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Hermya321 · 01/05/2010 20:01

Right (plonks self down and breaks out the biscuit tin and tea bags), I've stuck the kettle on. Whose joining me?

ARRIVALS:

Fulhamgirl - EDD 30th May - DOB 9th Apr - Girl - Lily Ann - 4lb

CURRENT__GRADUATES:

Trying4Baby1 - BFP 21st Aug - 25th Apr - Girl
Kaystar - BFP 27th Aug - EDD?
Pepperonipizza - BFP 12th Sep - 24th May - Boy
Ladyemmalou83 - BFP 13th Oct - 23rd Jun - Girl - Erin Elizabeth
bluesnowfalcon - BFP 14th Oct - EDD?
DesperateHousewife21 - BFP 3rd Nov - EDD 18th Jul - Boy - Dylan
Spirael - BFP 7th Nov - EDD 25th Jul - Secret
Curlycasper - BFP 11th Nov - EDD 21st Jul - Girl
EmsieRo - BFP 16th Nov - EDD 20th Jul
vix206 - BFP 8th Dec - EDD 22nd Aug
HypotheticalMummy - BFP 9th Dec - EDD?
Ozziegirly - BFP 16th Dec - EDD 24th Aug
NovemberAli - BFP 24th Dec - EDD 2nd Sep
Eleanora - BFP 28th Dec - EDD 4th Sep
WhiteRoses - BFP 11th Jan - EDD 15th Sep - Boy
hamsterlover - BFP 11th Jan - EDD?
Hobnob - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 26th Sep
MadameG - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 16th Sep
pixiestix - BFP 18th Jan - EDD 24th Sep
ceebs05 - BFP 22nd Jan - EDD 29th Sep
addie81 - BFP 28th Jan - EDD 8th Oct
chancewouldbeafinething - BFP 1st Feb - EDD 11th Oct
WorrisomeHeart - BFP 29th Jan - EDD 12th Oct
Hermya321 - BFP 12th Feb - EDD 24th Oct
fudgecat - BFP 19th Feb ? EDD 28th Oct
Pidgin - BFP 27th Feb - EDD?
Honeymoo - BFP ? - EDD 1st Nov
YorkshireTeaDrinker - BFP 1st Mar - EDD 6th Nov
DrewsGirl - BFP 4th Mar - EDD?
bunnygirl80 - BFP 12th Mar - EDD 19th Nov
Mumnerves - BFP 1st Apr - EDD 8th Dec
Spanishlady - BFP 3rd Apr - EDD?
luckyseven - BFP 8th Apr - EDD 17th Dec
Capricorn76 - BFP 12th Apr - EDD 1st Jan
Homebound - BFP 30th Apr - EDD 8th Jan

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felicityFlick · 12/06/2010 08:31

Just popping in to say am thinking of youchalky and also great news on your scan aly xxxx

Ozziegirly · 12/06/2010 09:58

That's interesting aly - so can I ask what a "normal" day's food for you would be?

I have been shopping today and it's a bit of a minefield so I'm pleased I"m going to see the diabetic educator. I was trying to buy bread, looking at the Burgen "low GI" one, but checking the sugars on the back, it had more than the normal seeded sourdough one - so I'm not really sure what I should be checking at all.

Also, someone on the "Help with GD" thread said dried apricots are a no no but according to the Index they are low - so I am really more confused than I was originally.

I think maybe until I see the nurse next week I'm just going to not eat white bread, white rice, white pasta, cakes, sweets - but I didn't have them really anyway!

This is the first time in my life I have ever had to think about what I eat from a health perspective. Always before it's been; eat green things, fruit, wholemeal and wholegrain stuff, meat and fish and have the ocasional treat of a biscuit or a slice of cake - if your trousers get a bit tight, just eat less. And now with every mouthful I worry that I'm hurting my baby

aly323 · 12/06/2010 19:06

Ozzie, I think your normal diet is pretty much exactly what you need to be eating. Here's an idea of what I eat:

Breakfast (2starches, 2 proteins, 1 fat): 2 slices of toast with margarine, and a 2 oz slice of ham or an egg with mushrooms and cheese.

Snack (1starch, 1protein, 1 fat, 1 fruit +milk):apple with peanut butter, crackers, 6 black olives.

