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TTC for 10+ months, part 5

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MuddyWellyNelly · 18/01/2012 20:51

Filled up our old one, I'll put our updated list on a separate post so that it's not a huge chunk of text at the top of every page.

Old thread here. Newbies always welcome, much as we'd like to hope nobody ever gets to this stage of TTC!

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MuddyWellyNelly · 18/01/2012 21:05

First off, putting the list on page 1 so we know where to find it!

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

Nelly ttc 17 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 34, both SA all within normal ranges. Unexplained so far, need to get to the doctor asap to get a referral sorted. Normal-ish cycles but they are quite short, although LP seems ok.

Pixiepops ttc 13 months (currently on cycle 15), me 35 - ultrasound, hsg & blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Currently on month 2 of clomid, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!

LemonDrizzle ttc 18 months, both 33; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA much improved. Next step is IUI in Feb/March

Gin ttc 18 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine, no other tests as of yet. DH's two SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal forms and crap morphology. Urologist said ICSI was the only chance of us being able to have a baby. Our PCT won't fund any IVF, despite the fact we meet all the criteria. DH has an ultrasound on his bits next week and we then both have to go back to the urologist in late Feb for the results and to discuss next steps. We would like to have a go at ICSI at some point this year, if we can find the money...

cakes82 ttc 15 months, married 20 months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory, bloods done not really sure if all ok. HSG done and all seems fine. Depending on consultants opinion, possible diagnosis of PCOS and being prescribed Clomid. See consultant Feb/March.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before accupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!) And now a BFP

ladygee ttc 13 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. On NHS waiting list (13 months). Starting self-funded ICSI at the end of Jan 2012

euro ttc for 15 cycles and was casual with contraception for a couple of years before that. Me 35, Husband 36. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Officially diagnosed with "unexplained infertility". Now awaiting NHS IVF. In the meantime I am seeing a private gynae for immunology testing, which has found high NK cells. I am now taking steroid treatment after ovulation to try to suppress NK cell activity. The private gynae has also prescribed Letrozole and a HCG shot to give ovulation a boost and try to speed things up. I'm on the second cycle of trying these treatments now.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 34. TTC #1, on cycle 16. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). Third one morphology disastrous (

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Karbea · 18/01/2012 21:18

Updated my bit, god there are a lot of us now!!!! Come on girls we need some BFPs!!!!

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

Nelly ttc 17 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 34, both SA all within normal ranges. Unexplained so far, need to get to the doctor asap to get a referral sorted. Normal-ish cycles but they are quite short, although LP seems ok.

Pixiepops ttc 13 months (currently on cycle 15), me 35 - ultrasound, hsg & blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Currently on month 2 of clomid, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 15 months, me 38 - blood tests all ok (twice, 2nd time they'd improved). DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means), 2nd set were very poor (ICSI the only way forward). Using ARGC for IVF(ICSI). Currently in monitoring cycle, midcycle scan (19/01/12).

LemonDrizzle ttc 18 months, both 33; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA much improved. Next step is IUI in Feb/March

Gin ttc 18 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine, no other tests as of yet. DH's two SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal forms and crap morphology. Urologist said ICSI was the only chance of us being able to have a baby. Our PCT won't fund any IVF, despite the fact we meet all the criteria. DH has an ultrasound on his bits next week and we then both have to go back to the urologist in late Feb for the results and to discuss next steps. We would like to have a go at ICSI at some point this year, if we can find the money...

cakes82 ttc 15 months, married 20 months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory, bloods done not really sure if all ok. HSG done and all seems fine. Depending on consultants opinion, possible diagnosis of PCOS and being prescribed Clomid. See consultant Feb/March.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before accupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!) And now a BFP

ladygee ttc 13 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. On NHS waiting list (13 months). Starting self-funded ICSI at the end of Jan 2012

euro ttc for 15 cycles and was casual with contraception for a couple of years before that. Me 35, Husband 36. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Officially diagnosed with "unexplained infertility". Now awaiting NHS IVF. In the meantime I am seeing a private gynae for immunology testing, which has found high NK cells. I am now taking steroid treatment after ovulation to try to suppress NK cell activity. The private gynae has also prescribed Letrozole and a HCG shot to give ovulation a boost and try to speed things up. I'm on the second cycle of trying these treatments now.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 34. TTC #1, on cycle 16. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). Third one morphology disastrous (

whatmess · 18/01/2012 21:26

Hello Izzy, nice to meet you.

