Home of the very brave TTC after MC-ers. Advice, understanding and a variety or food based euphemisms. Pull up a pew, ladies!

[Justonemoretime]

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

[sebsmummy1]

Much calmer today thank you. Lines are no darker at all, so I think it's a simple case of a chemical pregnancy and I'm still seeing the tail end of the hcg as my tests are all 10miu.

Not sure I will bother with the doctor tomorrow. I'll see how I feel in the morning. My body is making all the signs that it is gearing up to ovulate. EWCM aplenty! So we are going to carry on DTD every other day and keep testing with the OPKs and see if I get a really dark line. At the moment I think the hcg is complicating things but I'm assuming it only had about 4 days to build up so it can't take that long to go down again!!?

[LittleMissSunshine33]

Sebs must be so confusing for you FX if you choose to go to the doctors tomorrow!

Well after a week of flashing smileys my body decided to finally let go and give me my LH surge but of course typically my OH was away for a stag do well FX his swimmers have stayed to meet the egg on its journey! Bloody painful OV though hot water bottle and chocolates for me whilst planning for next week ... note to self stop looking at how long sperm lives for and get on with maths planning!!

[Littlelady33]

Darn that's annoying little miss! Although if you dtd pretty regularly up until then you should be ok.

[FlorenceandZebedee]

Hi all,

I'm interested to know what people's AFs were like in the months after miscarriage. I had a mmc (11+5) near the end of Feb but didn't fully mc until the 1st March. 4 weeks later I had a textbook AF: a few cramps, a bit of moodiness and 5 days of bleeding-as per usual. But, this month has been ridiculous, I am now 2 days over and am having a completely confused month (not preg as did a test) I have had cramps since last Tuesday which were very heavy on Friday and lots of twinges in what I think may be my left ovary. Feeling very emotional today, although cramps have pretty much gone, and just want the witch to arrive so hormones can balance and we can move on. Did anyone else have cycles all over the shop?

[officelady]

Yes, yes and yes florence! Had my first "normal" AF 22 days after mc (also a mmc at 11+5). Then came on yesterday, which was only 21 days after the first period. Wtf is that about?! So far pretty "normal" (for me) in terms of moodiness, cramps etc. No unusual bleeding or clots to report. But I am 99.9% sure I have not ovulated at all since the mc so according to Dr Google I'm either going through the menopause (bloody well hope not) or my hormones haven't recovered yet and it's "breakthrough" bleeding while my cycle sorts itself out. Technically it's nearly 3 months since my pregnancy ended (even though I didn't miscarry until several weeks later) but I don't feel like I'm anywhere near back to normal. It is so frustrating! I have decided for my mental health to pretend I'm not ttc any more so have taken up running and am getting myself into shape ready for the summer if we ever get any sun!
sebs crossing everything for you - in your shoes I would be peeing on sticks every day until I worked out wtf was going on. You could also go to the GP for blood tests if you want to check on HCG levels?
Littlemiss let's hope you had some strong swimmers in there hanging around waiting for that egg!
tanny you hit the nail on the head - I'm definitely jealous of pregnant women! How very dare they be all fertile and pregnant when I'm not. It's crazy because I genuinely wish them well, and I will be fine with it eventually, but it's like a slap in the face because I couldn't manage to stay pregnant. Nothing to do with them at all, the problem is 100% mine! I hope it will wear off in time.
Thanks for the anyhuman - I have also just taken delivery of 50 opks so that should keep me occupied for a few weeks! Thank god they are so cheap!
Nothing really to report from here - AF arrived as predicted after my foul mood yesterday morning. But on the positive side I ran 5k this morning, my first ever 5k distance and I ran the whole way! I am taking it very slowly, don't want to overdo it, but the feeling I get after a run is just epic - like I could conquer the world

[FlorenceandZebedee]

A good call on pretending not to TTC. I feel like my life has been dominated by:TTC, 2ww, bfp/bfn, mc and then back to the start for the past 12 months and crappy hormones are making it so much worse. Glad to hear all over the place is normal. (Also glad to hear it's normal to be insanely jealous of preg women but fine with newborns- thought I was a bit odd :-) )
Good for you with the running, I'm going to try and persuade my hub we need an extension so I can focus my energy elsewhere!!

[sebsmummy1]

Office I'm shitting myself again as this evenings stick looks darker and I feel nauseous again. I thinking I might use a digi with a conception indicator tomorrow and if it is positive then make a doctors appointment.

[Justonemoretime]

Sebs, if you are pg, the stress won't be helping. Get to the GP. x

[officelady]

That sounds like a plan sebs - hopefully they will be able to see what's going on with blood tests or maybe even a scan. It must be a really worrying time for you

[sebsmummy1]

Only reason im even considering not going is my doctor is very dismissive and has been pretty unsupportive throughout my infertility and subsequent miscarriage. I would rather not deal with doctors unless i have to because of this. If i wasn't feeling so bloody weird lately with stomach pains and nausea i might be less wobbly about it all.

