30s TTC - The BESH thread at the end of WOOniverse.

[PrincessBoo]

Donne thy robes and come join the hagges round a crackling fire made of ye olde pee sticks, as we run around nekkid, high on snorted baybeedust, and do our straynge erotick rituals on the altar of ye inconstant moon.

Come one, come all as we cast spelles and do any Magick we can finde on our queste for an elusive win.

Bring thy gynne for yon cauldron and help thyself to a laddle, as we prepare the incantationnes...

Oh Rie that's nothing, I've had people say "Well really the miscarriage is a good thing isn't it?" "Have you tried putting your legs in the air after sex?" (from my mum after telling her we were seeing a fertility clinic) "Never mind, you'll get there in the end" and many others I've blanked from my mind. Not forgetting all the considerate wankers who after not seeing me for a while rush to tell me about all the pregnant people they know (even if I barely know said pregnant person) while looking at me expectantly to see if I'm going to cry or break down or go mental or something.

I actually feel ok, just bored of it all and fed up. At least I'm not like last time when I DID feel I was losing the plot for several months.

How are you anyway MrsRie? Did droid turn up?

By the way I have no ideas about a thread. I am rubbish at threads.

Droid is here BB! Miscarriage is a good thing? My mother, not known otherwise for her tact, sensitivity or general EQ, used to say "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." Sometimes there are exceptions but this is not one of them.

Well keep an eye on yourself anyway, dearest. You don't want it sneaking up to bite you on the arse after weeks of thinking you were ok with it

Hi BB, you be as ESH as you need right now.

I bought my CBFM for about £50+ on Amazon, and they were usually around £14 for the sticks. A pack of 20 would normally last 2 cycles, though with my enormo-cycles I was on a packet a cycle for the first couple.

Oh bum, Rie. That was a short cycle wasn't it? .

I wonder if those people who say "m/c is a good thing" would mind if I said it to them when one of their relatives died. I know they're only trying to be positive, but sometimes there is no positive side to a situation.

Sorry BB my love, that was a horribly flippant cross post of mine. WTF can someone be thinking to say something like that? I can't bring myself even to repeat it. FFS, I know people find it hard to know what to say sometimes but seriously THAT IS NOT IT. sigh. I hope you have some supportive people round you to balance out the fuckwittery.

Good morning BESH. Have returned to work after weekend of no sechs/muchos droidage in Wales followed by a week off work (hence no BESH communications). How ironic that I am most able to have the time to talk to BESH whilst in paid employment

BB please be borrowing a wet sardine I have procured from my seaside trip in order to slap anyone around the chops who says ridiculous things like that to you.

Had nice weekend away despite woman who owned our holiday cottage spending 30mins showing us how to use her Aga. She left and we immediately heated up our ready meals in her microwave. Classy.

What else has been happening?

I am just at the stupid, insensitive things people can say BB. I think you have licence to shout-spit in their fucking faces and scratch out their eyes.

Aries Pliz to use <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.it/imgres?imgurl=4.bp.blogspot.com/_vY8I5HvOvk8/S0kH_n_G-NI/AAAAAAAAKcc/-PkKRzZ-KWw/s400/ironmaiden.jpg&imgrefurl=illogicalcontraption.blogspot.com/2010/01/two-dozen-medieval-torture-devices.html&usg=__j9e9ezv_XU6P0eHoQUqtwkpKtQs=&h=306&w=301&sz=8&hl=it&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=fxwv_oBq9LIlOM:&tbnh=161&tbnw=164&ei=lKtbTYsWhoezBuKe4YYH&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmedieval%2Btorture%2Biron%26hl%3Dit%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D608%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=137&vpy=76&dur=681&hovh=226&hovw=223&tx=147&ty=93&oei=lKtbTYsWhoezBuKe4YYH&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this for the droid. Fecker.

Alps a friend of mine has used the shag-dictator for all 3 kids so I'd say it works!

Sunny HK sounds amazing! I'd be less enthusiastic about Dubai. Can he choose or does he just get told?

BB would it be bad manners to tell them to "Just Fuck The Fuck Off You Fucking Fucker"?

It is hard to know what to say to people, often your own heart is breaking too, but really if you can't think of anything nice to say then just say that you're sorry.

On the subject of a new home for the floating palais, has there been a BESH fun fair? Just thinking about the roller coaster of emotions, the house of horrors where the droid should be sent, having a moment with one of the fairground boys and all the candy floss you can eat.

Just don't ask me to do it as I that as a) that is the extent of my imagination and
b) I am not supposed to be here!

BB I hear you Bitter Sister. After my 2007 MC the people that pissed me off the most were the ones who told me that it was a good thing because there might have been 'something wrong with it'. The ones who just sat by my side, lit candles with me and agreed that it was shit are the ones who got the Gold star.

Be as cross as you like luffly. The up and down hormone thing is a real bastard isn't it? Please to smack my bare arse with this birch to vent your frustration.

Just been to the doctors. The cold has gone but I still have tonsilitis. I was talking about ttc while he wrote the script for my penecillin (which he wouldn't do 2 weeks ago when he insisted it was viral), and how it would be on hold this month 'cos I just feel too ill. He told me that a woman's fertility curves steeply lower after the age of 35. Like I don't fucking already know?!!!!!!! I put my fingers in my ears and said 'I'm not listening'. This amused him and he shut the fuck up. Twat.

Very pleased to see you back Troglette btw, we've had two more newBESH join since you've been away.