Thanks for setting up the new thread Nelly
How do I go about adding myself to the list. Should I just copy and repost.

whatmess ME 34, DH31 ttc #2 for 12mths now following a MC this time last year. Diagnosed with PCO and possible endometriosis in Nov. Cycles can be anything from 37 to 81 days apart. I'm currently waiting for surgery on the ovaries (booked in for March). Not on any medication and haven't been offered any at any point. Mr Mess is 31 and passed all the relevant fertility tests.

Stasi · 18/01/2012 21:56

Marking my place. Thanks for making the new plthread nelly

whatmess · 19/01/2012 07:57

Oops must have ex-post with Karbea

Here goes

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

Nelly ttc 17 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 34, both SA all within normal ranges. Unexplained so far, need to get to the doctor asap to get a referral sorted. Normal-ish cycles but they are quite short, although LP seems ok.

Pixiepops ttc 13 months (currently on cycle 15), me 35 - ultrasound, hsg & blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Currently on month 2 of clomid, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 15 months, me 38 - blood tests all ok (twice, 2nd time they'd improved). DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means), 2nd set were very poor (ICSI the only way forward). Using ARGC for IVF(ICSI). Currently in monitoring cycle, midcycle scan (19/01/12).

LemonDrizzle ttc 18 months, both 33; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA much improved. Next step is IUI in Feb/March

Gin ttc 18 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine, no other tests as of yet. DH's two SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal forms and crap morphology. Urologist said ICSI was the only chance of us being able to have a baby. Our PCT won't fund any IVF, despite the fact we meet all the criteria. DH has an ultrasound on his bits next week and we then both have to go back to the urologist in late Feb for the results and to discuss next steps. We would like to have a go at ICSI at some point this year, if we can find the money...

cakes82 ttc 15 months, married 20 months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory, bloods done not really sure if all ok. HSG done and all seems fine. Depending on consultants opinion, possible diagnosis of PCOS and being prescribed Clomid. See consultant Feb/March.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before acupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!) And now a BFP

ladygee ttc 13 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. On NHS waiting list (13 months). Starting self-funded ICSI at the end of Jan 2012

euro ttc for 15 cycles and was casual with contraception for a couple of years before that. Me 35, Husband 36. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Officially diagnosed with "unexplained infertility". Now awaiting NHS IVF. In the meantime I am seeing a private gynae for immunology testing, which has found high NK cells. I am now taking steroid treatment after ovulation to try to suppress NK cell activity. The private gynae has also prescribed Letrozole and a HCG shot to give ovulation a boost and try to speed things up. I'm on the second cycle of trying these treatments now.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 34. TTC #1, on cycle 16. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). Third one morphology disastrous (

eurochick · 19/01/2012 10:29

A new thread!

It is a shame in one way that we have been here long enough to fuel 5 threads but I am so glad to have had you all there along the way.

Karbea · 19/01/2012 10:51

Back from scan.... didn't realise it was an internal scan... anyway... it went well, he said everything looked nice and i'll be ovulating from my right side this month. Need to poas until I ov then give them a call.
I also had another blood test and decided to have the immunolgy tests done, so i'm 14 vials of blood lighter!
So i'll get the estrodial (sp?) results this afternoon, and the rest in about 3 weeks.
The doctor said if anything comes back in the immunology(sp?) then it could delay things and we might end up starting in March. So if all is ok, looks like its going to be very soon!

Stasi · 19/01/2012 11:06

Karbea sounds like things are moving quickly now. Are you getting the tests done privately? I didn't think they did the immunology ones on the NHS, which is why I ask. Glad the scan went well.

