Due May 2010: Into the third trimester we go, can the bumps get any bigger?

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So here's the continuation of the thread previously known as Due May 2010: Where we get a 'bloom' just in time for the christmas mayhem???
Let's see if this one lasts up until the first birth... Knowing how chatty we can be, I doubt it!

Hi All

No idea what PPH is, sorry!

Re baby in room - we moved DS1 into his room when he was about 11 weeks and dropped the v early morning feed, he slept through until 7 months, and then it all went to pot when he started teething. I would sit in his room trying to get him back to sleep for night after night, which lasted until I went back to work, and then he came in with us as I just couldn't cope with work and sleep deprivation! Now I wish I'd done it earlier - when he is well, he sleeps lovely in his own bed, never has a problem with going to sleep in his own bed, but so much easier to have him in with us when he isn't well. I certainly won't be putting myself through all the sleepless nights with this one!

Loving the pram talk - I am in the one-pram-and-out club I'm afraid. Loved the Mamas and Papas pram that we had, was a lie flat pram, pushchair, crib, all in one. I only changed when DS1 was about 14 months and I got a lightweight buggy that was easier to get in and out of the car. We had the silver cross pop - and I have to say I hate it, the wheels are useless. I will definitely be getting a new lightweight at the appropriate time, but I am sticking with my M & P for now.

SK - sorry you had such a rubbish MW appointment, I thought it was a new government policy to encourage women to have a choice and support for home birth if they requested them? Can you find anything on the web to support you in your choice, or ask on here? Someone will be able to point you in the right direction, I am sure.

ML - that is rough on the induction. I agree with your DH though - it will up to the Consultant to decide on your medical management, MWs are not God (although they like to think they are - with apologies to anyone on here who is a midwife. I had v bad experience first time round with the ward midwives, which is a story for another day!)

Sorry to everyone who is ill or having trouble sleeping. I find once I get off to sleep I sleep like the dead (even slept through DS1 waking up at last night so DH had to deal with him!) but its the getting off to sleep that I have difficulty with. I seem to go all itchy and restless and can't switch my mind off. Horrible.

Other than that, all well here. Managing to avoid coughs, colds and general bugs, need less work and more sleep, but only 7 weeks to go, three days per week, which my my reckoning gives me 21 more days in work. When I type it like that, it doesn't seem so long to do everything that I need to do....!!

ML - bless your ds

SK - surely its your choice at the end of the day where you give birth, they just have to make sure your informed. at you getting another scan and amazed at you and the others who bf for so long. I found it really difficult and so stopped after a few days but can't imagine how you managed for all those months with that much broken sleep.

DD is back to normal and what with that and work being really hectic I'm exhausted. My sleep is broken to as getting difficult to turn over in bed, seemed to have expanded over night.

On a sad note, the situation with my friends baby came to an end today which was a relief but extremely heart breaking.

New thread filling out nicely already

I had a very uneventful MW visit this week except that DH had come along for the first time. He wanted to hear the heart beat and see what else he might be missing out on. I don't think he's planning to come again

We were both a bit surprised though to see how deeply MW poked around in the bump though to feel where baby was. I'd never imagined that was possible, or safe but didn't even hurt. So far seems like baby is lying head down - hope he stays there!

Anyway, I have now produced an uncomfortable pregnancy sympton for myself: back ache! Quite sudden and right behind the bump. This morning, after very very little sleep I could only walk with paracetamol and by leaning backwards. Luckily today was my antenatal yoga class and feel better much better after it. I've to report back next week after being given some stretches to fix it.

To be honest, I'm not sure if this is really a normal pregnancy symptom or if it's just too much slouching. It has been a difficult week letting go of house we were trying to buy and of the flat we've been in for 10 years. Good enough reason to slouch for a few days I reckon.