Thanks for that Boo

I think from what i have read the jury is kind of out on that one. Lots of GPs don't actually know that much about fertility, such as those who insist that ovulation happens on day 14 no matter how long your cycle is. A lot depends on what sort of shape you are in and how well you look after yourself I think.

Lots of us on here though are well below 35, so it's all a bit of a lottery. Having said that I am clearly not particularly fertile :(

Actually, to go against the grain here I took comfort in the "chromosomal abnormalities" thing when I had my early-mc. It was shit yes, I cried buckets - but the scientist in me told me there was a very good reason for it (at that early stage!).

Boo sorry to hear about your tonsils. I had several episodes of tonsillitis as a teenager and was so delirious I went into my parents' room and started offering them blankets and cake. I have no memory of doing this but they both assert it was true. Hope you feel better soon.

Sorry about droid rie. Agree with bitey that funfair thread equipped with Dodgem-type ride where we all take turns to repeatedly run over said droid would definitely be a winner.

I am also scienc-y alps (you can tell by my erudite use of the word "sciency") and usually find rational explanations for things quite helpful except when it comes to the post-35 fertility business as I think the media tend to use it as a stick to beat women with (even if there's a grain of truth there).

I think thats all well and good if you come to that conclusion yourself. But its not OK for someone else to say it to you imo.

Yeah - I also had that discussion with the doc in the EPU and coming out of her mouth I was absolutely fine with it, healthcare professional etc - it's just I didn't like hearing it from the world at large as it felt like it was being rubbed in somewhat by that point in the proceedings.

Boo do you think your poor bloaty tonsils could squeeze a few meagre shreds of battenburg cake past them? I believe it's a well-known cure for tonsilitis.

Trogs I am liking your style re. Aga-avoidance. Those things terrify me.

Rie I am about 2 minutes below 35. Well, a couple of months. My view on this rapid curve thingy is that it's only an average and should be treated with the suspicion it deserves. As averages only actually apply to that one single person who is bang in the middle.

Good God in heaven above, I am utterly gobsmacked by anyone who would say 'it's a good thing' to you Barbie and second (fifth?) the recommendation of violence upon their persons.

I have been wondering about a new fred along the lines of 'BESH are giving up lesbian eroti-violence for lent in favour of babydust and hoping the ickl wickle Easter bunny brings us lots of sticky bundles instead of eggs'

Anyone? No? I'm surprised.

Rie fuuuuuuuuckiiiiiiiing droid bastard. Mine's about to leave I think but unfortunately egg-laying for me this month coincides with my BiL staying for 'Wembley weekend', meaning TGB will be pissed pretty much from Friday evening until Monday morning. As I am expecting the lay on Monday or Tuesday, this will be Most Inconvenient. I think I could convince him to shag, but am concerned that jism made of pure Guinness will be tantamount to cake carrying for any potential BOC.

Boo have this lovely vodka ice lolly and enjoy its' tonsil numbing properties.

Right, I'm off to a very boring meeting to talk about our employee survey, seriously, lifestyles of the rich and famous.

Well if I'd had some chromosomal testing on the foetus and they knew it was down to that reason, then I think that's ok for a medical preofessional to tell you that. Not for other people to theorise as to why it happened and tell you that something deeply painful is a bloody positive thing.

Hopefully I should be getting some testing for recurrent miscarriage, as it may be down to an immune or blood disorder, in which case, no, it bloody well isn't for the best as there wasn't anything wrong with it. ANyway, that's enough of that. I'm getting worked up over it and there's nothing I can do to change what happened. I think I should take comfort that although people may not always say quite the right thing, at least they mean well and that is what I should take to heart.

Truff I like your idea for a thread, but I'm envisioning "sticky bundles" as the egg cases in "Alien". I'm not sure I want one of them in case it pops out of my belly mid-spaghetti.

Yeurgh.

Let's call it Thread for Barren Evil Selfish Hags in their thirties (most of whom are finding it a little less than straightforward).

Should clear up any ambiguity.

BB once again I am in awe of how fab you are!

In which I mean to say, that if it helped you Ski and Trog get over m/c by getting comfort from the fact that the BOC may not have survived anyway then that is cool as well. I'm not telling anyone what is the best way of getting over it or how to deal with it. It's hard enough as it is and you just do what you need to to get through it. Just thought I would clarify.

I really, really want a battenburg cake now I've thought about it. I wanted one last night but the single specimen in the local shop was £3.99 and I presume therefore the marzipan bits were actually made of pure gold.

It can't be that hard to make, right? If I have food dye?

I quite liked the fairground idea btw, although there may be mucho barfing as I am a right wuss on fairground rides.

Truffs tis okay, I'm sure I read somewhere that it takes 3 months for the white goods to reflect any dietary changes. Thus the guinness-fuelled ones will only appear in three months' time perhaps?

agree you are the aces BB and that you're absolutely right about doing what you have to do to get over it. Its always the way that people try and say things as they feel the need to say something. I work in a so-called "caring" profession and I think sometimes I am guilty of saying things that I think will make people feel better when actually its best to not say very much but just understand and be nice.

mmm...battenburg. Now you're talking owl. Can I eat the marzipan off first though? 3.99 is extortionate though. I tried to make Christmas crackers last year and it worked out at about 8 quid per cracker once I'd been to Hobbycraft and got all the gubbins. And they were rubbish.

NO IT IS MY MARZIPAN!

You can have the pink squares.