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Worst comment you've had as a child free woman

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derekdied · 09/07/2023 18:54

I'll start. Someone I had literally met about fifteen minutes previously. One of her first questions "do you have kids?" Me "no.." her "oh could you just not be bothered with the responsibility?" 😮

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Catsmere · 16/07/2023 13:29

musixa · 16/07/2023 09:42

Here's your ideal Grim Reaper:

What, no Death of Rats with him? 😆

Catsmere · 16/07/2023 13:30

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/07/2023 09:26

YOU DON'T DIE ALONE, DEATH IS WITH YOU.

💀❤️

1967buglet · 18/07/2023 11:52

you can take on more work because you don’t have any responsibilities

My brother told me it was unfair my father left me half of his estate because he had a family to raise, and I didn’t deserve it. he then tried (unsuccessfully) to cheat me out of said estate.

If you don’t have children, you don’t understand real love.

Lykkeli · 18/07/2023 16:19

Do we not love our parents then 😂

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/07/2023 16:35

If you don’t have children, you don’t understand real love

I'm the sort of irritating person who like to ask people to define their terms. A colleague once called me 'very right wing' so I told him that until he told me what he understood by that term how could I say if he was right or not?

Same with the 'real love.' What's their definition of it? and why is their definition the authoritative one? it puts them on the back foot because 99.9% of the time they haven't actually thought about what they're saying, they're just mouthing witless cliches.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 18/07/2023 17:09

Lykkeli · 18/07/2023 16:19

Do we not love our parents then 😂

I've read threads on here where parents have insisted that we don't love our parents in the way that they love us, and that this can only be truly realised when one becomes a parent oneself.

The existence of neglectful or shitty parents then gets handwaved away.

Lykkeli · 18/07/2023 17:17

They just repeat random shit they've heard from others, they don't think carefully about what these comments actually mean.

Lykkeli · 18/07/2023 17:19

I've been told I live on the edge and 'wing it' because I'm not married with children, no mortgage and work via agencies as opposed to one stable job. Find it quite amusing. Like I'm living in some remote hut or something.

OutsideLookingOut · 18/07/2023 17:40

fitzwilliamdarcy · 12/07/2023 16:19

I got rinsed on here for suggesting that MN feminism is essentially about mothers, not women, but I really do believe it's true.

I once pointed out that if we're talking about womens' rights in the workplace, then the right of a woman not to have to be overworked/last on the priority list for leave etc. because of her lack of parental status, is completely relevant. I was promptly told that women without kids don't need annual leave anyway as we have weekends.

This place can be bonkers.

Yikes I begin to agree. I saw the thread alluded to earlier where many posters thought that your life was not worth saving compared to someone who has children. No idea what it was called though.

CaptainBatEars · 18/07/2023 20:38

These are the ones which spring to mind in particular over the years. Firstly 'a woman has no idea what life is until she's had children' from DH's aunt oh ok then. We invited MIL for Christmas after FIL died and she refused saying 'of course it would be different if I had grandchildren' (we were going through infertility tests at the time but hadn't said anything to any of DH's family). And a bit later, a friend of MIL's suggested I could just shag BIL to get around the fact that DH is infertile. Even MIL was a bit taken aback at that one.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 19/07/2023 08:04

And a bit later, a friend of MIL's suggested I could just shag BIL to get around the fact that DH is infertile. Even MIL was a bit taken aback at that one.

See what I mean by coming out with witless comments? 😅

Catsmere · 19/07/2023 08:23

Friend who's single, childfree, retired and studying has had endless remarks from her teacher, pushing her to come to some gathering so teacher can push random men onto her, and now teacher has said to a third party, in her presence, that "[Friend] has no family, so nothing else to do with her evenings but study." Friend is a slightly self-effacing person and was asking if that was as out of order as she thought. All the group she was asking said words to the effect of Fuck Yes It Is! (I was thinking she should put in a complaint about this teacher, but I doubt she will.)

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 19/07/2023 08:51

Catsmere · 19/07/2023 08:23

Friend who's single, childfree, retired and studying has had endless remarks from her teacher, pushing her to come to some gathering so teacher can push random men onto her, and now teacher has said to a third party, in her presence, that "[Friend] has no family, so nothing else to do with her evenings but study." Friend is a slightly self-effacing person and was asking if that was as out of order as she thought. All the group she was asking said words to the effect of Fuck Yes It Is! (I was thinking she should put in a complaint about this teacher, but I doubt she will.)

What's wrong with spending your evenings studying?

Your friend's teacher is a bully.

KimberleyClark · 19/07/2023 10:00

CaptainBatEars · 18/07/2023 20:38

These are the ones which spring to mind in particular over the years. Firstly 'a woman has no idea what life is until she's had children' from DH's aunt oh ok then. We invited MIL for Christmas after FIL died and she refused saying 'of course it would be different if I had grandchildren' (we were going through infertility tests at the time but hadn't said anything to any of DH's family). And a bit later, a friend of MIL's suggested I could just shag BIL to get around the fact that DH is infertile. Even MIL was a bit taken aback at that one.

My DH had fertility issues as had I. My own mother suggested I had an affair and get pregnant that way. And she was only half joking.

1967buglet · 19/07/2023 11:06

fitzwilliamdarcy · 18/07/2023 17:09

I've read threads on here where parents have insisted that we don't love our parents in the way that they love us, and that this can only be truly realised when one becomes a parent oneself.

The existence of neglectful or shitty parents then gets handwaved away.

