The Continuing Adventures of the First Time Frolicker Graduates....

[Hermya321]

Right (plonks self down and breaks out the biscuit tin and tea bags), I've stuck the kettle on. Whose joining me?

ARRIVALS:

Fulhamgirl - EDD 30th May - DOB 9th Apr - Girl - Lily Ann - 4lb

CURRENT__GRADUATES:

Trying4Baby1 - BFP 21st Aug - 25th Apr - Girl
Kaystar - BFP 27th Aug - EDD?
Pepperonipizza - BFP 12th Sep - 24th May - Boy
Ladyemmalou83 - BFP 13th Oct - 23rd Jun - Girl - Erin Elizabeth
bluesnowfalcon - BFP 14th Oct - EDD?
DesperateHousewife21 - BFP 3rd Nov - EDD 18th Jul - Boy - Dylan
Spirael - BFP 7th Nov - EDD 25th Jul - Secret
Curlycasper - BFP 11th Nov - EDD 21st Jul - Girl
EmsieRo - BFP 16th Nov - EDD 20th Jul
vix206 - BFP 8th Dec - EDD 22nd Aug
HypotheticalMummy - BFP 9th Dec - EDD?
Ozziegirly - BFP 16th Dec - EDD 24th Aug
NovemberAli - BFP 24th Dec - EDD 2nd Sep
Eleanora - BFP 28th Dec - EDD 4th Sep
WhiteRoses - BFP 11th Jan - EDD 15th Sep - Boy
hamsterlover - BFP 11th Jan - EDD?
Hobnob - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 26th Sep
MadameG - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 16th Sep
pixiestix - BFP 18th Jan - EDD 24th Sep
ceebs05 - BFP 22nd Jan - EDD 29th Sep
addie81 - BFP 28th Jan - EDD 8th Oct
chancewouldbeafinething - BFP 1st Feb - EDD 11th Oct
WorrisomeHeart - BFP 29th Jan - EDD 12th Oct
Hermya321 - BFP 12th Feb - EDD 24th Oct
fudgecat - BFP 19th Feb ? EDD 28th Oct
Pidgin - BFP 27th Feb - EDD?
Honeymoo - BFP ? - EDD 1st Nov
YorkshireTeaDrinker - BFP 1st Mar - EDD 6th Nov
DrewsGirl - BFP 4th Mar - EDD?
bunnygirl80 - BFP 12th Mar - EDD 19th Nov
Mumnerves - BFP 1st Apr - EDD 8th Dec
Spanishlady - BFP 3rd Apr - EDD?
luckyseven - BFP 8th Apr - EDD 17th Dec
Capricorn76 - BFP 12th Apr - EDD 1st Jan
Homebound - BFP 30th Apr - EDD 8th Jan

FUTURE_GRADUATES:

aly323
Ariesgirl
Bellaby
calligraphy82
Calyx
CaveMum
chalky3
cher rycobbler
claireinthecommunity
Dinkytinky
evilgiraffe
FelicityFlick
haloflo
Kaloki
kkas
kurl yvoice
misshoohaa
MrsWajs
Muser
Papertiger
pinkiePoo
pipsicles
seablue
Sevans
Stiffybyn g
Wannamummy
Zippys

Fudge I am thinking of you,I hope you and your DH are getting all the support you need. I just hope that the scans are wrong. xxx

Thanks for that, bunnygirl. I won't panic just yet, then! I've had a look at what's left and I think it was just the top part that came away, the bottom bit is still in place so there's no where really for food to get trapped. I'll keep an eye on it though and wander back to my dentist if necessary. Thanks again!

Hee, I might have to try that, aly. If Gadget hasn't shifted by my next MW appointment, I think I'll have to give my first stern lecture as 'mother'. (Though to be honest I've been telling Gadget off for kicking me for weeks. )

Sending you lots of love and hugs fudge! Really hope things work out ok xxx

Fudge, you poor sweetheart. So sorry. Thinking of you. I can't imagine what you're going through.

Feels as if I've been away forever! Incredibly busy week last week at work, and then in Newcastle for the day yesterday, but have finally caught up (though should clearly be working).

Like whiteroses, am so sorry to hear about bellaby, chalky and fudge. We're all thinking of you here - my heart goes out to all of you.

