The BESH Fillies Are Under Starters Orders

[CaveMum]

Welcome to the 2.30 from Mumsnet Towers. The fillies have been groomed to within an inch of their lives and are raring to go.

Late entries for the race are required to locate and fill in the BESHtionnaire so that their form can be assessed.

Bring on the stallions!

Aww, poor little mite. from what I know reflux can make baybees feel really rubbish. Glad he's got a disgnosis and on the mend though!

Yes to quote Bridget Jones - It is a truth universally acknowledged that when one part of your life starts going okay, another falls spectacularly to pieces

Shut up pone! I am young and sprightly. I AM!

Poor refluxy little foal. Hopefully he'll be back on his oats soon.

Where are you in the cycle, euro? What happens next?

Hi BESHes!!! Sorry for the AWOL this week - trying to get a billion lazy Year 11s through coursework they should have finished about 6 months ago has meant not much MN time available!

Loving the horsey theme as well, can I introduce POASing Myself Laughing as mine?

Currently having lovely PMS-type cramps, while being at least a week away from estimated Droid. Will NOT symptom spot and fuel the menkul......

Hope everyone else is doing ok, and to the new filly!

Norfy I'm on day 7 of downregging. I have tits like huge things made entirely out of ouch and am on day 3 of period pains with no bleed (which I was quite glad about until yesterday afternoon as it meant the colposcopy could be done). How lovely that the downregging drugs basically give you a whole load of pregnancy symptoms whilst simultaneously throwing you into the menopause . (Yes, I have done a test and it was of course a BFN). Monday week I have my scan which I think is to check that the ovaries are switched off and the womb lining is thin. If all is well, I think I then start the stimming drugs. I take those for 10 days or so, until the eggs are about ready, then I take the trigger shot and have egg collection. I'll be glad to get the drugs out of the fridge frankly, they take up half a shelf and have been there since March!

Pone I'm glad the foal is doing well now.

Weird to admit but I like the word stimming. stimming, stimming it gets stuck in my head! I'm sure the process isn't fun though

I can't stop groping my own buzzwams (v gently). They have never been this big before! I am spilling out of my bras all day and having to take them off in the evenings. KFZK has been informed that he can look but not even think about touching! They were so painful last night they kept me awake as I must have smacked them with my arm or something every time I turned over.

Faith who wouldn't luff a magnetic duck fishing rod, eh?

Honestly, it was the best 2 quid I've ever spent! I wish I was 2 again. Life is so simple at that age. And when things are excited, they're so exciting!

I have the same issue with the buzzwams. In fact I have bras for the latter end of my cycle. I can only sleep in best with bra support the last week before the droid turns up. Sometimes I weirdly find the only comfy way to sleep in on my front. Are you wearing v-neck tops to show them off euro?

[tosses mane and paws at straw]

Well CD43 here and still no sign of ov. I've taken a pregnancy test this morning, as instructed, and it was negative - not that I expected it to say anything else.

A day of cleaning and assignment writing for me today. My assignment is about, and I'm not joking, stallion selection

You have ovaries of steel, woman! Roll on the new drugs, I guess.

I have a tender udder and an odd amount of thin pant snot. CD25.

Ovaries of Steel! Sounds like a Superhero tag line!

Oooo, perhaps that should be the theme for our next fred? Superheroes!

Gah I had a bit of a meltdown last night. My inlaws are staying for a week which is fine and they are lovely people, but I am knackered and sick to death with picking up after them. Neither of them appear to know how to put stuff in the dishwasher and they look at it like it is black magic or something.

What really annoyed me though was that two nights last week I went to bed at just after 9pm. Partly because I wanted to watch something different on TV, partly because my back hurt and partly because I didn't want to sit in the lounge and watch any more fucking football. I am a happy to watch the England matches but my inlaws are die-hard football fans and therefore watch all of them. I never, ever go to sty at their house and make demands on what they watch on their TV, but them come to my house and insist on watching it.

So, my lovely husband criticised me for going to bed early and I lost my rag and got really upset. Now I am left feeling like I am being unreasonable.

It's not like they are unpleasant people, they are lovely but they just do things differently and I think I am hormonal and knackered. Even worse The Mister is working 8am-8pm tonight so it is up to me to entertain all day.

Phew. Sorry about that BESHes, I just needed to let off a bit of steam.

YABU dor we have the same issue with football in our house and we agree that I will watch the England matches but MSB watches all the other matches in another room. You're diffed and exhausted and running round after your in-laws while you're in your parents house! You should be telling him to tell them to make more effort IMO!

cavey they are ovaries of steel indeed. What are you thinking re taking the last course of clomid?

I POAS this morning, BFN. Thought it would be.dont feel any different to any other cycle. Still a bit :( but on the very small bright side at least I have a mooncup to use now!

No no no YANNNNNNBU! Duh!

Oh Dor you are most definitely not bring unreasonable. Is there a pub nearby you can dispatch them to to watch the football? Maybe "accidentally" knock the cable out of the back of your tv?!