Anyway, nice to hear everyone's news and plans.

itshappenedagain - congrats on getting LO's dad to contribute to pram. You're getting a bee right? From what I can tell from Ebay it looks like people don't choose just one colour. I've seen so many bugaboos for sale with multiple sets of coloured fabrics. You can also get fabrics on ebay, so you can always change your mind about colour - again and again

littleowls - your day in woods sounds fantastic - if that's not going to help you blood pressure I don't know what will

hobnob - hope you get a better view of baby in next scan. looking forward to hearing what the news is

hollyoaks - nice to hear of your dd's recovery, but whatever is happening with your friends baby sounds truly very sad indeed. Don't know what to say.... very sorry...

hope things work out for anyone arguing with the midwives.

best wishes to everyone else

Cripes, i disappear for a mini break with DP and a new thread not only has formed but is well and truely broken in
We finally have a date for a detailed heart scan on 19th feb... so much for them saying they wanted to see me before 27wks lol. Looking forward to seeing LO again but at the same time v aprehensive about it.
Currently measuring a wk over what i'm ment to be (i'm putting that down to cake) so therefore shouldn't look too big but according to everyone who sets eyes on me i'm mahoosive

Is there anyone else out there who hasn't even thought about prams yet? or am i the only one? it seems alot of effort and tbh, i'm feeling v lazy (totally unlike me!!)

And to make everyone feel a bit better... it looks like i've come down with the Norvovirus Back home all my friends/friends LO's/parents/pub landlord have had it in the last month or so and in my 4day break i seemed to have picked it up - today will be day no 2 off work because of it, feel unbelieveably guilty about it but DP has put his foot down and told me to stay in bed for the day... shame he's already at work so no tea, toast and sympathy ;)

Anyhoo will love you and leave you... random shite on catch-up to watch

xxxx

hey schipo if it doesn't go away come into my work and i'll take a look: my nanny is off sick today, but i'll be back in work on Monday: i obviously wont charge you and maybe we could finally have that coffee?

SK - sorry you had such a bad appointment Extra scan isn't bad I guess. Can you get a second opinion from someone?

I'd have loved to have DD in with us for longer tbh, would have made the nights much easier. She won't sleep in our bed which is a real pain. She gets so over-excited and will spend the entire night climbing over us both and then getting off the bed and exploring We've tried it every now and then when she's been ill or something and it's a nightmare. Last time she was very poorly she was in our bed one night but didn't sleep. Last time she slept in our bedroom in a cot she woke up 6/7 times each night and then got up at 5am. I'm hoping this one will be a bit more content to sleep in with us.

Squirtsmum - sorry about the norvovirus, you must feel terrible

Hollyoaks - sorry about your friends' baby

Hi sweetkitty, I found this thread about a week ago very interesting, don't know if you saw it:
Concerned about not getting the birth you want?

morning all. Is it bed time yet??? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN.....

SK, i had my 3rd and 4th at home! Midwives can only advise you, legally they can't deny you care unless there are serious medical issues. I am hoping to have this one at home, but being number 5, PPH risk is higher according to the midwife i saw at my booking in visit (but me and her have never got on and shes sent me for unneccessary tests, scans and appointments anyway with all my others just cos she thought she could!!) All the other midwives are for me having a HB. I had the same midwife attend for both homebirths and she is fantastic! Not even questioned me wantinga HB this time, and just rolled her eyes when i told her the other midwife wanted me to see a consultant first. She feels the same as me lol.

Squirtsmum, hope you are better soon

Hollyoaks hope your dd is better now

ML glad ds had a nice time.

I am very tired and achey today. My dog is going downhill really. She's woken up in a wee filled bed every morning for the past 3 mornings Took her over the road last night, we have a play area there and she just wasn't that bothered. Just had her head to the ground and kept turning to come home. So sad to think she won't be here to see the baby

Sorry to hijack this lovely thread - I do tend to have a nosey at how you are all getting on (To those of you who are thinking 'who the hell is she' - I was on the 1st and 2nd threads before I m/c sadly in Sept)

Just wanted to say hi to everyone and also to SweetKitty OMG you're having a boy And you thought you could only have girls

Am soooooo chuffed for all of you, I'm 15 weeks along now, and have quite a bump myself.

