Due January 06 - Thread 2

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Thanks girls, for letting me start this thread - bloody MACs (obviously could be user error!)

Went to the docs yesterday and he thinks may be a Feb 1st baby - but 2nd babies are often early - hope they are as dd was 9 days late - hence I am in the Oct rather than Sept post-natal thread!

Hope to hear from the midwife soon as I will want to book a CVS as I am now 38 - had one with dd last year.

Has anyone got a closer age difference that I will hopefully have - there will only be nearly 16 months between dd and dd2/ds - eeeek!

Welcome to all the other newies

Spangles, re: your DS and night waking. Have you read the Super Nanny or Little Angels books? Both v good and offer practical solutions that don't leave you in bits and feeling as if you're the cruel-est mum in the world!

Just a thought.

hi georgieM yup baby5 due in december. got loads of tips on offer, where do i start?????

i tell my children "i love you" every single day. watch the look in their eyes! aaah heaven! but i stand my ground with discipline, my yes MEANS yes and my no MEANS no.

Goodnes me, we really need some positive energy to start gathering around us January ladies at the moment - am sending out good thoughts and big virtual hugs to all, especially Spub and Rachey... I tell you, it's really helping to put my (so far straightforward) life into perspective.

Elly - I too seem to have a rather over-large belly for only 8 weeks... although this is my first PG, so not really sure if it's bloating or what - I have read about getting a 'thickening waistline', but mine is well beyond thickening !! DH keeps telling me it's because I'm carrying twins! This is of course rubbish - not that I've even had a scan yet, so really who knows?!

I also am having very 'strong' (ie. deeply coloured and quite smelly) pees, but not having to go every five minutes like I thought I would (again, according to the books...). As for sex, all feeling normal for me, no idea what effect thrush has, sorry.

I saw my doctor last week for first time, and she said she would give the midwife my details to contact me and arrange the 'booking in appointment'... was a bit miffed really, as I couldn't see the point of me having taken half a day off of work to see the doctor - if all she does is say "oh well done, I'll contact the midwife"! But there you go, I am learning every day with this PG, it's all new.

Hope everyone else is doing OK.

morning all - hugs to Rachey and spub ((((hugs))))
sex is not painful at the mo, more the opposite in fact, I'm with Britney on how good sex is while pregnant. Try drinking some cranberry juice if you think you might have a urinary tract infection that makes weeing stingy, thrush has a smelly discharge during the day normally (sorry if tmi)
My roughness has been coming and going, I'm hoping it is starting to settle a bit.

Morning girls - how are we all feeling today?

Weirdly, I feel full of energy but also a little sicky - strange combination!

I have been told that you start to show in 2nd pregnancies earlier than first time around - the bottom of my tum is definitely getting firmer and sticking out a bit more. Apparently, water retention does make the tum area swell. This is a bit of a bugger as I am desperately trying to breathe in as being pregnant isn't public news at the moment and I don't want to have to tell work yet as I am on maternity leave and don't go back to work until August when I will be 14 weeks - don't think I am going to be able to breathe in this long.

Benefit of yo-yo dieting in my past is that my tum is nice and roomy so dd just filled my tum so it was firm and not baggy - and I didn't get any stretch marks. Hopefully, this will be the same this time around!

Hope you all have a good day - looks like it is going to be sunny where I am.

Hi y'all. How's everyone? Seems as if the Actimel is working wonders for me. Have only heaved today as opposed to all out vomming. Still feel queasy but no where near as bad as last week.

HM1 - am feeling same as you. Don't feel so much as if I've been run over by a truck!

Anyone else still suffering from hormones? Am sure I wasn't this irritable with DD. Want to rip people's heads off.....and inflict lots of pain. V short fuse at the mo!

Fonzie - my DD seems top have grown horns as well. And developed an acute case of deafness! Will not do anything I ask. Have to ask 5 times.... arrggghhh. Am finding her a handful at the mo. Think it's just a case of her being a 'threenager'.....

