Home of the very brave TTC after MC-ers. Advice, understanding and a variety or food based euphemisms. Pull up a pew, ladies!

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The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Parsley hey there, nice to know you're still out there! And I'm pretty convinced MN knew we'd all be comparing piss sticks when we got the chance! Hell, I've got a whole back catalogue I can post!

June is my next EDD date to get through too. I'm past hoping to be upduffed by then, but it'll happen for us both sometime... x

Office I'm totally with you on that one. Someone here noticed that they had a worse reaction to pg women than babies, and that's certainly true for me. Babies are so far removed from my early losses, emotionally, but I should still be pg so am well jel of all pg women.

No fish from me, sounds like you're throwing plenty at yourself x

And I'm going to have to stop throwing kisses around. MN will be withdrawing my photo privileges!

Hi all, thanks for the new thread just

So so pleased for you seasides, brilliant news!!!

My stats: anyhuman, 35, ttc#2 since April 13, TFMR in Sept 13, MC at 6 weeks in April 14.

I've just been lurking for a while as not much to report. Ordered a load of internet cheapy OPKs and have started using them. Thanks for posting your pics tanny, really interesting for me as today's test for me looked similar to your first pic. So hopefully I will be OVing sometime in the next few days, I'm a bit surprised it's happening so soon actually as I am only 21 days post MC.

Parsley I don't think it sounds awful about the MC being less on your mind. It's the same for me - obv my MC was a lot earlier than yours and surely much less traumatic, but even the TFMR (post-amnio) seems to be getting more and more distant - like you said, a strange dream. Don't be hard on yourself.

Office I'm sure I would also feel weepy if someone caught me off guard with PG news, with the new baby visit you would probably have been expecting it but it's different when it comes out of the blue. really hope you feel better soon

Morning Ladies. this article might be of interest to any looking at the Prof Q route.

Well that was my peak ic opk, as it's getting feinter again.

Great article Just. I still think Prof Q is my next step...

Thanks just what I don't understand tough is that the article talks a lot about implantation, but prof q's protocol is to take steroids from bfp. Surely one would need to have treatment from implantation.
Have you been given progesterone supplements only? What did she say about use of aspirin?

Girls I am freaking out, can you look at my post please.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2063561-Freaking-out-what-should-I-do-21dpo-faint-positive-pregnancy-tests-had-a-normal-regular-period-8-days-ago-that-lasted-5-days-Is-this-ectopic

Triple, I saw Prof Brosens but had my phone consult with Prof Quenby. She is totally against aspirin, esp pre conception. I have progesterone from day 21-28 (carry on if bfp) then early scan and heparin once confirmed in uterus. Not sure about steroids as my nk cells are ok. It seems its the distribution rather than the number of those?

Sebs, sorry, I can't see pics on my phone. will check out your thread. hope you're ok. if you're not in pain, I'd try to relax and try to get a scan on Monday? x

I could see the pic. Looks +ive to me. See GP on Mon if you're worried. I've heard of similar situations being fine so fx it is for too.

Really hope it's good news too sebs, sorry I've got no experience of this so I'm zero help but fx that you get some answers soon x

sebs that looks like a very strong positive to me. Every test is different have you tried with an frer? With that I know you would expect dark lines as strong as the control give how far along you are.

Could you have you dates wrong ie you are not 21dpo but 14dpo? Then the bleed you had last week was most likely implantation. I would be quietly hopeful in our case.

There is absolutely no need to worry about an ectopic. The pain you describr would not emerge so soon. Also you generally have brown or prune juice coloured bleeding.

just what is that reason for heparin? Is that also a blood thinner? Did you test positive for any clotting or sticky blood?

Bloody hell sebs that's a corker of a line no experience to offer other than if you're worried see your gp on mon but I so bloody hope this is a sticky bean for you xxx

sebs I just looked into it a bit more for you. Two things:

1. Your line is fairly dark and darker than done 14dpo bfps on superdrug hpt posted on "countdown to pregnancy" website.
2. Some people have commented that superdrug hpts lines never got darker with higher hcg.

