap mum to DD. I had PND for the first year and spent much of the early months wishing I could give her back... Of course none of this has any bearing on my ability to conceive now, but when you're feeling low all reason and logic goes out the window!

Monten I mentioned the light periods to my GP last month but he wasn't concerned, even though he basically admitted it could be because they scraped too much of the lining away during the erpc. This AF seems a bit heavier so far, so I will wait maybe a couple more months and see if things improve. If not I might just pay the £500 to get an answer one way or another, I don't want to waste months on waiting for Nhs referrals.

Thanks everyone. It's amazing when you mention it how many people have experienced it too, much like MCs sadly. I know its illogical but its difficult not to think that way when you're low. Like you say dulcet I think I have always had low level anxiety about my fertility all these years, thinking maybe that was my only chance.

I agree metal if I'm still worried in a few months I will just pay the £££ for a private consultation. Its too important to mess around and frankly time is not on my side. for you, PND must be so horrible. And another of those things that are more common that people realised and just not talked about enough.

Bitchpeas I saw a therapist after my dad died and it was enormously helpful, not just for the grief over my dad but generally, for loads of things. I haven't see anyone recently but would def consider it again, I found it enormously helpful. Foot stamping is a very good way to describe my reaction the other day to my mum telling me a mutual friend has just given birth, nine months after her wedding day. It's not fucking fair, none of it is.

Congrats on your negative HPT dulcet - I think you must be our only POASer today!

CD13 on first cycle post WTF cycle here and still no OV. Grr

oh ladies, big hugs to those having wobbles. You are not being punished for having terminations or PND. xxx

so whoever said "miscarriage, the gift that keeps giving" was spot on. FFS.
After my slight cramps and almost positive opk on Wednesday then this morning I have started spotting. After seeing that this morning I expected AF to have arrived by now, but still just slight spotting. WTF cycle indeed! No idea if I'm coming or going.

More hugs from me - this crappy ttc / mc we find ourselves in is not because of pond or terminations, it's just the way it goes sometimes.

I had a mc when I was 20, a student, bf also a student and it honestly would not have been a good time at all for a baby. I didn't know I was pg because of my v irregular cycles but mc at 8 weeks. I used to beat myself up with guilt, I should have been taking folic acid, looking after myself, eating better, maybe it wouldn't have happened. But I only found out 4 years later I have pros which causes the weird cycles and unfortunately makes mc a bit more common.

Hope everyone has a nice relaxing de stressing weekend plan - I think we all need one - I'm off to yoga tonight!

CD44 here, feeling tired, sore back and tummy cramps but I'm convinced it's a much delayed AF en route - poas 3 times earlier in the week, all bfn. Hormones seriously out of whack tho - grouchy and tearful. Just hurry up and get here AF!!

Good morning ladies

I hope it's ok if I join you. I was previously on dragon threads until mc in March. Have been lurking after a suggestion from someone following my mc but have not felt brave enough to join in.

Stats are 32 this month, ttc 1, came off pill April 2013, mc march 2014 around 8 weeks. Have had a break from ttc until well until now really. Feeling ready to try again.

Looking forward to chatting with you all. I must admit I feel abit wobbly this morning having decided to go for it.

Cd6 here, CBFM started asking for sticks this morning. Hoping for some Highs and EWCM this cycle. Might take some cough syrup to help with that, Tesco own brand is pretty cheap.

Tori I know with my first mc I had some cramping and bleeding right at the end of my spotting after my first AF and passed some clots. Directly after that the spotting stopped and my hpts went negative. So sometimes there is a little but more at the end until it's finally over xx

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Welcome queenshorses, sorry you are here but good luck on getting back to it. Hopefully not a long wait for a bean that will stick.

I think that is fine tori, obviously really annoying but sounds reasonable that there might be a bit of bleeding left. I keep thinking in done and then turns out I'm not! Hope it wasn't too painful.

Is cough syrup meant to help with EWCM then seb?

My AF has now been 7 days this time. Never last this long. 5 days max. Hopefully it won't be like this every month now.

Hi Allthe sorry for your loss.

ToriB I had bleeding on and off for a couple of weeks after the main bleed stopped iyswim.

I'm 7 DPO, and I woke up this morning with stabby pains on my right hand side, 2-3 inches above my pubic bone, it was quite uncomfortable but only lasted 5-10 mins. What could this be? I'm stressing but not sure what I should be stressing about! It happened when I was 5 DPO and 6 DPO, so three days in a row now

Hi All marking my place
Ttc#2 6 months mc at 6 weeks a fortnight ago

Hi All marking my place
Ttc#2 6 months mc at 6 weeks a fortnight ago

Hi All marking my place
Ttc#2 6 months mc at 6 weeks a fortnight ago

Thanks everyone. Hope this is a good month for all. I am sorry for all your losses. I am grateful to have somewhere to speak with those who are going through similar pain.

Just reminding myself of the abbreviations! Yes, what is the cough syrup for seb? Torib I also had bleeding on and off for a while after the mc. Took my cycle really two months to go back to normal.

Peas I am not sure about pain but is it not possible to have implantation pain as well as or instead of bleeding?

When best to try again after mc heard lots of conflicting advice we're really hurt by the loss but desp to try again xxxc

Hope you don't mind me gate crashing your thread-I often lurk to get passive support.

I am just posting to say hi allthequeenshorses.

I remember you from back in March and the pain you went through at the same time as me and I was actually thinking of you this past week, whilst I was on holiday in the North Yorkshire Moors.
We were near a farm and I remembered how strong you were, going through your terrible time but still being up all night to deliver a foal. I was wondering how you were getting on.

I believe this is more than just a coincidence and I sincerely hope you are successful TTC again and you benefit from all the wonderful support from equally strong ladies on this thread.