Lunch (2starches, 3 proteins, 1 fat, 1-2 veggies +milk): 2 flour tortillas with melted cheese, sliced onions, mushrooms, a little chicken and sour cream, or a sandwich with turkey, tomatoes, and avacado. I generally also eat some raw carrots or broccolli and have a V8.

snack(1starch, 1 protein,1 fruit, 1 fat +milk): Caramel rice cake, cheese, blueberries, 6 almonds

Dinner(2 starches, 4 proteins, 1-2 veggies, 1 fat ): 4oz of fish or meat cooked in olive oil with a side of veggies. 1 ear of corn on the cob.

Snack(1 starch, 1 protein, 1 fat +milk): Popcorn popped in olive oil, cheese or a slice of turkey.

That's pretty much it. I'm definitely not starving. It's about a 2000 calorie diet and my biggest problem is getting myself to eat it all (especially with my nausea). They say I can't cut back much because the baby needs the food. There are lots of food options, but I'm not too creative and am already getting very bored with my food. I'm also not much of a cook. The dietician gave me a list with options for each category and I've rarely strayed just because I'm so afraid to make a mistake right now because I'm in prime birth defect time. Apricots and dried apricots were both on my list, but my dietician crossed out dried apricots (along with raisins and unsweetened canned fruit). Also, note that corn and peas aren't veggies, they're starches. And, bacon counts as a fat, not a protein. Who knew?

Your baby is in good shape. All the important developing is done. Now, you can only do good stuff. By keeping your sugars low, you're just making sure to keep baby in a nice healthy environment. Don't be surprised if your GD people say all sorts of things that scare you. I think they often need to use worst case scenerios to get people to comply with the diet and insulin. It's shocking, but many people don't change once they find out about the GD. GD is definitely serious, but it doesn't definitely mean that anything bad is going to happen.

In all honesty, I do get very down about the diabetes. I'm not so worried about the late term complications (I'm sure I'll worry more about that later), I'm just scared shitless that the highs I get now, despite my tight diet and the insulin, are going to result in something bad. It doesn't help that I'm hormonal am also struggling with low sugars, too. But, this is just the way it is... it'll work out in the end. People with really bad diabetes have healthy babies all the time. We can only do our best.

Ok, sorry to everyone for the long diabetes post.

Spireal, I'm so jealous that you're done with work. I can't believe that time has passed so quickly! Your EDD is so close now!

Bunny, 3 cup sizes!! That's amazing. As much as I'm dying to have a cute little bump. I also think it would be fun to just have the big chest for awhile.

Felicity thanks for the congrats. I keep meaning to check in with the TTC thread. I never got to tell you how much I want to join you on your upcoming vacation. I've been dying to go to many of the places you're visiting.

OK, I have leave now to bike to pick up my car from the shop. It's in for the 3rd time in two weeks. Supposedly it's really fixed this time...we'll see...

aly323 · 12/06/2010 19:10

Oh, and "ozzie*, I tend to look at the carb listings on breads now. 1 starch serving is 15 carbs. I find that there is a huge range in the whole grain breads. The bread I eat now is a whole wheat that has about 17 carbs per slice.

zippys · 12/06/2010 19:18

Hi I just wanted to pop on and say hi and say I am so sorry for the bad news Chalky I hope the docs can get to the bottom of it soon. It must be so hard for you xxx

mumnerves · 12/06/2010 20:06

aly just pop-ed in and wanted to say good news about the scan, it was so hard for me to stomach anything not being diabetic and I was lucky that I could just eat what I wanted. Can't even begin to imagine how difficult it must be for you! A lot of people here have recommended seabands to me and they have worked for the nausea, so maybe worth a try? x

Ozziegirly · 13/06/2010 01:36

Thanks aly your diet sounds rather nice actually, but I can sympathise with the feeling of not wanting to go "off list" - if I could, I would like it if the nurse could just write me a menu plan for the next 10 weeks and I would happily just stick to that!

I know I should feel fortunate that this is the only problem I have had with my pregnancy, but I have never been diagnosed with any kind of " disorder" or "disease" in my life, and so it has kind of knocked me for six.

Thanks so much for your post, it's really helpful. I hope all continues going well for you, and I'll let you know once I see the various practitioners next week.

I am ready for a lecture but will be irritated by it, as I already eat healthily and know the risks of this, so I expect to be treated as an intelligent human and not a naughty child.

Hermya321 · 13/06/2010 21:57

Oh Aly you have a bean!!! Thats so cool!!!

Ozzie Sorry about the GD, sounds like you're being looked after with Aly here and your Docs.

Chalky Have they given you any more news? I'm so sorry about the possible ectopic.