I got my appointment through this morning for the HSG. They had said it was about a 3 month waiting list to get it, but my appointment is on 16th Feb. I'm sort of looking forward to it, at least, getting it out of the way and seeing what the results are. My follow up appointment to talk about the results isn't until May I think though, so if there is a problem I'll have to wait that long to talk about it. One step at a time though, lets get it done and see what happens.

Karbea · 19/01/2012 12:34

Stasi as DH and I are old, we are doing it all privately as the NHS won't pay for us. I had to pay £950 today, I joked to the lady paid that I could have got myself some nice Louboutins, she said hopefully my Louboutin days are numbered! haha!

eurochick · 19/01/2012 12:40

karbea I will be interested to see your results. They took about an arm's worth from me when I had my tests too!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 19/01/2012 13:56

Afternoon lovely ladies!

Moving very fast karbea, be curious to hear the immunology results. Fingers crossed it is all okay.

Quick wave to the others and agree with euro about a shame to fill 5 threads but better to share the journey.

Right - I just had a lovely lunch date with a friend, which somehow dissolved my inner peace and I wailed over coffee. Perhaps that had something to do with her being 12 wks pg and telling me. And I was banking on her not trying yet. She was lovely and had already thought we might be trying. She seemed to be impressively good with my crying and stories of treatments and tests. So maybe she can stay on the friends list. But I am not sure. I am particularly tetchy about pregnancies at the moment... But I told her, and I told her I might avoid her, and she said she just hoped we could sometimes see eachother and have coffee, but she understood if I couldn't. So that was good. Quite impressed with her, especially comparing to some of the recent stories we've had on here, but still. Bloody hell, it is OUR turn...

kittysaysmiaow · 19/01/2012 14:22

Apols in advance for monster post.

nelly thank you for setting up a lovely new home for us. How is the symptom spotting going?

gin sorry about your bad experience with the smear. I have to book mine, ack. Tried to book with my GP but apparently they don?t have a nurse at the moment so arent doing any, so I have to go to the local FP clinic instead, joy Confused

Izzy hope your back gets better soon.

pout I am so sorry about your mum. What a nightmare she has been about the wedding. I don?t really feel that I can say anything helpful but will just add my admiration for the sane and restrained way you deal with her. As for my DPO when I know when it?s all over ? it?s usually about 9DPO, I can just tell AF is on her way. Then at 10DPO I usually have a day of feeling utterly despondent, then a couple of days of nothing much before cramps and tiredness and ?heaviness?- then spotting and then AF arrives 16DPO. It?s the same every month :( I also don?t get when your body ?knows? its pregnant, some people swear to god they have symptoms from straight after ov don?t they, but I can?t understand how that would work.

mrsd glad you are feeling better and that your DH understood about telling your friend.

ladygee fatima and euro really enjoying your posts about gearing up for IVF. I can definitely feel some BFPs in the air. euro my NHS hospital has poor results too. It sounds like yours is definitely getting its act together though which is good.

fatima is AF here yet?

lemons exciting about IUI, that?s great. There seems to be a lot of variation as to whether it?s offered or not doesn?t there? Just seen your post about your friend. Sorry. Well done for being honest and telling her you might not be able to see her so much, and it sounds like she reacted ok to it. You need to put your own needs first and if that means not seeing people as much, then that?s what has to happen. Better that than feeling upset and miserable after spending hours pretending to be ok in the company of pregnant people.

joycep I hope you stop feeling groggy! It?s probably your body adjusting to the changes in your diet. That is interesting about the Queen Mother, I expect 3 years seemed like a very long time back then. And poor Ant and his wife. They are probably in a similar place to all of us :(

whatmess I?m sorry to hear about your Dad?s illness, how is he?

Waves to pixie stasi cakes and everyone I have missed. Lastly wine not heard from you for a couple of days, how are you doing lady? Hope you are not in too much pain.