It's shocking how much can change in so little time - as spirael says - it's all a more uncertain business than people seem to want to acknowledge sometimes. Although we all have to travel hopefully, I do think this makes it harder when things go wrong, as there's still quite a taboo about it. Totally with you on the hatred of the "chemical pregnancy" label, especially when used indiscriminately.

bunny - was shocked to read about your boss (I know this is old news now, but still). Hopefully one day someone will sue his arse for sexual discrimination.

ozziegirly - filled with admiration at the level-headed way you're taking the GD stuff - really hope you get some straightforward advice from your doctors that takes the trauma out of shopping (hard enough at the moment if you're anything like me).

spirael - wow - maternity leave! Love the idea of your list - are you filled with that restless creative energy we hear so much about in the last leg? Hope so! Oh - and my friend swore by cranial osteopathy to turn her baby. I've never had it (and I presume it spreads beyond the cranium in this instance??!) but it did the trick for her.

yorkshire - lovely to see you around, and glad all is ok after your scare.

luckyseven - I was shamed by your epic post into making notes too!

aly - so glad all is progressing well - must have been so worrying for you. At 10 weeks my breasts are definitely bigger, but probably not quite a cup size - just an annoying amount as I found when I wore a thin white T shirt the other day and realised my nipples had leapt out of the balcony bra and were visible through it. Not a good realisation early in the day.

I've got my booking appointment tomorrow and am sure that as ever in this business there'll be some question I should know the answer to that I haven't even considered! Am really hoping that extra volume of blood pumping round my body means that they might actually be able to find a vein before I've passed out this time!

mumsnerves - your post gave me hope! Am praying for the day I wake up not feeling this crap. Please let it be soon. Newcastle yesterday nearly finished me off (7 hour round trip!), and I've had to ask to work from home today. Which I should probably be doing, rather than MNetting!

Hello to everyone else too - here's to a safe, uneventful week.

Just popping in to say we're all thinking of you fudge

Fudge still thinking of you and hoping no news is good news x

aly323 How exciting, telling the family was the bit I enjoyed most

seablue and aly It may seem now that you'll never get over the sickness, just like you seablue I was throwing up just weekend before after getting out of the car from a 11/2 hour journey to manchester. So, yes there is definately hope! Try seabands, they really do work and some of the other ladies here swear by them as well

I think I might be feeling LO move, feels a bit unusual, like bubbles poppin in my stomach

fudge I'm still thinking of you. Hope you're getting all the support you need.

chance glad you're jealous of our weather, although the weekend was the first remotely warm and sunny weather we've had in weeks

ozzie hope your trip to the diabetes nurse went ok

mumnerves glad to hear the sickness is getting better.

spirael it sounds like your tooth will be fine if it's still covered by sealant. Maybe it was just a bit of extra material that came off when you were eating

We're going on holiday in 2 weeks, so I've had to get a new bikini top. I already have a really nice Freya bikini and the bottoms still fit, so I just ordered a tankini top to match in my new bra size. I've just tried it on and it provides so much support for my boobs they look about twice the size they really are!! I suppose at least the huge bosoms might distract people from spotting my tummy and trying to decide if I'm pg or fat.

Just popping in again to see if there's any news from Fudge. Can't get her out of my head at all. Hoping she's okay. x

Yes, I was wondering if there was any news from Fudge too. Really hope she's doing ok, or as well as can be.

I went to the diabetes nurse yesterday and she was lovely. No lecture at all, no doom laden missives. She went through my diet and basically said I was already eating the diet that she tried to persuade people to eat .

Basically I have to watch portion sizes and make sure the diet is very balanced, and also to have snacks as well (I'm not a big snacker). I measured my blood after dinner yesterday and it was 4.6 so totally fine, and this morning it was 4.4, also fine (it should be between 3 and 7). It'll be interesting to see how it is in a hour as I had my normal breakfast, which may be a bit too carby, but I wanted to test it first.

So, all in all, so much less worrying and bothersome than I had expected.

Hello all,

Salty had her BFP on the other thread, so congrats to her!!

I've bought my cot and pram this week and am on the verge of getting a changing bag (or two) as well. I can't decide between a manly black one or a funky stripey one. Fortunatly both are on ebay as we speak and I think that it would be a shame not to have both, really when you look at it I would be saving even more money with two wouldn't I.

My nausea seems to have come back with a vengence this week, so I'm back on dairylea dunkers and special kay today as they were the only two things that appealed when looking in desperation round Tescos. Has anyone else had this? Or am I just overloaded with hormones at the moment.

I still also don't really have much of a bump, I just look like I've eaten a big tea. I've decided that this isn't a major issue, it just means that I'll be able to stay away from the hideous maternity stuff at work even longer.

On the SPD side of things, it comes and goes at the moment. I did look a bit of a twit hobbling across the car park cursing Father Time and swearing under my breath as I had to stop every couple of minutes because it kept hurting. I ended up being late in and walked in at the worst moment possible and ended up doing the walk of shame. Oh well.

Mumsnerves I'm very that you're starting to bloom. Also great news on the movements, thats how it felt when I first felt them. Nowadays, I'm starting to get the feeling that I'm being used as a trampoline.

Bunny Just go out there and strut your stuff and if you feel the need, just occasionally stick your hand on your back, stick your tummy out and rub it. People will get the idea.