Am going to bite the bullet and get maternity trousers on Friday. Normal ones just too uncomfortable. Even my 'large' trousers aren't doing up!

What's everyone else been up to?

Hi there ladies.
Hope everyone is well. Spub, I really hope wednesday brings good news your way. The waiting must be terrible.. Rachey, I too never know what to say in these circumstances so can only send lots of hugs to you and hope your ok. GeorgieM, I havent read super nanny/little angels books but will try and get them from library. Funny enough DS slept through last night til 6.15 am and I am sure its coz i left him to cry himself to sleep (cruel I know) but he was so tired tonight when I fed him he fell hard and fast asleep!
Still waking up with that yucky feeling... the one where you feel like you had a really good night out. Drinking lucozade is helping but am trying to limit it to 1 small bottle a day.
Next ante natal is next monday (13th) and go for 12 wk scan on 29th.

Truckerkaz... How old ore your children? I thought I would like 4 children but am going to call it a day at 3, I am sooo tired i dont think I could do it all again Hope all you ladies are all Blooming. see you all soon

I am with you on that georgieM... clothes getting tight so have been looking through next directory for maternity gear. I feel like its obvious that I'm pg. I really need to let it all hang out!
I told DS1 yesterday that we are going to have another baby, hes 4 and a half and DS2 is 1 yr old and he seems really happy about it. It seems really strange to think I will be a mother of 3 because only 2 years ago we were facing the fact that we might not be blessed with any more children and that DS1 may be an only child. Now we will be a family of 5. Cant wait... bring it on.

Thanks for all of the kind messages. Will let you all know how it goes tomorrow - should have the results of the HcG test late tomorrow.
Rachey - hope things are as well as they can be with your dad. Hugs to you.
Hope the rest of you are hanging in (or hanging out!) there.
More later.

Hi

Really sorry about all the sadness and worry people are facing. Look after yourselves!

I was really ill on Sunday - not medically ill but just felt so bad I could not get out of bed or do anything.

Anyway went Monday to reflexologist (she stopped my morning sickness when I went to her last time when I was still ill at 5 months - hadnt heard of this treatment before that time) Cant believe it but she has managed it again - at peak of MS at 8 weeks. I feel like a new person - dont know how she does it but its like a miracle. I can do things again and eat and behave fairly normally.

Hope maybe helps someone.

Im out of really fitted trousers but some stretchier things still fit. I thought Id be worse. I have a couple of cheap ethniccy wrap around tie skirts that I find brilliant and will wear a lot!

All the best to Spub.

Hope things get better for those not having the best times now

MF

Hi all,

Just popping in to wish spub all the best for today.

I go for my 8 week scan tomorrow to check babys heartbeat. I am so scared, I'm having trouble breathing at the moment. I know theres no reason as have had a healthy pregnancy since last missed m/c but still....

Hope your all OK.

rachey, sending you and your family my best wishesxxxxxx

spub hope that the results bring good news today.
Still feeling grim on and off, on last night for some reason and a bit this morning. Am booked into accupuncture today and hoping that she can clear my nausea. I've had the booking for a month now so have been holding out.
Apart from that all is OK - except my Nan can't keep a secret obviously as we saw some relatives on Sunday that were in London from the States who she wasn't expecting us to see and they knew so am assuming that the whole side of that family know now.

Morning ladies.

Spub, just sending you hugs and fairy dust for good news. If you feel up for it, let us know. Will be thinking of you.

Spangles, try not to think of yourself being cruel. It's not cruel to teach them how to get back to sleep. It does seem that way at the time, but just think how awful it would be if he got to 5 and was still having sleep prbs. I am a total fan of Dr Tania Byron now. I think what she says makes so much sense and she makes you realize that you're not being a bad/cruel parent, quite the contrary in fact. Sorry, I'll get off my soap box now!!!!

MS seems to be going a bit now too, just retching at most inopportune moments!. So nice not to be chained to bathroom. Lucozade and Actimel are my saviours! I too feel like new person. Hadn't heard about reflexology.... maybe next time!!!!!