So I would say you should just relax till tomorrow. You are definitely pg as of now! Call your GP on Monday and hopefully they can test your beta hcg.

Ok, deep breath. I just don't see how this can possibly be viable when I've already bled so heavily.

The stats are last period (not counting the one just gone) 24th March , ovulated 5th April (cd13) then I was a day late and started my period just gone on cd27, normal flow lasted about four days with one day spotting which is totally normal. Surely that's my uterine lining gone?

I'm assuming it's a chemical. Only thing that confuses me is the hormone must be increasing somewhat as I am showing a peak on an opk this evening and I wasn't yesterday plus the IC is a little darker.

The plan is to make a GP appointment for Monday but I think I will also ring the EPU as I am on the register with them due to my recent mc and they may ask me to come straight in.

My ov dates are correct backed up by opks and FF, we also didn't have sex in the period between ov and a few days ago.

If implantation didn't happen till close to your normal period due date, you could still get a 'period' and still be pregnant. Remember it takes 6 - 12 days for implantation to happen.

Glad you've got a plan, I just hope you can stay sane between now and Monday! you must be feeling so stressed, I know I would in your shoes, but hang in there, you'll get your answers on Monday and we're all rooting for you!

The thing that screws with my head is how has an egg implanted in my uterine lining when I've bled it out. It just doesn't make any sense. I thought the people that had a bleed either had a light one that didn't really turn into anything or else found out the blood was coming from somewhere else.

Sorry I am just talking into the air really as I know there aren't any clear answers right now. I have some more ICs so I guess I'll just keep testing and see if the lines get darker.

Completely understandable and sensible things to be wondering sebs but if there's anything the ladies on this thread know, it's that our bodies love to fuck with us, so don't rule anything out!
Stay strong chick, Monday will be here very soon.

Triple, the heparin is to support the placenta, not blood thinning. I'm normal in that regard. But heparin does something aspirin doesn't to support the placenta and so they want me on it.

Thanks just. I will ask my consultant about it as I am getting the regular rmc testing done whilst I wait for my 2 bleeds to see prof Q. So far all my tests have been normal and I have only been recommended progesterone, which I was on at time of my 2nd mc from ovulation, so I don't think it will help.

Triple, do you know the cause of your last mc? mine was turners and progressed much further than the first two. I was on progesterone and aspirin. Prof Q thinks the progesterone did make a difference, but the outcome was inevitable due to the turners. She also says that it is important that the progesterone is used before implantation, so I start it on day 21. This helps to prepare the lining. Hope this helps.

How are you this morning, Sebs? If you are in striking distance of London, Euston, they have a walk in EPU in clinic 3 of the EGA wing. Its open from 9am. Just turn up and they will scan you (take a book, its first come first served). I cannot recommend them highly
enough for putting your mind at ease. Good luck.

Sorry triple, you said progesterone from ov.

Morning all! and tentative congratulations to sebs - that line is clear as day! My friend who just gave birth to her second had bleeding early on, I don't know how much exactly but it was enough to convince her she'd lost it, so even though it seems impossible sometimes even a heavy bleed is nothing to worry about. Keeping my fingers firmly crossed that this is the case for you!

Hope everyone else is ok. I'm on my phone so just a short post from me.

Sebs, hoping you're feeling ok today and managing not to freak out too much. Really hope you get answers tomorrow.

Thinking of you today Sebs - can't speak highly enough of EPU at UCH, London if you're close enough.

just My second one was a natural mc at 6+3 and I didn't have the opportunity to get it tested. It was doomed to begin with as my beta hcg was not rising (doubling) and at 5+3 I was told to stop the progesterone and I naturally mc then at 6+3. It could have been an early chromosomonal issue which of course the progesterone could not have helped with.

No-one seems to think there is a pattern to my mcs. But I do think so. Hoping prof Q thinks so.