Absolutely. People say things unthinkingly, and sometimes don't think properly.

Catsmere · 19/07/2023 11:35

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 19/07/2023 08:51

What's wrong with spending your evenings studying?

Your friend's teacher is a bully.

Too bloody right she is.

And isn't it stupid that a teacher should sneer at one of their students spending time studying that teacher's subject?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 19/07/2023 11:38

Catsmere · 19/07/2023 11:35

Too bloody right she is.

And isn't it stupid that a teacher should sneer at one of their students spending time studying that teacher's subject?

I hope wherever your friend is studying asks for student feedback on course and tutors 😉

Catsmere · 19/07/2023 11:42

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 19/07/2023 11:38

I hope wherever your friend is studying asks for student feedback on course and tutors 😉

Ooh, I hope so, I must ask next time I see her ...

CaptainBatEars · 19/07/2023 17:00

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 19/07/2023 08:04

And a bit later, a friend of MIL's suggested I could just shag BIL to get around the fact that DH is infertile. Even MIL was a bit taken aback at that one.

See what I mean by coming out with witless comments? 😅

Agreed! Must admit the 'pudgey little hands' from another thread has been making me laugh all day. I can't help but hear that sickly phrase in the way of the sample of 'Fluffy Little Clouds' by the Orb so I thought I'd share that earworm with everyone else 😁

@KimberlyClark I'm beginning to think we were separated at birth......

And that teacher sounds awful @catsmere. Definitely feed back on those totally inappropriate remarks. Flamin' cheek!

musixa · 19/07/2023 17:42

Must admit the 'pudgey little hands' from another thread has been making me laugh all day.

It's strange - I can make soppy comments about/to my cats all day long, but I just don't think like that about children.

Cat on horizon - [thinks] Aww, the little pussums with his cute toe-beans and floofy tum, want to have a great big wuggle with you.

Child on horizon - [thinks] Girl, aged about three.

LoobyDop · 19/07/2023 18:17

musixa · 19/07/2023 17:42

Must admit the 'pudgey little hands' from another thread has been making me laugh all day.

It's strange - I can make soppy comments about/to my cats all day long, but I just don't think like that about children.

Cat on horizon - [thinks] Aww, the little pussums with his cute toe-beans and floofy tum, want to have a great big wuggle with you.

Child on horizon - [thinks] Girl, aged about three.

Hahahaha, me too.

Catsmere · 19/07/2023 22:51

musixa · 19/07/2023 17:42

Must admit the 'pudgey little hands' from another thread has been making me laugh all day.

It's strange - I can make soppy comments about/to my cats all day long, but I just don't think like that about children.

Cat on horizon - [thinks] Aww, the little pussums with his cute toe-beans and floofy tum, want to have a great big wuggle with you.

Child on horizon - [thinks] Girl, aged about three.

Same! Well, not the baby talk, but definitely the CAT! Must pet if cat will permit! part.

Toddlers and small children just make me think AVOID.

Catsmere · 19/07/2023 22:54

@CaptainBatEars yes, I just hope my friend will listen to the suggestion - but she's self-effacing enough that I suspect she'll just buckle under or be afraid to say anything. I hope I'm wrong!

CleverLilViper · 20/07/2023 12:52

When stacked against some of the comments other people have had here-I've come off lightly. I've been called "unnatural" and "abnormal" by an ex-boyfriend and his mother for not wanting children. This was when we were still together.

I remember one time, he asked me why I didn't want kids. I was 21 at the time. I turned it around on him as I find it nonsensical to justify not wanting to do something whilst he doesn't have to justify wanting to do something. He replied with, "It's just what you do." That was the true extent of his reasoning and I was still somehow in the wrong for thinking about it deeper and deciding that no, it's not something you just do.

The thing that always gets me is the dismissiveness of people, particularly family. I recently went through a wobble on my choice after many years of being child-free by choice. So, in some respects, it's understandable.

After much reflection, I realised how much work kids are and how much I don't want to be strapped down to that life. It's just not me and it's never been me. I'm very certain on that fact.

Now, I'm subject to "When will you give me a granddaughter?"-my mum-(even if I was to have a kid I couldn't guarantee it would be a girl). If I happen to mention the fact that I was walking my dogs and heard, through closed doors and windows, the sounds of kids shouting and screeching and that I didn't want that life as I couldn't cope (extremely noise sensitive) to be dismissed with "There's lots of good things too. It's just the weekend and everyone's off so they're like that,"-my dad.

It's the feeling that no matter what I say, how I justify it and explain how I feel, my feelings are dismissed as "You're only doing it because your boyfriend doesn't want kids." "You're convincing yourself now." It makes me, a 36 year old woman, feel like a child.

Yet, if I said, after 35 years of never wanting kids and having no maternal instinct whatsoever and being very vocal about that, that I wanted kids it would go unchallenged and encouraged. In fact, that's exactly what happened when I had my wobble. No one questioned my sudden change of heart. it was just "when?"

I wish more people understood that there is an element of sacrifice with this decision as well. I know that having kids could be great-but I know I'm not cut out for it-and I love my non-existent child enough to not inflict myself on them. Sometimes we make the choice for ourselves-but also because we know that unless we want them sufficiently, it's not fair to bring a child into the world.

Lykkeli · 20/07/2023 13:01

"It's just what you do"
Wow, that's actually quite sad that somebody is totally unable to think for themselves and think about what sort of life they actually want, they just feel they have to go along with the majority because "That's what people do." How depressing.

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