Ozzie I'm glad you're not going to have major major changes and that it seems managable to you.

Seablue Just take it easy on yourself, pregnancy is hard but overall worth the effort. Let us know how your booking appointment goes.

White Glad to see that they're being helpful with you, I think my HR department exists in some outer region of deepest outer Mongolia, I go up to the office to see them and they're never there.

Hi folks

We're back now thank goodness - 30 hours of travelling on the way back was hideous, and the holiday itself was pretty manic what with unexpected trips to the docs and the wedding insania! Am completely exhausted and not looking forward to getting back to work next week.

Just wanted to say fudge, bella and chalky, hope things are ok, and you're all coping ok.

Chance I think it's you who is moving to Oz at 30 weeks? All I can say is beg for a bulkhead seat on the flight - I almost couldn't get the tray table down on the way back (am now 23 weeks!) And it was hard to get in and out of the seat if the person in front had their seat fully reclined. On the exciting news side of things, DH felt Mr T move the other day, which was fantastic!

Will have a proper read through now to see what you have all been up to!

chance I hadn?t forgotten about you and your trip to Ascot! I had to wait for the declarations to be made for the races before I could go through the horses. Here are some suggestions:

2.30 Fork Handles (I just love the name, and the 2 Ronnie?s sketch!)
3.05 Harbinger
3.50 Fleeting Spirit
4.25 Genki
5.00 Submariner
5.35 Bergo

The 3.50 is the big race of the day ? the Golden Jubilee Stakes. It is a sprint race and will be over before you know it!

These are not cast iron tips, but they have reasonable chances! Have fun and don?t lose too much!

also just checking in to see if there is any news from fudge. when I was waiting for my amnio results I kept well away from MN so perhaps she is just doing the same. Hope all is ok. x

Have been a bit snowed under with work, trying to finish my thesis and decorating a nursery so lost touch with the thread a bit!

Just wanted to give my best wishes to Fudge - really hoping the results are good news and sorry to hear the bad news from Bellaby and Chalky, hope to see you back here soon.

Fudge hope you are ok, thinking of you x

Bad day today in my corner of the world - family friend has lost their life to cancer.

He was so young - mid 20s. So shit as he had already beaten this type of cancer (Leukaemia) and others before.

I am fine, in that still holding it together, but everyone knew him, so trying to keep a strong face for now to not upset anyone else more than already are.

Sorry to be like this, it has no relevance to anything here, just needed ??? don't know - to off load... be angry?

Sorry everyone, will be ok - just need to get to grips with it. Its bullshit that these things are easier "if you know". Losing someone will always be hard regardless of circumstance.

Sorry to hear your sad news oneof8 Make sure you look after yourself xxx

Hello...I feel a bit funny coming over here - I only just got a positive and I don't want to jinx anything......

Sorry you're going through a rough time fudge.

Sorry to hear about your friend too oneof8, it's so sad when someone you know dies, regardless of age or circumstances.

Thought I'd better post an update about our situation. I've had so many visits to the hospital over the past ten days that I think I should have my own parking space! Went to the EPU initially because I had been bleeding for two weeks. External and internal scans couldn't see anything (apart from a cyst on one ovary) so the midwives thought I'd had a miscarriage. DH and I were naturally very upset about this. A blood test was done to establish my HCG levels. This was repeated two days later but the HCG had only risen slightly, not dropped (miscarriage) or doubled (normal pregnancy). There was talk of ectopic prgnancy so I was given a thorough examination but that didn't establish anything except that I wasn't in pain. More bloods were done two days later but again there was only a slight rise in HCG. Had another scan which determined that there was no ectopic and the cyst had gone (both a relief!) and most importantly, that there is something growing in my utererus which looks like an embryo at about the four week stage! I had really not expected that and was prepared for more bad news. I'm slightly confused by the dates, though I was never entirely certain, but I'm not too concerned about that. Unfortunately I'm still bleeding (over 3 weeks now ) and nobody seems to know why or what the outcome might be so I've to go back in about ten days time for another scan.

DH and I aren't getting excited at this stage as things still aren't as they should be so we're keeping open minds about it all. The team at the EPU are very good but keep telling us that early pregnancy is a very grey area and some things happen without explanation. I really thought they would know everything there is to know but I guess Mother Nature has her own secret agenda! It's been a rough few weeks and is continuing to be so, hopefully we'll have some answers soon.

Just wanted to say thank you for all your kind messages of support.