As regards my non-ripening ovaries, I'm going to play it by ear. I have just over two weeks until my appointment. If droid turns up in the next week or so, I'll take the tablets, if not I will wait until after the appointment. I'm presuming I won't get anything at this appointment as it is at the main hospital rather than the fertility clinic. If its like last time, I'll then need a second appointment with the nurses at the clinic to get my drugs, etc. The gap between my last two appointments was about 2 months.

Morning fillies!

cavey sorry about the BFN. They're always disheartening even when you fully expect to see them. I took one 2 days ago on CD4 due to very strange 'here one minute then gone the next' droid. So fcked off I can't tell you. Bled on Cd1 then again yesterday briefly but that's it! Bloody buggery idiot body. What's next after clomid?

Dot YADNBU. I'm sick to the back teeth of football (bear in mind we're currently on hold and HY still wants to watch it every night). The rule in our house is definitely all non-England games are watched elsewhere. In-laws however are a law unto themselves IMO. Mine have been known to come into our house when DD is watching something on cbeebies normally to try and avert massive toddler meltdown and turn it over to put sky sports on! Makes my blood boil everytime. Have you played the diffed card with the mister yet ? Even if you were being unreasonable I think diffed-ness trumps everything else!

Morning folks.

I am still in bed, and fully enjoying my first lie in and day off in 7 (seven!) weeks. And GHJ is making me a bacon sandwich.

Dor, the boy would watch every match, but also every bloody televised cricket, golf, snooker, hockey and rugby game. (rugby I don't mind, but sheesh). Fortunately years of moaning have ground him down and it's not the onslaught it could be. And given Scotland are pretty dreadful at football, i'm relatively protected from the Euros. Thank the lord. YADNBU

Cave, what cycle of clomid are you on now? I almost miss it (almost).

CD 72 here... And no news yet about a clinic appt. (I've lost the bets, but pretty sure you're out Faife, you optimistic fool)

I've had 5 cycles of Clomid so far, this is my "WTF cycle" after they got my blood test wrong . Technically I have 1 more go on Clomid (I have the pills), but as the ovulation has not been reliable enough they want to move me on.

I have my appointment next month and the nurse said it was likely I'll be moved onto follicle tracking, which involves different drugs. Not sure if they are tablets or injections, but I'll find out. Then they'll have me in for regular scans to check I'm growing eggs and when one follicle gets big enough they'll inject me to trigger ov and send me off for sechs.

How romantic!

Sounds good, well, maybe not good, but effective!

Are you nhs? I've not anything like that offered to me, and I think we're in a pretty similar position. I think I'm seeing this new clinic for ivf, but maybe they'll throw something like this at me. Not sure how I'll feel about that, I'm sort of psyching myself up for ivf, especially as I have several friends who succeeded on the first attempt.

Should say though, that my previous unit doesn't do folicle tracking or blood tests on clomid, so maybe isn't a centre to be particularly trusted.

That definitely seems like sechs on. schedule cave :(

It is NHS, though I know it differs from authority to authority.

The nurse told me that IVF is a long way off for me at the moment, my problems are with timing (getting the sperm and egg in the right place at the right time) rather than a problem with sperm /egg quality, so IVF would be overkill at this stage! There is always IUI before IVF too.

Fair point. No ones ever talked to me about it beyond giving me clomid. I always thought (assumed) IUI was no use in PCOS, but with tracking etc I don't see why not now I think about it.

So, when I make it to clinic must be pleased, not disappointed, if a non-ivf option is suggested.

The more I learn the more I think my clinic is/was shite.

just marking my place so this thread comes up in my 'threads i'm on' as i do like to keep up with what's going on with you lot.

News here is that the nausea is kicking in, i cried at something daft on the radio in the car earlier and only one pair of my trousers will now do up....

Ward IVF off for as long as possible. It's shit. My buzzwams are calming down slightly (although speedbumps still make me wince) but I appear to have turned into Eeyore. I am utterly miserable. And I keep having the urge to cry - cute toddlers, a dead fox at the roadside, more rain, you name it, it's close to setting me off. I fucking hate being on hormonal drugs. I knew they would do this to me. FFS even the Pill does this to me and these are much stronger. I just don't cope well with artificial hormones.

I really want to stop, but if the cervical stuff means I should have treatment before pregnancy it would be good to have embryos stored.

Cave we were having swi on schedule when I was on Letrozole + tracking scans. It wasn't actually as bad as it might otherwise have been as we were already doing it EOD/every day around ov anyway, so it didn't make much difference.

rollo me too but it's down to chocolate...

cave, I quite enjoyed the scheduled sechs when I was having tracking scans last cycle. After so long having sex every other day through very long cycles, the romance and excitement was, ahem, on the wane anyway, so I sort of saw this as more like medically sanctioned downtime with a shag in the middle. It was a lovely rest.

euro, have you had any advice on how long the hormonal mentalness lasts?