The BESH Fillies Are Under Starters Orders

[CaveMum]

Welcome to the 2.30 from Mumsnet Towers. The fillies have been groomed to within an inch of their lives and are raring to go.

Late entries for the race are required to locate and fill in the BESHtionnaire so that their form can be assessed.

Bring on the stallions!

I almost feel like its a blessing in disguise though aside from the mortification of being too heavy to qualifyI really don't think we've had enough time TTC since MSB was treated. I'm inclined to set a time scale/goal both to lose the weight and to give nature a fighting chance and will then inform them we're ready to go on the waiting list. I guess I need to talk to MSB about that. Fortunately since he is rather 'cuddly' he is very much talking about us doing this together which helps :)

MSB is lovely but at the you're too heavy comment. But I think it is a blessing in disguise!

Since my broken collar bone (remember in Feb) I have failed on the exercise front as well, and my BMI was over 25 for the op, for the first time ever. So I now need to loose some too, before we move into IVF-territory. There will be a few more attempts with IUI and lots of running once I feel well again. We can support each other here. And you can use your mental CD!

Forgot everything on the previous page, so generalised waves!

To be fair, no-one said I'm too heavy, more that the PCT referral criteria says the lady must have a BMI of under 30 to be referred. This is evidence based because IVF is less likely to be successful if you are obese. So I have to show the commitment to lose the weight to be eligible.

When does the ball get rolling for you lemmypie? Is the Next IUI booked?

Okay, I can't read... But I suppose a commitment is okay to ask (I think it is the same here) even if it is alway difficult to hear. And especially in your case as your health generally has taken a big hit these past 6 months or so. Maybe they should focus on getting rid of your pains, I am sure weight will follow suit!

The ball gets rolling again when I've recovered from the lap, I can do another IUI after the next droid (which I suspect is 2 weeks from now, although ovulation signs have been rather unclear with the general bloodiness). Probably will try to get one in, nothing changes as there was nothing untoward inside me

Ok so I hate work today more than I hate celery. Which is a LOT!

Grrrrrr.

If I am not diffed when I start POAS like a mental patient next week I am going to cry (again). al I hear your worky pain. Bollocks to all of it is my advice. No-one ever looked back on their life on their death bed and regretted getting a less than brilliant performance rating at work. So they can all just
Piss
Right
Off
Up
Their
Own
Bums

What do you do kneesup?

Well faitharooney the short answer is work in finance. Which is basically dull but on a good day kind of ok. Problem is so many layers of hierarchy and all the politics (it's a huge organisation) so I turn up to work and do all the things my local bosses tell me to do only to be told at the end of the year that I wasn't doing the things that my ultimate bosses want (people I have zero to do with and are so senior they don't spend time with us minions) so I'm basically doing a shit job. (which my local bosses passionately disagree with). So I'm totally caught in the middle.

Deep joy.

I have bought 2 euro millions tickets to cheer myself up tonight....

Sounds a lot like where I work NHS

Evening BESH. I've just scuttled in from the rain - tis tipping it down here!

Massive boo to work shitness, camel and allypally. It takes up such a portion of our lives that it's awful when it's not going well.

Another huge boo to rubbish consultant an referral news, faith. I swear they are puttin more and more obstacles in the way for ivf because of funding cuts. Round our way they have recently changed the cutoff age to be 34. Given that I'll be 32 this year, and GP won't refer me until December, this does not fill me with joy. But iirc you lost the stone pretty quickly - if you can do it once, you can do it again. And as you say, you can use it as a timetable and something to aim at. Great news on msb's swimmers, too!

Waves to all other BESHes!

Oh and in PantGate update - when I got in tonight he'd put another load on. I got it tumble dried and put it away. 8 pairs of pants! but here's the best part....he just put today's undies...in the washing basket!!!! I'm not sure if he's twigged it was simply me not picking it up but somewhere in that mind a connection is made

well done faif! your behaviour modification techniques would make supernanny proud!

Deffo agree re the weight loss incentive. I can never do it without a very real target to aim for, wedding dress etc.

Camel my work is pretty sh1t at the moment too. There is a lot of uncertainty here. The head of the firm is over from the US today, so we will see what he has to say about it all.

Shred I cannot believe that they are making the IVF cut off 32 in your area . Given how long it takes to try naturally for a while, realise it isn't working and then work your way through the NHS testing system, that is going to rule a hell of a lot of people out.

I feel quite down today. I hate my own useless and diseased foof. :(

Not diseased and useless for long though, I hope, euro. When is treatment?

