Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling or settle yourself down in our padded cell. All welcome! (Part 19)

[Poppyjen]

Another new thread for some more serious metalling - we really are a chatty lot!

Here's to making it through the WTF cycle(s), metalling* like a teenager from the early '90s in the 2WW, BFP colds and other classic symptom spotting and hiding in the (nice and comfy) padded cell post BFP

If you have miscarried and are ready to TTC again, come and join us!

• For those currently wondering what our mosh pit antics have to do with ttc post MC, a fabulous typo in an earlier thread resulted in "mentalling" becoming known as "Metalling" - a far more fitting expression I am sure you will agree!

Welcome!

crystal I had a mmc in november, first AF afterwards was 23/12 and now BFP We've never actively ttc before,but I've managed to get pregnant twice already (have one ds 15mo) within 2/3 cycles. I'm very lucky. DP thinks its his amazing sperm

Congratulations newton!

And I love to hear positive stories about bfp's appearing quickly after a mc. I want one of those!

Thanks newton that's cheered me up a bit, gives me some hope, my first AF since mc has arrived so fingers crossed for next month!! :-)

Congrats newton on being in the family way. Told you.

I'm donning my Full Metal Jacket on the eve of my appointment of doom.

Here is my list of questions. Anyone want to suggest anything or refine anything, please feel free. I'm basing it on the idea that the consultant will pretty much speak first and tell us what they looked for and what they found....obviously that may be nothing and all questions won't apply in all situations, it depends what is said. IE if they say 'you got an infection, this one, bad luck, won't happen again' then there's not much point asking about the structure of my uterus.

Is it possible that there is a structural problem with my uterus/ovarian cysts? How can this be diagnosed and is there any treatment for it?

Does the order of events (PPROM first, baby demise, closed cervix, induction, etc) mean anything?

Was it the lack of fluid which caused the baby to die? Or something else?

Do my light, short periods have anything to do with this? What did the pre-MC bleeding mean, no reason was ever found?

If there is no underlying condition, does the mere fact of the MCs make me more likely to have either an early or late MC in the future? Specifically MMCs as both could be described as that. If I am higher risk for MMCs is there anything that can help with that and....

Is this something that will affect further pregnancies?

What additional care will I be offered in future pregnancies?

How would any future pregnancies be considered in terms of risk?

Should I carry a baby past the second trimester in the future, how would that affect the assessment of risk? (Asking because I don't want anything high risk stamped on my notes that might affect me doing what the fuck I like in labour, if I ever get there)

Could this have been prevented?

What was the sex of the baby?

I'm pregnant. Can I have a scan?

Hello.

Congratulations Newton, fabulous news.

Mscoffee good luck tomorrow. What time is your appointment? I think you have a good set of questions. Cannot think of any more.

I have been given the news I expected. The baby is measuring less than 5 weeks, is likely to miscarry, if not, I have an appointment in 2 weeks for another scan. I get more bloods back tomorrow, but ones that were done this week were checked for progesterone as well, and that was lower than it should be. Only good thing is that it us not ectopic. Just so very sad to lose this baby. I wished and wished at Christmas to be pregnant again, and here we are again. It is such a horrible limbo too. There is a part of me that wants it to be over, and there is another part that wants to spend this tiny bit of time with my baby.

Oh jaffa I wish and wish for you too. And I understand the limbo is awful. Please be very very kind to yourself. Can you plan something lovely for sometime next month to give yourself something to look forward to?

Appointment is lunchtime, in the mat assessment unit, although I'm told I'll be given a private room (three months too late to be fair, but there you go)

Everything crossed I don't find out I'm going to lose another in that private room. Ahhhhh my heart's beating too fast again

missC good luck with your appointment we will all be in that room with you in spirit and if you need to discuss things afterwards we are here{{big squashy hug}}

jaffa so sorry that things dont look any better so gutted for you

hi to everyone else

Thinking of you jaffa, look after yourself xxx

Good luck tomorrow misscoffee will be thinking of you xx

Anybody else just watch OBEM?

Oh jaffa so so sorry...I remember the limbo time between scans and wondering what would happen and if it would happen and it's so horrible...so sorry you have to go through this.

misscoffee the questions look good, try and stay as positive as you can, if you can and see if you can get some sleep tonight though I suspect that may be asking a bit much thinking of you for tomorrow and especially hoping for news which is not adverse for your current little bean hiding away inside you at the moment!!!

pie hang in there...you're doing well! I also started off this time about a stone heavier than I wanted to be after comfort eating my way through my first trimester before the mmc, then comfort eating waaaay more whilst I dealt with the mmc and aftermath and although I didn't out too much on during the first trimester this time the damage was already done and now it's kinda onwards and upwards iykwim. But ...my priority is a healthy bean and then I will just ave to crack on with some exercise and more healthy eating I just fancy chocolate and cake most of the time at the moment

Right, off to bed so sleep well all

Augh I would just about kill for a brandy just about now.

