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I have gone with Sorky's idea!!!

I am this close (puts two fingers mm apart) to giving up bf. I am so fed up of feeding him then him being so sick and then screaming to be fed 45 mins later.... I dont think I can do it much longer.... Mind you he will starve as he wont take a bottle either I have a freezer full of EBM that he just wont take.... me me me me me

Sorry just having a bad afternoon ds has not stopped crying or being sick....

LB, no-one would blame you for feelinbg frustrated . Is there anyway you can see the HV, or another health professional before 2 weeks? Sounds pretty tough going.

I have six week (at 10 weeks ) check tomorrow so will chat to gp then..

LB, I am so sorry you are having a rough time. I think someone mentioned it but could he be dairy intolerant. It is a good idea to talk to gp about it.

I have just returned from WW and have lost 3.5lb!!!! So 10lb in 4 weeks!!!! I am so pleased with myself!!

Hope you get some good advice from your GP LB.
KAYZ, you seem to be losing weight as a remarkable pace. Well done on today's loss! How much more do you have to go now?

Kay - that's fantastic!! Well done

I'm feeling like my emotions are all over the place again this evening. (Does that mean anything?!)

I popped over to my parents (who are only about a 10 min drive away) and Mum's left me just wanting to curl up in a corner and cry! It's all a bit complicated and I know it's partly me getting things out of proportion. I nearly phoned to say I wasn't going to go as I was feeling tired but knew that would just cause her to fuss so decided to go anyway. Wish I hadn't now! (Btw, how can I get her to realise that there's a difference between fussing and empathy and that smothering does not automatically mean that she's showing she cares! )

Diege, I have about 4 stone left to lose

Ses, No answer I'm afraid but I hope you can sort it out.

LB - so sorry for the rough time you're having. You have done amazingly well to get this far. Don't know if you saw my earlier post mentioning that reflux and dairy intolerance are quite strongly linked. You could try cutting out dairy from your diet (you must cut it out completely) and be prepared for it to take up to a week to be out of your system. There is lots on this on other boards (can't remember which). Might be worth mentioning to GP. When Paediatrician wanted me to top up DS with formula, she prescribed hypoallergenic formula (apparently to "make sure I gave it to him") - it did work for us - we were 10 weeks in and he had only put on less than 2lbs since he was born due to sickness - it did far more than the meds did. I then gave up bf at 4 months and totally ff him. I know it's a really hard decision. Hope your GP can help. If they could recommend a formula, could your DP feed him and you pump for a couple of days to see if it makes a difference - that way if you decide it doesn't make a difference, you can just resume bfing?

Kayz - well done for weight loss - that's fantastic.

Ses - sorry for your Mum

Diege - sorry for MW - agree with others - why on earth she sees something that will help you as silly, I don't know.

Bad Mummy Alert - DD has slept for 3 separate half hours since 6.30 this morning and that's it - so she fell asleep at 5.40 feeding and I gave in and put her in her car seat (in the house) as she seems to sleep really well in there when we go out, even though she had just filled her nappy (I left her in it) - she was sound. Anyway, my penance is that she woke up 20 mins later, but she is sitting happily in it while DS and I watch CBeebies. DH is in work from 10am to 10.30pm today - I really hope DD settles tonight, but something tells me she won't (ever the optimist, eh?!)

Right, better pay some attention to my DC - told you I'm a bad Mummy!

Thanks Kay. I think I'm just going to have to learn to live with the fussing and smothering.
Our disagreement was to do with my younger brother as she thinks I'mm too harsh on him. She doesn't seem to realise that I helped him grow up in his teens (he's nearly 7 yrs younger than me) whilst she was too busy being depressed and moody and my dad was too busy being drunk. Instead she thinks she can make up for it all with all the fuss and smothering. Doesn't work for me and I think it's stopping my brother from standing on his own 2 feet.

My older brother had the best idea. Mum told him (at the age of 20) she wouldn't approve of him moving out of home unless he was married so he and his gf got married and moved out, are still v happy after 18yrs of marriage and have moved up to Cumbria!