[sends Euro foof healing vibes] and virtual gin and carrots

I have some brown spotting this morning

Oh no euro not you too? Maybe this eternally shite weather is making bosses grumpy and increasing work woes. Really feel for you about fanj-in-itis. Such bad luck to have to deal with that on top of everything else.

My work place is under 'reconfiguration' and 'transformation' leading my colleague yesterday to refer to it as 'transfiguration' which I believe is what Harry Potter types do to turn themselves into animals?! Anyway, wards closing, staff moving (hopefully not many and only those who want to) but its an unsettling time for all.

MSB and I have set a date of October to aim for me to lose a stone and give a really good crack at TTC now we know his swimmers are ok. I am comfortable with that goal and the time frame for TTC naturally vs the point we'll need to accept it'll be IVF. I don't know what the waiting list is but in this huge shire things tend to be long!

I quite like the idea of turning some of my colleagues into animals, harry potter stylee, faif.

Fanks for bad-bits-aimed anvil.

Norfy the gynae wanted me to book in for LLETZ treatment in 3 weeks, when the IVF drugs should have stopped doing funny things to my cervix. I am really, really not sure about this LLETZ thing. It looks fooking nasty (made the mistake of watching a youtube vid of the treatment) and can have bad effects on ability to carry to term and dilation during labour because it weakens the cervix and leaves scar tissue. Plus it involves slicing and burning my ladybits, which is never appealling. I've done loads of research, read academic articles and so on and it seems that CIN1 is almost never treated. Part of me thinks that having it removed when it is shallow might be better than waiting to see if it progresses. But I need the gynae to explain to me why he thinks this CIN1 should be treated now when that is not usually done. I suspect the HPV 16 result plays into that recommendation but I have found info that suggests that fewer cases of CIN1 with HPV16 regress than without it, but about half still do. So that is a very long winded way of putting that we have booked in an additional appointment next week to just talk things over with him. I don't think my insurance will cover it, but I figure it is worth spending a couple of hundred quid to avoid slashing and burning of my lady bits if possible. frankly with the about I am spending on fertility drs and woo, it is a pish in ocean...

euro perhaps have a wee chat with curly on the PESH thread? She had LLETZ and is now on her 2nd ESH baby. First delivery a little early, but all perfectly normal. :)

Fanks Pone. I'll do that.

My PCT doesn't treat CIN1, like you say. It re-tests you in 6 months time instead. Talking it over again sounds very sensible, even of only to help you understand why they think things should happen differently. I'm another academic article reader...

Yesterday's spotting was brief but this morning my temperature has started to slide and I've had some very strong cramps. I expect droid to start exercising visitation rights shortly.

Norfy I can't help it! I'm applying work methodology to work. I do international disputes work, across a variety of industries. They are huge cases so I tend to immerse myself in one for months at a time, learn loads about an industry and then brain dump it to move on to the next thing. (In the last few years I have become familiar with the finer points of running luxury hotels and how to drill an oil well when you are 100s of kms from the nearest road...) I seem to be doing the same with this. I think I have read enough now to write my own academic paper! The dr is going to hate me when I turn up at the next appointment ready to cross examine him.

Oh Cavey how bloody annoying.

I seem to have no cycle at all since I took the IVF drugs. they were designed to switch everything off so I guess it is normal. But being a worrier, I am anxious to feel ov and for the first time in a couple of years even want to see AF arrive, so that I know my body is back in working order. I have some ov cramps and a weird dull ache in my womble, so I think something is starting to happen down there. The "good" thing about the abnormal cells is that it has really taken my mind off all of the ttc stuff

:( sorry cavey that sucks.

Euro the research is just the way you handle things, you don't want to (effectively) go into battle unarmed I guess. Everything just needs time to settle down and gets sorted. I hope you understand what's going on soon.

Ooof we're 45 minutes early for the wedding (assuming she's on time!) Hotel is 10 mins away and can't book in til 12 with a £10 charge do there's no point so we're just sitting around. Suddenly dreading bring surrounded by pregnant people/people with children :( and can't even have a drink to console myself. Poor me! Sure it'll be fine, its just sitting waiting for it!

Bastard droid, cavey. How long does that make this cycle?

europa, I completely understand. I am the same (but without the high powered legal bit). I feel a need to be able to speak to doctors on their own level - obviously not a goer overall, but broadly possible on a narrow area, with enough research. Womble ache sounds good. Fingers crossed for more signs of returning normality.

Aw, feefee, I bet it'll be easier when it gets going. The anticipation sucks - I always work myself up into a panicky fury in advance of these things too :(

Why can't you hae a drink? Are you driving? Or is it because of medication?