CD 6 here. Approaching the start of shag week. I?m in ?what on earth is the point? mode at the moment, feeling like I wish we could just crack on with IVF as it?s never going to happen naturally. Still making a lot of soup and veggie stuff to boost things naturally, which is fine. And havent had a drink since NYE, which is really not fine at all. But keep telling myself that if my IVF referrral moves unexpectedly quickly a la Euro, at least I will be in a healthy place.

Karbea · 19/01/2012 14:46

Aww Kitty I felt the same (what's the point), don't you remember me saying I felt like we weren't actually trying anymore, being healthy is a good thing to do anyway, and lots of people do in January :-)

Well I just had the call, so I'm to start ov detection and need to call them when I surge and then i'll be in for progesterone tests 4-6days after that. Feel like I should change my name to pincushion!

eurochick · 19/01/2012 15:10

I know that feeling kitty!

I will be following just behind you this month - I'm on CD5.

Keeping healthy is good. I have only had a couple of nights where I have drunk anything since NYE, which is good for me (I love wine!). And I am being better about exercising regularly than I was towards the end of last year.

ladygee · 19/01/2012 15:22

Ooh a shiny new thread. Thanks nelly

Will pop back later - just marking my place

Abbicob · 19/01/2012 15:26

Please can I join - not been on one of these before but not having much luck TTC

Abbicob ME 39, DH33 ttc #2 for 13mths now - went to doctors and have a blood test booked on the 27th Jan to see if I am still ovulating. So hope I have not left it too late for a second baby Sad

Stasi · 19/01/2012 16:37

Abbicob you are very welcome here, though I'm sorry you've been trying so long. How old is your first DC? Are you still breast feeding? I hope your blood tests all come back with nice positive results.

Karbea I thought the cut off was 40 or over, I guess it's different for each area. You're not too old for a baby, I don't know why they won't fund you. Feeling a little annoyed on your behalf! I'm glad things are moving quickly with your IVF though, we'll have to wait 18 months for ours, and can't fund our own cycle without losing a funded one.

Lemon glad you had a nice talk with your friend, and that she behaved very well about the whole thing! It will be a shame if you can't handle being around her during her pg, as she sounds like she could be a good source of support. You do have to think about your self though, and it's nice that she understands why you might be more distant. I really hope you get your BFP soon, and soon enough to share some of your pg with your friend.

kitty it sounds like you're doing really well with being healthy for the new year. There is always a chance of an unexpected natural BFP. It only takes one sperm to get through. I hope the next few weeks go quickly for you though, and that your appointment comes round very soon.

As I think I said before, I'm feeling quite positive this month. I don't think it's very logical, but being told we've got "mild male factor" has made me feel like it will be ok. That there's still a chance of a natural BFP, and it's not insurmountable. 15 months seems like less time somehow - if there was nothing wrong with either of us 15 months is something to worry about, but as there is something wrong, it's less of a worry, because it's "normal" for it to take longer for us. I don't know if that makes sense.

ladygee · 19/01/2012 17:04

Karbea - Glad everything went well at your appt. Hope you feel ok after being relieved of all that blood! Fingers crossed all the immunology tests come back fine for you too

Stasi ? that?s great that your appt is earlier than you thought. I don?t know how it works where you usually find out there and then if everything?s ok and maybe they?ll bring your follow up appt forward too?

Even better that you?re feeling positive ? I can see your logic and think it?s good reasoning. Our friends took 18 months to conceive their little girl, they had their first appt at the hospital and then found out they were pregnant a week or two after. I don?t know exactly what the problem was but I know that they started trying again pretty much as soon as she was born as they knew it would take them a little longer than ?normal?.

Lemon ? I?m glad your friend was good about it all and showed more understanding than some others have recently!

Kitty ? I know what you mean when you start wondering what the point is. Just before Christmas we almost just gave up on SWI. Now we can?t anyway, which in some way is a bit of a relief? Getting yourself in good shape is the best thing you can do and it sounds like you?re doing that in style already.

Welcome abbicob sorry you find yourself here but you?ll find lots of support here until you get your BFP.