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bunnygirl80 · 14/06/2010 07:32

aly hope your car got fixed properly this time.

ozzie good luck with the diabetes nurse- Hopefully they'll give you lots of useful advice and not too much of a lecture

I've been very virtuous this weekend and have done tons of exercise. I went to yoga on Saturday, aerobics on Sunday, and we did an 11km hike today. Now my legs are quite tired DH managed to get sunburn today which is impressive considering it's the middle of winter

I've added the recent updates to the list

ARRIVALS:

Fulhamgirl - EDD 30th May - DOB 9th Apr - Girl - Lily Ann - 4lb
Trying4Baby1 - EDD 25th Apr - DOB 6th May - Girl - Emily - 10lb 2.5oz
Pepperonipizza -EDD 24th May - DOB 28th May -Boy

CURRENT__GRADUATES:

Ladyemmalou83 - BFP 13th Oct - 23rd Jun - Girl - Erin Elizabeth
bluesnowfalcon - BFP 14th Oct - EDD?
DesperateHousewife21 - BFP 3rd Nov - EDD 18th Jul - Boy - Dylan
Spirael - BFP 7th Nov - EDD 25th Jul - Secret
Curlycasper - BFP 11th Nov - EDD 21st Jul - Girl
EmsieRo - BFP 16th Nov - EDD 20th Jul
vix206 - BFP 8th Dec - EDD 22nd Aug
HypotheticalMummy - BFP 9th Dec - EDD?
Ozziegirly - BFP 16th Dec - EDD 24th Aug
Sazziej - BFP? - EDD 1st Sep - Girl - Evie
NovemberAli - BFP 24th Dec - EDD 2nd Sep
Eleanora - BFP 28th Dec - EDD 4th Sep
WhiteRoses - BFP 11th Jan - EDD 15th Sep - Boy
hamsterlover - BFP 11th Jan - EDD?
Hobnob - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 26th Sep - Girl
MadameG - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 16th Sep
pixiestix - BFP 18th Jan - EDD 24th Sep - Surprise
ceebs05 - BFP 22nd Jan - EDD 29th Sep
addie81 - BFP 28th Jan - EDD 7th Oct - Girl
chancewouldbeafinething - BFP 1st Feb - EDD 10/10/10 - Boy
WorrisomeHeart - BFP 29th Jan - EDD 12th Oct - Boy!
Hermya321 - BFP 12th Feb - EDD 24th Oct - Boy
fudgecat - BFP 19th Feb ? EDD 28th Oct
Pidgin - BFP 27th Feb - EDD?
Honeymoo - BFP? - EDD 1st Nov
YorkshireTeaDrinker - BFP 1st Mar - EDD 6th Nov
DrewsGirl - BFP 4th Mar - EDD?
bunnygirl80 - BFP 12th Mar - EDD 19th Nov
Mumnerves - BFP 1st Apr - EDD 8th Dec
Spanishlady - BFP 3rd Apr - EDD?
luckyseven - BFP 8th Apr - EDD 17th Dec
Capricorn76 - BFP 12th Apr - EDD 1st Jan
Homebound - BFP 30th Apr - EDD 8th Jan
Seablue - BFP? - EDD 10th Jan
Oneof8 - BFP 18th May - EDD?
Aly323 - BFP? - EDD 31st Jan
Applecharlotte - BFP 29th May - EDD?
Papertiger - BFP 31st May - EDD?
wannamummy - BFP 1st June - EDD ?
pipsicles - BFP 6th June - EDD ?

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Spirael · 14/06/2010 09:18

Morning all! I hope everyone is doing ok today, and that it's the start of a good week for everyone.

It is a little frightening at how close everything is getting, Hermya! I'll be 35 weeks at the end of this week... Only two more weeks until Gadget is considered fully cooked and things could start at any moment! Though I still strongly suspect I'll be running a few days late rather than going early.

To be honest, it feels kind of weird to know that I'm not working full time again until next year, over nine months from now. Sure I'm popping in for sporadic days, but that'll just be going over emails and new processes. I won't have any projects to fix until next year - when I'll be juggling being a Mum as well. It's like the end of one era and beginning of a new one!

Hee, I might get a bit of 'me time' at some point Yorkshire, but currently I have a huge A4 page of chores that DH and I wrote out over the weekend. I'll point out quickly that I asked him to help me do that, rather than him giving me all this work to do.

Having the list means that I have something to try and chip away at over the next few weeks, so I can feel like I'm achieving something and getting somewhere. Even if it's only doing little jobs like clearing the random stuff out of the coffee table or taking a few bits and pieces to the tip. It's designed to help me maintain what little sanity remains!