Take care everyone xxxx

hello kaylo!!! Hope you are doing ok. take care x x x

Hollyoaks..so sorry to hear about your friends baby

Kaylo..lovely to hear from you! so pleased that everything is going ok

I have a sinus infection and a chest infection and feel like death...we are now registered with a GPs but they have a system that you have to phone at 8.30 am for an appt..impossible as Im doing the school run at the time..so will have to soldier on until next weds when DH is off work...aside from the infection..I got a better nights sleep last night after going out and buying a dream geni pillow..pricey..but worth it!

hello all!
*kaylo, glad to hear that things are going well!

memorylapse- i would go down to GPs, as that system sound s a bit like oiurs and its crap...we also have a call back at 2 pm for pm emerg apps...oh and you can only have one ailment in an emergancy
hope that you manage to get some sleep, feeling like death isnt helped by lack of it!

im still trying to decide on what colur to get, may get the red, as knowing me i will buy differnt hoods etc for it. my brothers have said that they will buy Ds the buggy board and seat, to help me out a bit more...would love a pregnancy where you have a partner to do these things with you...but cant complain as i am very blessed with my family and friends.
anyway im off to take Ds to pre school and go do some voluntary placement to keep my brain functioning!

argh argh argh no time to even read and catch up. Drama has broken out over the issue of baby surname. About to get in car and drive five hours up to Yorkshire to spend all weekend with MIL (have never done this sober before!) who is kicking up massive sulk over everything. Calm, calm, calm. Am taking laptop with me and will claim urgent work if all gets out of control.

Kaylo - lovely to hear from you and glad things are going well

Angel - about your dog, it must be really hard.

Itshappenedagain - very exciting choosing colours for your Bee! Does the buggy board come with a seat? That sounds v.useful.

ML - that GP system sounds terrible, hope you feel better soon. Could you wait until the surgery's closed and try the after hours GP? Ours is pretty good around here.

LuckyC - good luck with sulking MIL, mine has bad form with that (although is behaving herself these days, bliss!). Is it just her that has a problem?

itshappenedagain..I phoned back and the receptionist said quite rudely...phone back after 4..we cant say you will get an appt though as we are full...not really good enough..so I phoned day assesment and they are going to get my community MW to ring the GP up and insist on an appt..the HCA in day unit who I know well now!..said she was disgusted that they turned away a 27 week gestational diabetic with a chest infection who has lots of other health problems..she said dont go to casualty as they dont advise pregnant ladies in third tri to go to there.

Ooooh, Lucky - I had that with DD1 - MIL went mad when my DP of 10 years and I decided that the baby would have my surname. Not only am I a fervent feminist, who can't fathom why LOs should automatically have the paternal surname, but my dad had died when I was young and he'd be the only grandparent who wouldn't be actively involved in LO's life, so we felt it would be fitting for her to have his name.

MIL went bonkers - as did several of DP's aunts and great aunts...

As it happens the bast*d cheated on me with a 'friend', starting when I was heavily pg, and we split when I found out about the affair when LO was 8 months old. I'm so glad I didn't give into MIL's pressure, as LO and I would have had separate names; as it it, we have the same symbolic family surname.

And it goes without saying that the new baby will have my surname too - just hope that my new DP's female relatives don't kick up the same stink.

Angel - how sad. My elderly puss is decrepit now and her arthritis worsening. I keep hoping she'll make it to see the new baby. She was so fabulous with DD1 and they are such great friends now. DD will be devastated when she dies. It's a tribute to how much they mean to us that their demise is so heartbreaking

Good luck with the docs, Memory

Lucky..I remember having the same nightmare with DD1..I wasnt married to her dad..but his mum insisted she was given their surname..massive rows ensued..in order to smooth over troubled waters..I eventually agreed to a compromise and gave DD a double barrelled surname...when DP and I split and I met DH..she took his name which she was allowed to be known as..but legally still has to have the double barrelled surname which she hates

Sympathy and cake to everyone having a tough time at the moment.