I?ve got myself in a bit of a bad place today ? overthinking things. Last month I had pains on my right side, around my ovary, pretty much for the last two weeks of my cycle. I called the clinic and they said it was probably a cyst, everyone gets them from time to time and it would go with AF. The pain did go with AF but then today (CD12) I?ve started with really horrid pain, worse than last month, in the same place ? feels like my ovary wants to burst out or something. I?m hoping this isn?t the start of anything bad. I think I?ll ring the clinic again in the morning. I just don?t want them to think I?m a pest when I haven?t even started treatment yet!

kittysaysmiaow · 19/01/2012 18:21

ladygee sorry to hear about the pain. I've had months where I've had a lot of ovulation pain and it can be horrid. Try not to worry too much though, I think it's pretty common and doesn't mean anything is wrong.

Karbea grrr about the pct saying you are too old! My acu lady was telling me before that one of her patients had just got pregnant naturally and she is 43.

Welcome abbicob

MuddyWellyNelly · 19/01/2012 18:54

Stasi I don't think everywhere is the same. I'm sure I've read Scotland is 38, which is a little annoying as I've only got just over 6 months in that case. And bugger, forgot to call the doctor again today.

ladygee I get some sharp ovulation pains but they don't last long, then I get general rumblings on and off until ERTD arrives.

Glad you had a good chat with your friend lemon and you may find that you end up seeing more of her, because you don't feel like you have to hide things from her. Either way though, good that she didn't get all me me me about it!

Hello to abbicob welcome to our slightly insane gang Wink

kitty and others who asked, symptom spotting appears to have tailed off. Metallic taste in mouth has all but disappeared, which makes me think it was probably the wine that I had some of on Sunday and Monday night. I've not had for the last couple of nights, there is still some left, so perhaps I'll have a glass tonight and see if it is back tomorrow. In the interests of science, you understand.

Very slightly dodgy bowel is still ongoing mind you Blush, but that could be caused by anything! Nothing other than that, I'm about 9 or 10 DPO (probably, but not sure exactly), the good news is no spotting as yet. I reckon going by most months, spotting will have started by Sunday at the latest.

I was chatting to my sister about my wedding dress yesterday, and emailed her some links of styles etc. She agreed they would suit my slim build, but as she knows all about our TTC woes, and has been there herself, I also mentioned that of course anything could happen in 11 months. So I won't ask my Mum to start making a dress until September, and will have 2 styles in mind! It does however also mean we can't really book a honeymoon until about June, and would have to avoid malaria areas etc I presume, which is a shame as Africa was one of the places on our possible list. Although I guess if we booked something that was cancellable (is that a word?!) that might be ok? I'm certainly not planning on restricting things "just in case" but just keeping my options open.

Hello to everyone else I've not name checked. IVF is approaching very quickly for some of you. I too sense some BFPs soon :)

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cakes82 · 19/01/2012 18:55

Evening all
Karbea did your Dr say what the estradiol test was for? I just wonder cause my consultant added test as an almost after thought.

Stasi most probably you'll find out results of HSG on day as long as your hospital has the facilities to do so. It looks like 2/3 months is a possible standard time between HSG and next appt as they like to give you time just in case. I think its linked with the possibility its enough to clear out small blockages and do the trick.

Are you feeling better ladygee?

cakes82 · 19/01/2012 19:00

Nelly you don't have to avoid Africa totally you just have to be more selective. For Example South Africa- Kruger National Park on the East side of the country is a malarial area, whereas Pretoria (which is West of Kruger) isn't malarial. Then if you keep going West and South to Cape Town that also doesn't have malaria and there are still game reserves close to Cape Town.

Karbea · 19/01/2012 19:08

cakes info about estradiol [http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003711.htm]

Karbea · 19/01/2012 19:14

Ooo nelly you should mix your safari with a week in Mauritius! Stay at the oberoi!!!!

cakes82 · 19/01/2012 19:51

Thanks for that Karbea would it be fair to say its checking your ovaries and uterus work properly?

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