Am counting down days until 23rd when we have 12 week scan.

Horseshoe, hope all goes well with your scan. Fingers crossed for you.

Anyhoo, it's a fab sunny day down here in Wimbledon, so am off to pump up paddling pool and bouncy turtle for DD.

Have a wonderful day ladies. Take good care of yourselves.

Crossed fingers for Spub.

Had my booking appt today and due date has been revised to the 1st Feb - so I'll do more posting on the Feb thread. Got my dating scan on the 23rd - so you never know I may be back.

Feel really fine - so going to enjot it whilst I can.

Hope you laydeez are fine - take care.

Hi Georgie

Im also in WImbledon. Just hung the nappies out and theyll dry in record time today.

Im going to St Helier - unusual I know but recommended by my pregnant GP last time. Where are you going or maybe will you be a home birth?

MF

horseshoe,
wishing you all the best on your scan tomor, Will be thinking of you and waiting to hear how it went..
Minnie

The saga continues....
Had my blood test this morning. Was 104 on Monday now 98. Not a viable pregnancy in any case but they had expected the levels to be around 50 based on the fact that there was no sac to see on the scan.
I have to go back in on Friday for another blood test. The midwife seems to think that because my hormone levels are so low an ectopic is unlikely (though I don't mind saying that I'm bricking it at the thought 'cos it's still not totally ruled out in my mind). It's possible that I've not passed everthing associated with the pregnancy and that I may have a small clot that's skewing the hormone levels.
The doctor is, "happy for me to rest at home and not come in for observation" though if I have any bleeding or pain I have to go up straight away.
By Friday this will have been going on for 10 days. I have really been trying to be brave and rationalise things and I have even got my head around not being pregnant any more but I am now absolutely emotionally worn out and also very fearful of complications. I'm sitting here half-convinved that I'm going to have severe pain at any moment and need an emergency procedure of some kind. Daft, probably but I have been looking for closure on this since Monday and feel like a pinball that keeps getting bounced to another cushion. Can't believe I have to wait another 2 days and just hope that my levels have dropped right down.
Bit of a mare when your best hoped for outcome is a miscarriage.
Sorry to rant. Just wrung out.
Don't want to freak anyone else out and I'm very grateful for all of your kind messages - truly.
Hope all is going fine for the rest of you and will keep you in the loop (unless you'd rather I didn't).

Oh spub, how awful, at least if you know what is going on you can work out how to deal with it within yourself.
((((hugs)))) and hopefully you don't have to go in to have anything procedures.
Keep in touch - you are definately in our thoughts.

Spub I am so sorry for you, I know theres nothing I can say to make things better for you coz I have been where you are now.. 2 years ago. Its horrible waiting for blood results. I truly hope thngs go as well as they can for you and that you concieve again soon. lots of hugs and cuddles to you. x

Hey there Spub. Just logged on. Am so sorry that you're going thru this. Had something similar about five years ago. Can't say anything to make it better, and wouldn't even try, but please know that if you need to cry, rant, scream or anything else, we're here. Just look after yourself and call in all and evey favour you can so you cocoon yourself in love.

Mumfun - whereabouts in Wimbledon? Am trying to make new friends as only been in the area for a while. Finding Wimbledon Park playground a bit difficult to crack!!!!Am going to deliver at Kingston. GP said it was good. DD born in New York, so this is first experience of NHS.... am slightly nervous as will have high risk pg ad had 3 diff docs looking after me in NY!!!!! Am sure I won't get the same over here.

Anyone heard from Rachey? I'm wondering how things are with her dad?

Hi to all,
First off - thanks for all of the support. I had a total wobble tonight and went to Gynae and saw the most wonderful doctor from the Labour Ward. She reassured me that there's no way my pregnancy was ectopic and that my scan on Friday will be the end of all of this. I could have kissed her for the gentle, understanding and very comprehensive feedback she gave to me. I simply needed to know that beyond my pregnancy failing there was nothing else waiting to cause me problems or grief and she was able to give that to me. I doubt she'll ever know how much she has helped and told her that I really hoped our paths would cross again on the Labour ward before too long!