[officelady]

Any chance you could ask to see a different GP? I hate going to the doctors so I would probably put it off too! But don't put your health at risk x

[silverine]

Hi ladies, can I pop in? Been lurking for quite a while sothought I'd say hi.
My stats are 31, no DCs, ttc since mid-2012, mmc1 november 2012 at 9 weeks, mmc2 february 2013 at 7 weeks. Took a break then until we did some private testing abroad (thrombophilia, antibodies, DH screening) which showed nothing wrong, apart from low vit D. Was also prescribed aspirin and high dose folic acid just in case as well as various vits.
Been ttcing again since Sept 2013, really going for it last few months especially. Also started acupuncture in the last 2 months but no success.
A cycle and a half ago I had a bfp but then bfns two days later. AF was a total of 8 days late but GPs just said 'period can be late' and did not record it as MC... it still felt really devastating though. Found it difficult to concentrate at work, etc. Currently taking a month off as the pressure was getting too much with all the meds, temperature taking and timed DTDs...
They all say it finally happens when u give up but I don't really want to give up yet as I feel I don't want to let time run away... (DH is 12 yrs older)
We're on long weekend away this weekend, hoping to help us relax a bit!!!

[officelady]

Hi silver, welcome to the club nobody wants to join
Very harsh of your GP to not record your latest loss as a mc, in my mind as soon as you get the BFP it is a pregnancy, even if it ends early.
Relaxing is definitely the way forward, am hoping it will work its magic for me too

[EnglishGirlAbroad]

Morning Ladies

Welcome Silver, Sorry for your losses. I hope you're not stuck with us here for long.... But you're with a good crowd. Echo what Office said, very harsh of your gp. Regardless of what point you mc, you have still lost a pregnancy and even the very early ones should count, especially when you have a history.

Sebs I hope you get some answers soon. I would probably go to see a different dr at the same practise and hope they're a little bit less dismissive.

FF finally confirmed ovulation for me! Wahoo! So I am now 4dpo. Ridiculously chuffed that I've even ovulated!!

[Cakebaker35]

sebs just a quick message - but please find a different gp, having a good one makes a massive difference to going through all this crap. Keeping fingers and toes crossed for you.

to everyone else before sprinting out the door x

[Triplespin]

sebs an alternative to the GP would be your local EPU. If its an ectopic you are worried about then they can determine the location of the pg at 5 weeks. They can also test your bhcg levels.

[sebsmummy1]

Girls, Tranquility on the other thread i have been posted on has just had my exact situation and is in hospital right now having had an ectopic and emergency surgery. So i have just rung the early scanning unit at my local hospital and they wont accept self-referrals so i have an GP appointment at 11.20am. I am absolutely terrified and even more so as Tranquillity got fobbed off and ruptured.

[EnglishGirlAbroad]

Sebs, try not to worry. I'm glad you're going to the doctors and hope it not bad news for you. Good luck

[Metalhead]

sebs I'm glad you're seeing a doctor. Without sounding patronising, if you're that worried I think you'll have to really try and be very forceful and stand your ground if your GP tries to dismiss your concerns. Do not leave that surgery without a referral or at least a blood test!!

I know how hard it is to stand your ground when the 'professionals' seem to brush off your concerns and make you feel like it's all in your head, but sometimes you just have to make a bit of a nuisance of yourself to get heard. Good luck, let us know how you get on. x

[EatsCakeForNoReasonWhatsoever]

May I join in please?

We've been trying for DC2 for nearly a year now, miscarriage in early Feb (I deliberately didn't make a note of the date as I don't want to think about it) - would have been due in September/October.
We've actually taken the last couple of months off, as I had some emotional baggage (of more than one sort) to work through and we were going to start officially trying again after the next AF, but um, we sort of got impatient and are sort of SWI again now.

Already I can feel the question mark hanging over the AF, I'm symptom spottting horrifically (like - i got really nauseous right after DTD the other night - could that mean I'm pg? Pathetic).

Just wanted to come somewhere where I could let the crazy out I guess :)

[sebsmummy1]

Honest to God you could not make this shit up. Ive just talked to my other nearby hospital who accepts self-referrals. They will not see me. Aren't concerned about my pain, recommended i take Paracetamol and seemingly its perfectly normal to have a full four day period and be pregnant!

I wonder whether it would be wort5h paying for a private scan if i get no joy from the Doctors?

[EnglishGirlAbroad]

What!! That's crazy Sebs!! Can't believe they can be so dismissive. Really hope your gp is a little more understanding. I'd be inclined to lay it on a bit thick and exaggerate a little. And like Metal says cause a stink!!

Welcome to the nut house Eatscake - sorry for your loss, hope you don't have to stay with us too long!

[TeaRex]

Welcome to eats and silvers, sorry for all you've both been through but we all understand what it's like so hopefully being here will help :)

sebs do NOT leave your doctors without a referral! Just go in, tell them what you want and inform the doctor you're not leaving until you've got it, I bet he caves in just to get rid of you. That sort of doctor just wants an easy day and if you present the easy option as give me a referral and I'll go, he'll take it. Best of luck and let us know how you get on xxxx

[sebsmummy1]

Honestly English I am so shocked. She kept saying to me, 'are you happy with my advice', and I said ' I am scared'. She said, ' I know, I can understand that, but are you happy with how we've left it'. 'Errrrm, no'.

I have just received a call back from the most lovely midwife at the Tommys pregnancy helpline service. She has just talked me down from the ceiling.

[sebsmummy1]

Plus I still don't even believe I am pregnant! I having conversations with people based on a series of faint lines. What the absolute fuck!