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Going Clucking mental? Old birds gather round.....

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 13/05/2014 10:54

A thread for the older ttc'er. Join us in the chicken coop for support, advice or just somewhere to rant.

Here's the old thread for those wanting to do serious lurking:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1978730-Old-birds-wanna-join-the-coop?msgid=47008448#47008448

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 09/07/2014 10:47

I'm sorry stubborn, it does suck. I've taken to think of it as an endurance test, almost feels like if I suffer enough I may earn my sticky bfp. I know that's probably very unhealthy.

The only consultation may be you do have good healthy cycles, I think it's normal for it to take 1-2yrs for our age group. Be kind to yourself, enjoy your concert tonight & have a few drinks.

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FattyFishwife · 09/07/2014 11:06

haha ginger, not at all....didnt even think your comment was other than nice :)

its daft, but even with this being #6 im TTC, im STILL symptom spotting and still as ridiculously giddy about it all as if it was my first....maybe im a pregnant-oholic....as i know that when (if) i get preggo....i will buy the books and magazines and track my babies progress on websites....even though I know it all down pat.....

stubbornstains · 09/07/2014 13:17

(Welcome to my official wallow...)

Every cycle, I'm perfectly fine and rational during the first part of the 2WW, then start to become more and more convinced I'm PG as I move towards the end. I had such bad exhaustion and fatigue yesterday (and had to spend the day up a ladder in the middle of a busy shopping street -not ideal!)- spent ages reading up about PG symptoms- was convinced it was a clear sign- for God's sake, I suffer from pre menstrual fatigue quite regularly. And the bubbly, burrowy sensations are still there- and AF's come on properly now. They've probably always been there- I've just never noticed them before. FFS.

I just can't accept that it's this difficult this time around. 18 months ago I got pregnant so flukily, despite using a condom, and had a termination because I'd only been with DP a few months and was so convinced that I was effortlessly fertile. So part of me thinks that I deserve this.

DP has finally got his official sperm appt. on the 21st (which could well be bang in the middle of my next fertile period, and he has to abstain for 2 days in advance Hmm), and part of me really hopes they find a problem with him. Because it's so easy (and cheap, AFAIK) to use donor sperm. As opposed to donor eggs, or IVF. God, that sounds a bit mean, doesn't it?

I've been thinking about adoption again today.It sounds really tempting- but my big barrier would be not whether adoption is right for us- but whether I'm right for adoption. To be honest, I am frequently such a grumpy, shouty cow with DS, I genuinely wonder whether I could be nice and attentive enough to a child with real problems?

(pulls duvet of doom over head).

stubbornstains · 09/07/2014 13:21

On the other hand, adopting a sibling close in age could be perfect for DS. He never stops talking. I'm up here hiding and I can hear him in the back yard still talking- to no one AFAIK. I hear adopted children often have a speech delay because they haven't been talked to enough- I think we have the cure for that right here Grin

Gingerbreadlady1 · 10/07/2014 07:53

Oh stubborn, my heart really went out to you when I read this. You are well & truly under the duvet of doom.

You do NOT deserve this because you had a termination. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, we'd all be living perfect lives if we had it. You made the best decision you could at the time. I'm sure there are many woman on the ttc boards who are in a similar position. And the guilt that goes with having had a termination will make it worse.

I also secretly hoped the problem may be with dp (mid-spent youth) but no, it's all on me. Also for same reasons, as it seems easier to resolve when it's sperm related.

The adoption avenue will remain there. If you have the strength you can continue with ttc & get your bfp.
I hope you had a great time at the concert & got very drunk. Don't care if it's twee,

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stubbornstains · 10/07/2014 09:52

Aw, thanks ginger (wobbly lip). Well, that's the monthly wallow over....Smile. Yes, very hungover, very tired, my knees and pelvic floor are both destroyed from jumping up and down for 2 solid hours....it was worth it though!

sebsmummy1 · 10/07/2014 10:00

Oh girls I'm sorry things are so crap right now. I'm only quiet as I have nothing to report whatsoever. I am on cd8, CBFM reads low, hoping I'll ovulate around cd13 (assuming I do manage to squeeze an egg out of course).

Partner has some time off over OV time so we are going to do the evening before OV, morning of OV as this has worked for us twice now. Also going to try and BD a little after OV as I can't help but wonder if we give up too soon.

