Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake

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Continuation of the last thread.

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your metalling moments. All welcome so come on in and get settled into the plush sofas!

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So settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

The standard 'form' of the thread is the first one on in the morning brings the brekkie!

And this will be a very special thread, it is the one where our first 'graduate' gives us our first bambino Go on IQ give us a twirl if-you can be arsed in your full term state

Congratulations! :)

To both of you! (x post with Grumpus)

In which case gpb it sounds as though a is in order!! Keep us posted and congrats! Fab news!

Ooh...I also x-posted...congrats grumpus

Note to self...must get off MN and do some work!!!

I think I'm just going to bury my head too.... No sore boobs and they were absolutely awful last time so still very unsure and not hopeful.

What everyone doing on this lovely sunny day? Please distract me. I am doing a really good job of pottering i.e bugger all

Ah, Grumpus, I'm exactly the same - I keep poking mine cos that was always my first symptom. Oh well, we'll see. I appear to have become a lot more pragmatic with each pregnancy - all the stressing in the world makes no difference to the outcome so I am Not Stressing. Clearly this is easier said than done.

Today I'm mostly posting on Mumsnet whilst looking at my computer screen pretending to work. I'm also researching new kitchens, corner sinks and the calculation used by structural engineers to calculate the size of RSJ required when knocking down a load bearing wall. We completed on our house on Monday and I'm planning a bit of complete renovation redecorating.

Just popping in to see how pebs is doing, thinking of you

stela so sorry you find yourself in this position. My GP took pity on me after 2 early MCs and referred me for some basic tests. Many of the tests are similar to the ones they do if you are having trouble TTC so it may be given your age you qualify if you have been trying for over 6 months.

Your thyroid could very well be causing an issues, are you seeing an endo?

I ended up going to see St Mary's privately, they accepted most of the tests my GP had done so only did the extra ones specialise in and a scan. All in it cost £1000, so a significant investment but they did find the problem (I think/hope) we will see how this pregnancy goes!

grand and Grumpus huge congrats

farfalla fingers crossed, im sure that's a small price to pay for (hopefully) some reassurance. Hope they were good to you there.

grand that sounds all very exciting,well done for getting to completion! We've just moved, the kitchen wall is going to go so I think kitchen design might be on the menu for me too (once I get up off my arse). I'm back at work on Saturday (very early) morning. I'm sure it will distract me. I think I might go for a swim too,might help with the stressy brain. I can't mn on the work computers unfortunately, 12 long hours of pretending to work.

I've had really vivid dreams for the last few night and have been falling asleep at 8pm but nothing like last time so I'm jumping on the pragmatism bus too.

This thread is truly something when it comes to bfp's! I wonder why?! Must be all the tit out, PMA... or something?

Many congrats to grand and grump!

My cousin has her NT scan today for her fifth baby (got four girls so as much as they're protesting they want a healthy baby they're protesting just a tad too heartily (and nobody is really saying 'I expect you want a boy?')) and I have an awful anxious feeling in my stomach - just hoping the baby is, y'know, there.

I think I feel worse than when I went in for my viability scan with this baby. Ok, so I know I was in complete denial to protect myself but it's odd! You know what I really think it is: the whole 1 in 4 or 5 pregnancies end in mc stat - with DS3, my fourth pregnancy, from the very beginning I had a feeling that I was pushing my luck after three healthy children and that it was my turn to be a 'stat'. As this is her fifth, I think that same doom and gloom feeling is creeping in.

Jeez, manda way to make someone elses life ALL ABOUT ME!

marff wrinkles or no, I luffs ya!

pebs holding you tight in my thoughts.

manda fanx! i know what you mean about your cousin. it is odd isnt it that you really want them to be ok but you get a little bit at them's who blithely go through pregnancy presuming it will be fine, coz like, it doesnt happen to mememe. FX she is ok though.

AF cramps really taking the piss now it is my last day in work today for the weekend so will crack open the tonight. am going to be good this month, will drink wine like a lush for the next week and a half then jump on DH four nights running and then eat and drink like a saint for the 2WW

grand and grumpus yay for TLPs!!! this is a truly lucky-ish kind of thread

Thinking of you today pebs, and congrats to grand and grump!

14DPO. AF knickerwatch begins (why yes, my almost obsessive refusal to POAS until I am actually late is probably now getting more mental than those who start POAS mid-cycle...). I have been unbelievably tired for the last couple of days, but that could just be being the mother of a two-year-old...

i am back. nothing had changed since last week so i am going for the erpc tomorrow.

i am having an appointment with my consultant in two weeks to find out what i can do next. the epu nurse didn't know about st marys in london, she said i will be better going to liverpool but i know they don't do the TEG test which has shown up results for lots of other people. they do the natural killer cells test though i think which they don't do at st marys.

i will see what my consultant says at the appointment.

i thought they would be able to test the babies after erpc to see if there was anything wrong with them. the nurse said they wouldn't. i am going to dig out my book and see what it says in there about it. i am sure it says you should always push for testing on this. she is going to ask my consultant as well to check.

the epu nurse was really nice, she is one i have seen quite a lot in the past and she helped me when i had my first mc. she reassured me about the GA so i feel a bit better about it. she is going to arrange some medication to relax me before the op.

i am just going to relax this afternoon, i feel a lot less anxious now as i know what is happening. my dh has gone to work so i can just chill out on my own.

congrats to the bfps - hope i am joining you again soon.

pebs I am so very very sorry to hear your news and I really hope the next few days are not too brutal for you, we are all thinking of you here and holding your hand.