Lucky - my MIL is also a 6 hour drive away in yorkshire! Has its upsides and downsides. On the plus side, we only have to do it about twice a year, because it's only really do-able when there's a long weekend. On the down-side, they're not going to be exactly on-hand to help with childcare!

Angel - loved your comment on the ironing post! I'm with you - tumbledry, smooth and fold up tight, no ironing required. Only thing that gets ironed in our house are DH's work shirts, which either he or the cleaner does. I won't have my stuff ironed (apart from one pair of linen trousers), it makes everything fade and wear out twice as quickly!

hear hear! I never iron clothes unless they have become particularly creased in the drawer, or it's a dress for a wedding or something. Dh does his shirts.
My Mum used to iron all our stuff, even pants crazy lady. Then it would just sit in piles outside our rooms getting kicked over and creased again

Eek, glad I don't have the surname nightmare...although dh's surname is a nightmare in itself trying to find anything that matches it

ML will your dd change her name when she's 18? My best friend's parents got divorced and her Mum remarried, she and her bro both eventually had their names legally changed to their step-dad's.

I don't iron much either, only DH's workshirts and he does those tbh. DD has a couple of party outfits that need it.

We don't have the surname nightmare although our surname is DH's mother's maiden name and there's only one other person in the family (estranged) who actually has it. We were quite keen to change it when we got married but were too lazy to get round to it. It's unfortunate because DH's first name and surname combine really badly and he gets mocked endlessly for his name .

Pets getting old is horrible We had a cat that lived to 22 and it was heartbreaking to see him decline.

twentiethcenturyheffa- board and seat are sold seperately, but have been calling around about deals, should be able to get pram, carseat, adapters, footmuff, nest, seat and board for around £640, delivered to my door, which also makes things much easier, as boxes of baby stuff are being kept in my nans house untill i either go into labour, or my due date when it will be "safe" to have the stuff in the house. luckly she only lives over the road! im taking Ds to pick the colour so he feels involved...will probably choose red as his pram is red and he is a big liverpool fan! im very excited now, everything finally seems to be getting there. and i have made an executive descion to carry on as if los father wont be involved then anything else is a bonus...at least hes agreed to pay for the pram so its money i can use for something else.

angel sorry to hear that the dog is getting worse, you become torn as you want them around as long as possible but at the same time dont want to have them suffer. my friend is in hospital at the min witha fractured pelvis due to her elderly dog, she slipped on the wee...not good as shes 34 weeks pregnant, she still doesnt know what to do!

cupcakefairy...DD is 19 now and hasnt shown any sigh of wanting to legally change her name..I married DH 11 years ago and she took his surname..meaning that she is "known as"..but hasnt legally changed it

Morning everyone, sorry not posted for ages! I do look on here and read everyones posts though just never have much to say but thought I had better let you know I'm still here. I've been suffering really badly with spd and sciatica so not getting much sleep at the moment. Baby is kicking so much now and feels like I've grown alot in a couple of weeks as people can not see that I'm pregnant and not just tubby . I will be 28 weeks on Monday.

I've just ordered a mamas and papas pilko travel system and a moses basket for the baby. I'm so excited about them arriving next week. Also I have another scan on the 9th of march to see if the placenta has moved as when I was 21 weeks it was completely covering the cervix. I hope it has moved as I really don't want to have to have a cs.

I'm all settled in my new house now but I still haven't managed to get a place for eldest in the new school. I am currently driving back and fourth every day which is really annoying. I sit in traffic for ages. I must spend about 3 hours a day in the car just doing school runs. When he does finally get a place it is a 2 minute walk.

I seem to also be suffering with very strong braxton hicks at the moment. They can quite hurt sometimes.