Otherwise still having my Reflexology sessions. Will be interested to see if my LP remains at 14 days or goes back to 12 this cycle. Obviously would rather be pregnant but assuming I won't be.

stubbornstains · 10/07/2014 10:35

I'm intrigued sebsmummy...what do you do with the eponymous Seb during your morning shaggery? Am very Envy- we never manage to have morning sex!

sebsmummy1 · 10/07/2014 10:46

He has a nap at about 10.30 and even if he didn't we can be done and dusted in 15 mins very easily lol, so TV program downstairs or iPad in his room would work just as well. He is 19 months though so he is not fighting to get into the room or asking enquiring questions. I imagine it would not be do easy if he was 3 for example.

stubbornstains · 10/07/2014 10:51
Grin

DS is four, and would be: "What you doing? Why? Can I play too?"

stubbornstains · 10/07/2014 10:53

"I want to make a baby TOO! It's not fair!" Then he would wander off and come back .3 of a second later with some lego to make a baby with or something. Grin

sebsmummy1 · 10/07/2014 11:11

Pmsl. Anyone he could go on a morning at date with? Any grandma who would take him? Otherwise is there anything he absolutely LOVES doing that he could be left with downstairs while you and hubby have a quicky in the bathroom with a locked door for five minutes?

sebsmummy1 · 10/07/2014 11:11

*play date

Gingerbreadlady1 · 10/07/2014 13:25

I'm the same sebs, I'm cd10 but no idea what's honing to happen this month. My new prolactin med is making me really sick, was throwing up in the wee small hours this morning (good for weight loss, not so good for keeping meds in system).I'll need to post a pic of the leaflet with side affects, they're mental!

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stubbornstains · 10/07/2014 14:34

We did manage once- DP had a morning off, so I took DS to preschool and then came back home and back to bed Grin. Sadly, his work's got really busy so it's been a while since he was able to do that. We shall just have to keep plugging away (ahem) of an evening...

Oh dear, that is really shit about the prolactin meds ginger. Are there any reasons why your prolactin is elevated or is it another "one of those things"?

stubbornstains · 10/07/2014 14:35

Here's hoping for a picture-perfect 28-dayer for you this month! (or better still, a 10-monther! Smile

Gingerbreadlady1 · 10/07/2014 19:44

Apparently Eva Mendes (40) is 7 months pregnant with Ryan goslings baby. Lucky, lucky bitch.

stubborn it's either "one of those things" (joy) or a tumour on pituitary gland, awaiting MRI. That really would be my luck....

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 10/07/2014 19:46

Even the bloody panda is pregnant!!! Ahhhhhhhhh!

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stubbornstains · 10/07/2014 20:08

Oh my goodness, that sounds a little scary....Would you be able to have it removed? Good luck....

Re: the panda- hurrah! I remember making a comment about her on the last thread. So, wait for it.....they've got a BFP for their Big Fat Panda then! Grin

There are also two more BFPs on the over-40s thread!Smile One of them is holding off the congratulations for a little while as she's had a few early losses though....The other has had donor eggs and it all seems to be going swimmingly so far....

By the way, I am wondering if jumping vigorously up and down can make your period flow quicker....? I had a good old mosh at the Pixies last night, and AF has proved much heavier than it has been for ages, but looks like it's drying up quicker, too.

...A question I could really only ask on this particular forum, isn't it?!

Tranquilitybaby · 11/07/2014 01:08

Just checking in and sorry to read some of your are having it rough at the minute :( the first six months or 2014 have been pretty rubbish for many of us, I'm trying to be positive that some good news will come during the remainder of the year.

I'm just waiting for next AF (due in a couple of weeks) and then we can officially starting trying again after my ectopic. Scary shit but I'm mentally ready to try again now. X

AnnieHoo · 11/07/2014 13:45

Sorry to hear some of you are feeling down at the moment and that your meds are making you sick ginger.

It's so hard all of this.

It has been a horrible start to 2014 for me too Tranquility .. the chances are that there will be good times ahead for the second half of the year ...

ahhhh I am so happy for Tian Tian the panda! She had a mc in 2013 and i was so sad for her then.

Gingerbreadlady1 · 11/07/2014 14:11

Best. Side affects. EVER!!!

Get yourself on these meds, sickness aside it's a get out of jail free card for ANYTHING!

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AnnieHoo · 11/07/2014 14:13

Grin haha!!! you're off the hook!!

Gingerbreadlady1 · 11/07/2014 14:14

Clearer?

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Fankletastic · 11/07/2014 14:40

Hi chicks

Just been having a lurk to catch up with you all.
Sorry many of you have had such a crappy year so far. I felt just the same all through 2012 and 2013. It's hard going, especially when everyone around you -including the bloody panda - is getting pregnant.

Keeping fingers and toes crossed for better luck ahead.

Annie Glad you had a nice holiday.

Stubborn glad to see you have cheered up a bit since your duvet of doom day. It's to be expected and we are all entitled to a big fat moaning session.

Ginger please tell me these drug side effects are for real! Or did you just find this on google as a joke? Are they seriously the side effects of the drugs you are on? Whoever wrote them must have had a right giggle...haha maybe they were on the drugs too and feeling a bit hedonistic!

All is fine over here with me. Hit 2nd trimester this week. Still nervous but trying hard not to worry too much.