You should absolutely push for testing on the babies, and I thought that was standard after 3 losses, especially given how late you are losing them. :( :(

Pebs I'm so, so, sorry.
Now isn't the time, but in my constant obsessive trawl through the internet on testing matters, i've come across a harley street clinic that seems to do both killer cell and teg tests which might be a third option if you are less poor than me....maybe next week when you are over the op we can exchange notes on it before you see the consultant. Rest up today.

Oh, I'm so sorry pebs. Glad to hear the nurse was nice, and I hope you can push for all the tests you need for reassurance. Have a good rest and look after yourself.

So sorry pebs I am in tears for you. It's not fair.

Oh I'm so sorry pebs, my thoughts are with you. Xx

pebs I am so sorry to hear this but glad that you are feeling as ok as you can. It sounded as though you had already prepared yourself which hopefully helped. I really hope the erpc goes as well as it can. I'm glad for you that you are able to go for the op tomorrow so that the waiting is minimal. It must feel like you've even waiting for ages to get to this point. Really hope your consultant helps and can answer any queries. I don't know about testing I'm afraid. I'm useless,I didn't ask any questions and came away completely clueless. Hopefully the GA will give your body time to relax,I felt fine shortly afterwards. My bleeding stopped within two days and the only side effect was that I was a bit teary straight afterwards. Relaxing this afternoon sounds great, I think ice cream is called for. Fingers crossed for bfp for you soon too x

leedy fingers crossed! You're so restrained! Tiredness sounds promising...

martha I'll take some too,I'm still not convinced!! I'm sorry about naughty AF cramps,that is rubbish. Vino sounds awesome tonight,relax and enjoy your days off.

pebs so sorry. I know it sounds odd but I also feel really teary but at work so trying not to blub. As soon as I has recurrent losses I was offered genetic testing on the 'products' removed from the ERPC. Can also tell you my experience of St Mary's when you are ready. I wish I could do more than send virtual hugs. X

thanks for the messages guys - try not to cry for me.

i am not sure if the nurse just didn't know about testing on the 'products' (what a phrase eh!) she didn't seem to know about it and said that because me and dh had had our karyotyping and all was ok the products wouldn't need testing -wtf??

she was going to ask my consultant anyway. i need to read my book to find out what i should be asking for but it's upstairs and i can't be bothered moving off the settee. really must go and get it....

let me know about that clinic boris. i don't mind paying if i am going to get something good. i have had the karyotyping tests which are probably the most expensive tests so i would hope its a bit cheaper for me.

Oh pebs so so sorry to read your news but glad they could book you in tomorrow for the erpc so that you don't have to wait any longer before getting things more sorted. I also thought it was routine to send everything off for testing (I thought we were offered this but not sure, maybe it was other Q's about what we were happy for them to do with what they removed, not sure now ). Make sure you rest well, I also bled on and off for a few days post erpc and then spotted for a while but don't remember being in much (if any) pain which was good. The emotional side of it all hits at odd and strange times though so try not to such back to work etc. Thinking of you lots...

What a palaver! Not been on for a while - since the last MC it's been one thing after another, DH ill for a week, then DS2 had a sickness bug and then I completely lost my voice (now it's coming back and I have that nice sexy husky edge at the moment ). Haven't caught up with the thread yet but :( for you pebs

Well I have been SWIing, not that I know whether I am OVing or not (highly doubtful based on past experience), but worth a shot right? Will keep it up as long as I can manage and I guess if AF fails to show after a few weeks, I'll do a test, take my Provera for a few days to make me bleed then try the Clomid again.

Am a bit that when I was at the hospital where I was given a prescription for Clomid, and I asked about getting more (nearly run out), they said I'd have to be referred back to them by my GP. Why the hell someone else didn't pick up my fertility nurse's caseload when she left is beyond me. Wonder if the GP can prescribe it for me without going through the faff of all the investigations and scans again - seems a massive waste of time and resources when I know what the problem is!! Gaaaahhh.

There is a basic test they do after erpc to check for molar pregnancy. I want genetic testing to see if there was anything wrong with the babies. They were identical so if there was something wrong it would be with both of them.
The nurse doesn't think it will be done but she is going to ask my consultant.

In the Lesley regan book it says you should have testing to rule out a chance miscarriage rather than a recurrent problem.

I will see what happens tomorrow.

I am so sorry Pebs. Such sad news. I hope you can get all the testing possible. Will be thinking of you tomorrow. I hope it goes smoothly.

I am having a bad time here with my DD. She has had a really bad bout of sickness and diahorrea, and is dehydrated. Took her to the GP who said she would need to be put on a drip in hospital if things didn't improve. Thankfully they have, and I am force feeding her drinks and diorite, but it is so horrible. She is having horrid diahorrea that the nappies can't cope with. I hate, hate seeing her like this. She is normally on the rampage, and very chatty. She is so quiet and tired.

Congrats on the BFPs!