Note to self: if this ever happens again no TTC before the appointment not because of Danger of Death for bean but for my own alcoholic indulgences and fraught nerves!

You know there are some people who just get pregnant and have a baby???

Jaffa I'm so sorry, it's such a time of limbo waiting for scans x

coffee your questions seem to cover everything, will be thinking of you

crystal I got pg in second cycle after mc with ds3, I then became pg within two months of ds3 being born, so think maybe there is something about being more fertile after pg, mc, for some people anyway. Before that it always took me over a year to conceive

I've given up waiting for consultant appointment, it's now been 9 days since I spoke to the consultants secretary. I'm dreading it comming through and the date being when Jacob was due, it would be just my luck! Can't believe its been nearly 18 weeks and still no appointment

coffee it seems unreal that for most people pg is so simple, I seem to develope a new problem every time , although I'm very lucky that I have managed to have children dispite it

newton so chuffed for you! Congratulations Go on, girl, send us some preggie vibes this way.

AF hasn't arrived for me yet. It's 4 day late now but I am pretty sure I'm not pg. I don't feel anything, no AF symptoms, no pg symptoms, nothing.I think I've become a cyborg!

Will let you know result if I POAS later today.

MissC You'll be in my thoughts today... Hope it goes as well as it can do.. And that you get an early scan to sweeten the moment!

Maja POAS yet??!

Kels, just POASed & BPN again...ah well, was kind of expecting it. It will be us soon, girlfriend!
I am looking on the bright side & enjoying this mug of strong black coffee & thinking of the curry & wine night I've got scheduled with the girls on Saturday :)

Just wanted to jump on and wish coffee good luck for today. Will be thinking of you.

jaffa so sorry to hear you're having to now wait again to find out. Look after yourself, thinking of you also

maja & kel my poas buddies....crossing my fingers for next month for you. Have a wine for me please! X

jaffa sending you the hugs, as my sister said when i had my MC - 'It is all just shite'

MsC thinking of you today, am in that room with you holding your hand

I havent heard from the dox yet about my bloods, although she did say it would be two weeks (which was two weeks ago ) so any day now i guess

Holding you in my thoughts, missC

jaffa still thinking of you, too. 'Good' news it's not ectopic but still so sorry all the same.

Jaffa I am so so sorry but it sounds like there might be some hope still? Keeping everything crossed

coffee thinking of you lots as well

Waves at everyone.

p.s. my first progesterone has come back from my blood test at 5dpo and it was 42. Sooo happy , its the highest its ever been. Have 2 more scheduled at 7 and 9dpo so we shall see. If had not had absolutely no SWI this month I would be convincing myself I was pregnant! Hooray for B vits though

majo sorry about the bfn, fingers crossed for next month

Newton don't know if I've allready said congratulations !

farfalla I know nothing about progesterone, but as your happy I assume it's a good thing so very pleased for you

Consultant appointment arrived today, it's the week before Jacob was due, so not so bad. Although the 19 week wait has been a bit like torture

So now I'm going to be constantly thinking about what questions I should ask.

Thinking of Jaffa and MsC

MissC thinking of you today - hope appt goes as well as possible and that you get the answers to your well prepared questions. Perhaps worth asking whether there is anything you can do to avoid MC (not specifically 2nd tri just MC in general), like taking specific vits etc... Let us know how you get on. Hope it is not too emotional for you.

Moominsarescary that is ridiculous having to wai to so long for appt - I lost baby at 20 weeks and was given appt for 5 months later - I complained and now have one for next week. When is your appt ? (sorry if I missed you posting when Jacob's due date was).

Congrats to newton - has it sunk in yet ?

So sorry jaffa I can only imagine how awful the limbo stage is .

And sorry also to maja - strange no AF but no BFP - is this your WTF cycle ?

good luck to those POAS - fingers crossed for BFPs.

murray he was due the 17th of feb, the appointment is for the 9th. I've rang them loads of times because they said it would be 5 weeks as we wernt waiting for a pm, I got lost in the system some how.

5 months is awful, sorry I can't remember did they give you a reason why it happened or are you hoping they can tell you at the appointment

Congratulations newton!

Argh, I have been rubbish at keeping up with everyone, I think I didn't want to think about TTC for a bit. On the other hand I am now CD21 of my first proper month of casting contraceptives to the wind after the m/c. Will know this time next week whether it has born fruit, though I am trying not to get my hopes up. Meep.

(also have found out that yet another friend is pregnant. Which is lovely, but what about meeeeeeeeeee )

Your time is coming, leedy - by hook or by crook we will all get there!

Bad form to turn up after so long with no cake though.

Shout out to martha - how's the metalling my lovely?!

[produces tray of chocolate brownies from handbag]