The midwives at EPU have been fab but they seem to work to a bit of a script (no blame to them - who wants sued?) whereas the doctors may have the capacity to make more of a judgement call.

Feel hugely relieved and thankful that things have actually been reasonably "okay" as far as any failed pregnancy can be. Have no regrets or resentment(and boy, did I enjoy my 2 glasses of wine tonight)and just have a far greater appreciation of how precious every succesful pregnancy is.

I wish all of you the very, very best come January and if you don't mind I may post again following my final check on Friday and even lurk or post again at some point in future. If I have any regrets then they are to do with not going through this with some very fabby mumsnetters on this thread. Thanks again and giant hugs and major doses of babydust to the rest of you.

Rachey - special hugs to you re your dad. Hope you are doing ok.Think it's always extra touching when your mumsnet buddies can find it in them to support others when they have their own s**t going on.

Hi

Spub - so glad you found someone who was good to you and made things a bit better. Thanks for your lovely message. I know its a hard sad situation for you but can only hope it resolves itself in the best way for you and hope to hear from you more.

Georgie - I go to a friendly playgroup run by the NCT on Wednesday morning . Its near to me in South WImbledon but because its NCT it does attract wider participation than just local - let me know if you would like more details. Also happy to meet up as I always like to make more friends - goood to in London as friends always leaving as well as moving into the city.

Have to say DS being an angel at the mo - does he know somethings up. I have told him but hes a bit young to understand is he? (1.5)

Hope Rachey youre ok.

Take care of yourselves everybody

MF

So sorry to hear the time you're having, Spub. Don't really know what to say but think it's very ok to wobble. Hope things go as well as poss and you get lots of luv and support, x

Elly

Hi girls, I haven't been here in ages so I just spent some time catching up on messages. I'm glad to hear some people are feeling a bit better and have found different ways to combat MS. I was very sad to read about Milosmum and of course Spub's ongoing saga. Bring on Friday so you can have your scan and hopefully move on from there.

Things here haven't been too great either. Don't worry, I haven't had any bleeds or any other problems. It's just that dh (after his skin cancer surgery) got an infection and he was quite ill with it. The gp gave him some antibiotics but they were very slow to do anything. So dh went to hospital and they decided to keep him there. So suddenly I had to trapse into London with a hospital bag and fruit etc. While I was there, ds developed a fever so we had to go home so he could rest and get better. DH stayed in hospital all weekend and DS had a temperature all weekend. And I'm pregnant so that was all a bit too much to handle. Luckily, the new week brought much better things. DH was discharged, ds was fine again, MIL came to stay and cooked us dinner, did the washing and shopping, and I went back to work for the first time in a year (end of Mat Leave).

Yesterday my tummy was feeling quite big and tender and no trip to the toilet could make it better. In the end it went away by itself. Chilling on the sofa does wonders!

My parents are more positive about pg now. I told them I didn't like how they reacted and they were shocked I thought they weren't happy. They say they are very happy, just worried about all the things happening in our lives at the moment. I guess we just have a different outlook on life. We see my pg as something positive to help us through these difficult times.

I saw the MW last Saturday and I'm all booked in. She was very kind and said my weight and BMI was fine even though officially I'm slightly overweight. She understood that it was babyfat from ds so she said it didn't really count. Ha ha! I should be getting a letter with a date for a scan at some point but I don't know how soon it will be. Not too long I suppose or they'll be too late to do the nuchal fold. She was also very positive about my chances of having a VBAC as I managed to dilate to 6cm last time. I don't actually believe in it yet, I'll have to see db's head circumference at the scan first. If s/he has a big head like ds, I might seriously consider going for an elective C-section. Oh, and I definitely can't have a waterbirth as I'll have to be monitored the whole time... That's still my dream but I guess it just won't happen.

It's a lovely day here and I'm off so I'd better go and enjoy some of the sunshine. I hope to be back here more regularly now that things in this house have settled down a bit. have a nice day everyone!