I should still be ok for my homebirth, bunnygirl. MW is coming over this afternoon to check my house is suitable. Then as long as my BP stays down, the LO stays in the right position and they don't find anything worrying in any of the various samples they take, I'm approved for homebirth as long as I go naturally at some point between 1st July and 5th August. Any earlier and they'll likely drag me in due to prematurity, any later and Gadget will likely be being forcibly evicted.

Anyway, I also have the health visitor coming over this afternoon to introduce herself and drop off the mysterious Red Book, as well as check my house is suitable for child raising. So I'd better get tidying, otherwise she could well give me a scolding!

chancewouldbeafinething · 14/06/2010 19:42

Hi Ladies - hope you all had a good weekend
I was away at the in-laws...managed to watch the england game in the loudest dodgiest pub ever (was an experience let me tell you, i learnt some interesting songs, and i never have to go there again ) I also caught up with a friend and her 11 month daughter, she is a handful and a half, i kept thinking oh no will this be me next year?

hermya yes it does sound like that doesnt it...it would be a nice place to be planted though. Well done on the make up, i am keeping an eye out for glamour now

yorkshire gaviscon is ok to use, i got a huge bottle on prescription. hope you feel the energy boost soon!

ozzie & aly my goodness you have a challenge, i hope you can relax the diets soon.

bunny stop it you are making me tired! and sunburn? it has been horrible here...we cant wait to get back to sydney now!

spirael i hope the visit went well today!

Ozziegirly · 15/06/2010 05:24

Spirael good luck with the home visit, not long at all to go now!

I have my appointment with the diabetes dietician on Thursday and then endocrinologist next Wed, so I'll let you know how that goes. Still feel fine at the moment though.

We had a lovely long weekend - DH and I went to see Cat Stevens on Sunday night which was just brilliant, so enjoyable.

I had an emotional moment when he sang "Father and Son". I was kind of holding it together, and the they started flashing up all these photos of him with his son. And then to top it all, DH leant over and patted my bump. It was a good thing it was dark as I had tears at that point!

bunny your level of exercise is very impressive! I have been doing pilates and we went for a long walk on the beach yesterday, but it wasn't 11ks....

fudgecat · 15/06/2010 08:30

have not had time to read the recent posts - hope you are all ok.

Just thought i would give you a quick update. Went for my 20 week scan yesterday and got very bad news. Baby is alive but only measuring 16 weeks - had 4 scans and saw 4 consultants and the prognosis looks grim. Got to go for an amnio this morning

just not stopped crying

OneOf8 · 15/06/2010 10:10

Thinking of you Fudgecat x

Ozziegirly · 15/06/2010 11:15

Oh Fudge, I don't know what to say. I am so sorry to hear this news, I honestly can't imagine what you're going through.

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

Ozziegirly · 15/06/2010 11:15

Oh Fudge, I don't know what to say. I am so sorry to hear this news, I honestly can't imagine what you're going through.

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

addie81 · 15/06/2010 12:55

fudge - thinking of you. Keeping fingers crossed that there is still some hope.

Hermya321 · 15/06/2010 13:12

Fudge Thinking of you at this time, you're in my thoughts and prayers!!

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Spirael · 15/06/2010 14:14

I'm so sorry to hear things didn't go well at the 20 week scan, fudgecat. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that things might still be ok, that there was some date confusion, a machine/user error or that you just have a particularly petite baby! If everything doesn't turn out ok, I hope that the hospital are good and efficient at dealing with the situation as gently as possible.

Not too much to report here, the various visits went ok yesterday. Was most put out though that the health visitor didn't want to look around my house. After I put in all that effort to make it sparkle! Ah well, at least I now have a nice clean house. My parents will be in shock when they visit at the weekend!

The MW has approved my house for a homebirth and for the most part everything still looks good. However Gadget decided yesterday to go for an oblique position, which apparently is diagonal. MW thinks head down still, which is better than oblique breech, but oblique is still not great apparently.

If Gadget doesn't shift by the next appointment, I might get brought in for another scan. If the positioning isn't good, then ELCS was mentioned.

My private healthcare would actually cover going to a private hospital for an ELCS, but I still have my sights on that water home birth... I'm optimistic that Gadget will shift. Apparently they still move around a fair amount right up until 36 weeks, so I have another week or two yet to get Gadget shifted!

Was reading the Spinning Babies website and, to DH's amusement, assuming all kinds of unladylike positions in my efforts to facilitate Gadget moving. Hopefully it'll work! [crosses fingers]

And now a question for our resident dentist! BunnyGirl I was at the dentist earlier. She saw my bump and spontaneously decided to put a 'dental seal' on one of my back molars to protect it, because apparently I'm going to have less time to brush. (Slightly alarmed at the concept that having a newborn will stop me finding a couple of mins to brush my teeth!)