I hope everyone else is doing ok and I love reading what your all up to, makes me realise I'm not the only one that gets excited about getting a new pram as my dh doesn't seem to get excited like me!

xxxx

hi ladies have calmed down a bit after the MW visit, I think it is really rubbish the way she is trying to put me off a HB with all this talk of PPH. Yes there is a slightly increased risk of PPH in a multiparous woman but an instrument delivery or a csection carries more risk IYSWIM there are more than one risk factor. Also the drugs they give in hospital for PPH are the same as the ones the MWS carry. Also it's not like if I was bleeding heavily and it wasn't stopping and was getting to the danger level they wouldn't take me to hospital, it doesn't all gush out at once and any trained MW would stop the signs. I have had natural third stages the last twice but had syntometrin there just in case. I think the MW is really anti HB she persuaded my other friend not to have one with the PPH risk and also told her she was going to refuse to attend one as it was Christmas and the woman lived 5 mins walk from the hospital

The thing is for me it's not like having a HB is the be all and end all, if I thought I could make it to the hospital in good time then all and good but a planned homebirth is safer than delivering in a corridor or car. This malpresentation thing is annoying me as well, yes the baby is breech but I am only 27 weeks he has time to turn, if I were 37 weeks then it would be a worry.

So am going for this scan on Monday so they can tell me he is fine and it's just she couldn't feel him properly, then going to phone her and book a HB anyway, the thing is you can change your mind at any time but they need to get things in place early.

lizzie - you sound very busy and what a school run, I get excited at the thought of a new pram as well.

itshappenedagain - which pram are you getting again?

LuckyC - hope your visit isn't too stressful, the DDs all have DPs surname, I think we will get married one day but I doubt I will ever change my name now seems odd after all these years being me IYSWIM. My MIL died last year and I don't speak to my Mum but we have always just done what we want anyway, I think we had a few comments about not being married but they gave up after a few years.

ML - hope you are feeling better today, I always seen to get sinus infections when pregnant and they are so painful, like someone has jumped on your face.

Kaylo - nice to see you again, yes still in shock still don't quite believe it, a boy!

Angel - thank you for your kind words and so sorry to hear about your dog too

Heffa - DD3 won't sleep in our bed now though, the other two will come in in the morning for cuddles and sometimes fall back asleep but she comes in and plays too much. She is a fantastic sleeper now don't think I can remember the last time she woke in the night (touch wood) she goes down awake and is sound after about 5 mins, same during the day. Just hope this one follows in her footsteps.

Hollyoaks - you really don't get unbroken sleep when BFing and cosleeping, the baby wakes and actually you can feel them stirring so they never get to the crying stage, boob gets popped in and they fall back asleep feeding as do you most times, as they get older you feed them half asleep so you don't really wake. Once they are about 6 months I am sure they have helped themselves in the night without me knowing that much about it I have a bedside cot at one side of the bed so we have the space (big bed too) and they cannot fall out. Once they have fed they usually roll away from you, once they are big enough. Very lazy.

Mollybob - thanks for your advice, the reason I have had natural third stages for nos 2 and 3 was I very nearly had a retained placenta with no1, it's more of a wait and see approach really, if I deliver the placenta myself then all and well but if things are stalling then I am not against the syntometrin being given to speed things up, it may be a compromise that if I have another HB I have a managed third stage as a preventative step.

DP has gone off to sort out the new car today!!!

Morning everyone!

I'm with everyone on the ironing issue. Nothing gets ironed unless its for a vary special occasion. I was told once that if you iron a garment once you've got to do it everytime.

Angel - sorry about your dog, it is heart wrenching.

It must be really difficult with names and which name to give to LO. Families can be so easily offended so easily. Glad I don't have this worry, it must be difficult trying to keep people happy!

Lizzie - hope your scan goes well and that it shows what you want.

I ordered my pram yesterday, that was the highlight of my day. I ended up getting the icandy cherry in mulberry. DH has said he doesn't mind pushing a purple pram, and that we probably won't be going far anyway! Got a nappy sausage making thing from asda for £6.00. The friend I was with said they were great so I bought one. I'm so easily led!

Is anyone else obsessed with feeling the baby's movements. I think about it all the time, if I haven't felt anything for 10-15 minutes, I start to worry!! I know I'm being ridiculous but I can't help it. Please tell me I'm not the only one!

Have a good weekend everyone x