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Why isn't depressing seated racism on MN challenged more?

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FloweryCurtainTwitcher · 04/06/2022 01:24

So. I am not black but I am not white. My great grandparents (as far as I know) were EE Jewish, black African , white African, Irish, North African and white British x3 . One of my parents was born and raised in West Africa until age 15ish.

As a child growing up in white rural England I was bullied about my big lips (they are luscious- no lip filler required here) and my thick black hair that has a definite kink (Jewish or African- who knows? Irish maybe? ). I didn't really think about my ethnicity until I grew up and reflected a bit more about it. But I did know that attacking people because of how they looked was wrong.

I find the subcultural of racism on MN unacceptable. The threads this weekend about Meghan Markle are indicative `(people claiming they are not racists they just dont like her- for lots of ridiculous reasons- basically she is an independent black woman )

I believe that we should all challenge deeply embedded racism constantly regardless of our ethnicity. Not just the National Front type stuff which is explicit but the deep societal implicit racism which underpins our society.

So why does no-one ever call it out on MN- why are so many posts with inherent racist views allowed to go unchallenged? Why isnt every post with racist undertones receiving hundreds of reports?

Is it pointless? Is MN like the MET police and institutionally racist ?

(5 years of commuting through elephant and castle- everyday saw MET police pull someone over. ONCE only were they not black- so 1000 approx stops- only 1 white)

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JemimaPuddlegoose · 20/06/2022 17:24

It's utterly exhausting. I made comments saying I thought a book at the centre of a racism scandal was actually racist and that the author had behaved badly (in a thread full of ranting about "wokeness" and "cancel culture" and how you can't possibly ban words because social media mobs will always find something to be offended by), immediately got called stupid and bitter and accused of having a personal vendetta against this random writer who I obviously must know personally.

I made one polite comment saying "Please stick to discussing the book and not making personal attacks on other posters" and within minutes there were six comments about how they're actually afraid of me because I'm so unstable and sensitive, and how "my behaviour" has censored debate because they're so frightened of me.

For making one comment saying "stick to the topic not other posters."

It's utterly exhausting seeing seeing and being able to recognise these tactics and not being able to do anything about it.

Lndnmummy · 20/06/2022 17:38

I'm so sorry @JemimaPuddlegoose.
Its utterly shit. So shit

IrisVersicolor · 22/06/2022 19:45

I just walked into that one.

Badgered to explain why a racist book is racist. That’s not how I’m going to spend my afternoon.

IrisVersicolor · 22/06/2022 19:52

Don’t ever not read the whole thread on MN.

RedWingBoots · 23/06/2022 14:43

It appears it is summer trolling time...

IrisVersicolor · 24/06/2022 10:28

That thread is certainly a good example of the discussion here about problematic mod response.@JemimaPuddlegoose and @Innocenta were treated as if the same without any apparent grasp of nuance or agenda.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 25/06/2022 17:41

Being accused of being a pedophile was... yeah that was a special moment in "some people take the Internet a little bit too seriously."

GreyBeeplus3 · 20/02/2026 17:08

@Diverseopinions
You may genuinely be commenting on someone about something relevant to that person in particular who happens to be black
But you'll get those who claim you did it because of their colour
Or,
Those who will just see black and twist/turn the thing you said into something rotten
Also I personally know of white girls with black partners because they've used their race to acquire a partner and be out for what they'll get
One girls actually said that she knew the white boy she liked his family said she wasn't good enough so she turned her attentions to a black boy and since shes had children by him she just gets on with it
But you can honestly see she's not enthused and neither is her family
So yes, I think you can be a deep somewhere within your core racist whatever you do/decide to do in your circumstances especially if you'll benefit
Because it never quite leaves you

SmiledWtherisingsun · 21/02/2026 16:06

I report racism and it usually gets removed. I also call out the poster in the chat. Everyone should do this imo.
Am white, if that’s at all relevant.

SmiledWtherisingsun · 21/02/2026 16:12

Roussette · 16/06/2022 10:41

Ditto @Kanaloa
I just hate the blatant vitriolic bullying of her for nothing, fuelled no doubt by DM readers. I think they've made some glaring mistakes but she and him are hardly spawn of the devil

People who love the royal family are a bunch of sycophantic weirdos. I can’t even begin to have a rational conversation with any of them.
The Meg hate is pure racism. But it doesn’t make me a fan of hers.

NorthXNorthWest · 22/02/2026 17:05

Lndnmummy · 13/06/2022 08:07

People who say they dislike MM behaviour and not don't dislike her because she is black, I'd like you to consider this: I put it to you that you deslike her behaviour BECAUSE she is black. You might not be AWARE that you are racist or that your racist views is what they are. You may fail to UNDERSTAND this as due to your white privilige and as a result of growing up around white supremacy you've not had to spend too much time worrying about this sort of stuff. The world and your experiences in it are different (heartbreakingly different) from the lived experiences of people on this thread. People on this thread have had generations and generations of those experiences so to pipe up on a space designated to them and THEIR experiences to tell them what they are experiencing isn't what they are experiencing is yet another tragic example of white privilege. Just because you disagree doesn't mean it isn't true. All the frothing and keyboard warring in the world doesn't mean it isn't true. And "debating" it, denying its existence ON THIS BOARD is triggering, goady and so utterly tasteless.

Agree

CornishGem1975 · 22/02/2026 19:37

SmiledWtherisingsun · 21/02/2026 16:12

People who love the royal family are a bunch of sycophantic weirdos. I can’t even begin to have a rational conversation with any of them.
The Meg hate is pure racism. But it doesn’t make me a fan of hers.

Deleted because it's a zombie thread.

CornishGem1975 · 22/02/2026 19:38

Ugh just realised this is a zombie thread. Why do people do that.

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