By all accounts a dental seal fills the natural fissures in the tooth to basically stop food from getting trapped down there. Is that right? According to Google, it's also normally done on children rather than adults. I'm 28 so not exactly a child...

Anyway, my main query is that while I was enjoying my lunch an hour or two after the appointment, apparently I also enjoyed dining on some dental sealant. Most of it broke off and, um, got eaten. There's still some left, so I think the actual fissure itself is still filled.

Is that meant to happen? And should I be worried about ingesting a relatively small amount of the sealant? I'm mostly assuming it's fine, but figured I might as well check, if that's ok.

pixiestix · 15/06/2010 14:18

Oh god Fudge. I can't even imagine what you are going through. It is so cruel to have got this far and then be faced with such a horrible situation.
I hope you have got your DH there with you.

mumnerves · 15/06/2010 20:52

fudge so sorry to hear your news Life can be so cruel sometimes, I'm with spirael that hoping even if it's 1% chance that everything is ok with your LO. Big hugs,can't even imagine how you must be feeling x

ozzie good luck with your new diet, sounds like you've good advice from aly

spirael glad to hear your home visits went ok, I think I'd be really miffed if I cleaned up and down and she didn't look round too!

aly hope the MS gets better soon, it is AWFUL isn't it? It will go, even though at the moment you probably can't remember eating anything normal. x

Well, this weekend has gone to a whole new different level for me, 8 days since last time I threw up and my energy levels were like pre-pregnancy! I can't believe it's like one day I'm feeling yuck then suddenly I feel really good! Only thing is MS seemed to be the one thing connecting me to being pregnant and am a tad worried now. MW appointment is on Thurs so will be a relief to hear LO's heartbeat

I've got pregnancy brain starting too Went to make a toastie with the toastie maker, put bread, cheese then closed it without the top bread pieces worst thing was I kept looking at these two pieces of bread on the side thinking there's something wrong here but I can't figure out what for ages till I smelt the burnt cheese!

Have a good week everyone, sorry if I missed anyone out, will try and catch up more now!

aly323 · 15/06/2010 21:24

Oh Fudge, I truly hope your baby is ok. I can only imagine how you must be feeling right now and I've shed some tears just thinking about how scary your situation must be for you. I'm so, so sorry- you're very much in my thoughts right now.

Ozzie, obviously I'm still hormonal, I also got a little teary thinking about your DH patting your tummy at the Cat Stevens show.

Spireal, I'm very happy to hear the visit went well. Can't you just reason with Gadget? Hopefully you're fancy moves will get baby mopving right into position asap.

Mumsnerves I can't wait for that change to come for me. I'm up and down with the sickness right now, but have some yuckiness every day. Some days it lasts the whole day. I think I've had pregnancy brain my whole life, so that won't be anything new for me. DH still hasn't gotten over the big, wet bag of frozen blueberries I accidentally placed in the utensil drawyer last week.

DH has decided to tell his family that we're expecting. He emailed our little ultrasound picture to his sister knowing that she'll call his parents immediately. They're in Czech, so it'll be hours before we hear anything. I'm very excited- I know they're going to be through the roof with the news.

bunnygirl80 · 16/06/2010 05:04

fudge I'm so sorry to hear you didn't get good news at your scan. You and your DH are in my prayers.

spirael I wouldn't worry too much about swallowing a bit of sealant. I would normally only do sealants for kids, but there's no reason why adults can't have them. If there's still a bit of sealant left on the tooth it might be worth getting it looked at as occasionally if only part of it's come away, food etc could get underneath it and start to cause decay.

felicityFlick · 16/06/2010 07:42

Thinking of you fudge xxx

WhiteRoses · 16/06/2010 08:01

Hi,

I've fallen behind yet again, and don't have time for a proper catch-up. I just wanted to say how sorry I am for Bellaby, Chalky and Fudge. Really hope it's not as bleak as it appears, Fudge. I'll be thinking of you. x

Also, OneOf8 - thank you very much for all the advice on the job front. It gets more complicated by the day but I've e-mailed a load of questions to HR and am hoping for a reply soon. The company has been alright generally at providing us with information, but I think it's just my unique situation, with maternity leave kicking in halfway through the whole process, that complicates things. Some of the questions I asked haven't even been discussed yet, so hopefully decisions will be made soon and then they'll let me know. Thanks again though. x