We went for the amnio on Tuesday and saw the same doc we saw on Monday ? he did another scan and told us that the situation has deteriorated since the day before. The amnio itself wasn?t very nice, more uncomfortable than painful and little splodge reached out to try and grab the needle when he was taking the fluid.
Got the results Tuesday and got the all clear for triploidy. About the same time I started leaking fluid so have been back to the hospital today. Had another scan and there is hardly any fluid left. This on its own is not good but combined with the size\growth problems is even worse as even if the baby was ok size wise it would not be able to develop its lungs. We were offered a termination but said no as I could not live with myself having to make that decision. Blaming myself for the flow fluid as im sure it must be connected with the amnio.
Next appointment is a week on Monday but the doctor did warn us that there may not be a heartbeat. Just so so devastated and all I want is my baby to be ok

So sorry you're going through this fudgecat. Don't blame yourself, the doctors know what they're doing and they wouldn't have done the amnio unless they really needed to and thought the risk was low compered to the knowledge it would bring. I really hope there's some light at the end of the tunnel you're in right now. My fingers are crossed for you.

fudgecat just like everyone else here you have been in my thoughts this week. Thank you for letting us know what has happened this week. I am so sorry you are going through this and i hope time passes quickly until your next appointment. Please don t blame yourself for any of what has happened, frustratingly there are so many things in life we can t control. Sending you a big hug i really admire your strength and courage.

Fudgecat all's not lost yet, you and baby are in my thoughts and prayers. Hope baby keeps fighting. Please be kind to yourself, it must be so easy to blame yourself as you're carrying and feel responsible, but I'm sure you would have done the same if faced with the same situation and without having any answers. Good on you for not having a termination, it must have been such a difficult decision but I'm with you, on that one, I don't think I could live with the 'what ifs' and guilt either. Big hugs from me x

bunnygirl am that you can fit into a bikini! I've gone up so much booby-wise that I wouldn't want to scare anyone, besides they are just too pleased to see everyone at the moment, so I think I'll just stick to my maternity costume.

Ozziegirl pleased for you that your meeting with the nurse went so well, and you feel much less worried now

Hermya how awful that you're still getting MS You're about 5-6 weeks in front of me, and I couldn't even begin to imagine having to put up with it for that long! Hope the thought of LO at the end of it is keeping you going. But I on the other hand am that you just look a bit bigger, I was in maternity wear from week 11 and now can't fit into anything else anymore (am only 15w ) The MW thought I was at least 22w when I went to see her on tues, my bump is huuuuuge! Have you asked for physio for the spd?

worrisome welcome back, hope you had a decent holiday in spite of the manic-ness

oneof8 so sorry to hear about your friend, it's so sad especially one so young You feel free to offload on us, it's what we're here for

chalky things are sounding good for you, fingers crossed they'll just get better x

Not much from me, just that everything tastes so good at the moment that I have to stop myself from eating for two!

Have a good weekend ladies and hi to anyone I failed to mentioned x

Oh fudge I'm so sorry to hear your news. I an't imagine what you're going through. When you said about the baby reaching for the needle sob. Try to take care of yourself and everyone's right, you haven't done anything to cause this.

chalky tentative congratulations and I will be keeping everything crossed that the bleeding stops soon and that your little bean can hang on in there.

Oneof8 I'm so sorry to hear your news too, it's awful when cancer takes anyone, let alone someone so young.

Salty massive congratulations to you - we have had some very sad times here, but a new BFP is always a wonderful thing, and I wish you a straightforward and simple pregnancy.

All fine with me, blood monitoring going fine, no drama at all.

Have a good weekend everyone, and take care, all of you going through such hard times.

Salty Hello to you me dear, how are you feeling? Is it settling in yet? I bet you're so so excited.

Fudge My word, I'm so so sorry. You're in my thoughts and prayers. I hope you get some good news next week. Please don't blame yourself though, the Docs do know what they're doing and the fluids can replenish themselves (I saw this on another thread).

Mumsnerves Nope I haven't seen a physio as of yet, it's managable and seems to come in spits and starts at the moment. Theres a car park which I have to walk through to get to work and weirdly I always seem to get it there . I think it's all down to my Mum, she said she was the same way when she was pregnant with me. I figure the SPD and MS is natures way of letting me know that I'm not imagining things.

Worrisome So glad you had a nice holiday.

Oneof8 I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, I know it's horrid and I hope that you find some peace in this situation. You're in my thoughts and prayers.

Chalky Gosh, that is a bit of a confusing one isn't it. It sounds a bit more encouraging than what they oringinally thought, I hope that the next scan sheds more light on the matter. I talked to my Midwife when I had bleeding at seven weeks and she told me that some women just do bleed and that they sometimes can never really find the cause. Fingers crossed for both of you, I hope that you and DH are doing ok though.

Work has been a bit stressful the past few days, I spent a bit of time hiding in the loo today having a mini breakdown. It was all fine in the end and I got through till hometime, I just can't seem to summon any kind of enthusiam at the moment. I think these last two weeks are catching up with me a bit and this is now the fallout. Hopefully some chocolate and some quality time with DH should set me right.