Funnily enough, the disagreement about my younger brother is also to do with him and his gf moving in together/getting married.

She's a control freak!!!!

Stupid thing is that I don't even comment unless she asks my opinion and then I always preface my comments with "Well we're all different" or "He needs to do what's right for him" or some such (hopefully) diplomatic response.

Anyway, I've got typing diarrhoea now so I'll shut up!

Star - sorry x-posted! Sounds like it was the right thing for you to do at the time. Hope you manage the miracle of DD settling tonight as well.

hi

had a great time @ friends
received bedside table and lamp from vertbaudet r great

moosy - glad u r back on choc
exciting having bookijg in ap
diege=great news about midwife except fot not supporting doula
gyo - have fun with nappies
grr 2 friend

kay - well done you

ses - shame about mum

Hello tink!

Glad you're pleased with your shopping
Maybe I go on an internet shopping spree this evening...

DH is on his way home now and we're getting chinese take away as I'm really not in the mood to cook. Should be here in about 30 mins

SES, sounds like you are being extremely reasonable with your mum. You've had some ups and downs over these past few days, so need to relax, pamper yourself(internet shopping)and enjoy your chinese! xx
Hi STAR! I think you sound like you're being an extremelty good mummy . My dd1 used to settle best in the car seat, and then went through a stage of only sleeping in snatches on the changing mat, which wasn't ideal! I'm sure a pattern will emerge gradually - fingers crossed it's tonight for you
KAYZ, you'll get there with the weight loss if you stay as committed as you are now. We all have faith in you!
TINKS, glad you had nice time at friends .
Right, am off for the night I think. Our car has broken down and will cost mega bucks to repair, so dh going round to chat with our car 'share-ees' about possible solutions. Still grumbling to myself about bleedin' midwife and feeling cross now. Can't wait to see their faces in the hossy when she brings her fairy lights out

Thanks for all your comments. I feel a little calmer now. I will mention this to gp tomorrow and ask his advise re dairy. Both children are in bed asleep now and I have had a nice hot bath so feel more relaxed. sorry for moaning

Told DH about parent hassles and feel better for offloading here and on him.
Thanks guys

LB - hope you have a good night and you get some constructive help tomorrow.

Diege - car doesn't sound good. Hope you manage to get something sorted.

I'm off to bed now (early for me but actually quite tired!) but have another stupid first timer question about BH. Some are obviously BH and others I'm not sure whether it's low down BH or what feels like the baby stretching it's arms in my pelvis. All feels a bit tight inside when that happens. Is that more just late low down movements or could it be BH? Don't know if I've described it well enough..

Baby Ses is definitely moving further down as (both types of!) loo trips are becoming far more common and have got a constant stretching feeling going down the v tops of my inside thighs/groin.

Still need to pack baby's bag Keep nagging me!

Good morning

Am full of the joys of spring (though how and why, I have no idea, but it's better than the being under the black cloud that's been following me around all week, have no idea why I was so grumpy either! Maybe it's because we've been under an actual black cloud? Where the bloody hell has that sun got to?!)

I have been reading and keeping up to date, but, I now can't remember all of it, and I'm not sure when I last posted so not sure on what I've commented on or not so here goes....

Ses, really try not to stress about your mum, I know it's tough but you've been feeling great, don't let her spoil it! Hope Chinese and the shopping did the job NCT mum's and dad's get togethers sound fantastic! Almost makes me wish I'd have ever gone to any ante-natel classes! And for goodness sake woman - GET THOSE BAGS PACKED! TODAY!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!

Diege, I think there is a slight stand off between the majority of MW's and Doulas. Broadly speaking they are sort of pulling in different directions, a doula will typically try to encourage the whole natural and spiritual/mental side of things, whereas the MW's are much more medically aware. And I think a labouring woman to most doulas is exciting and beautiful, and they don't have the pressures the NHS puts on MW's which leads to MW's just seeing the next person rolling in IYKWIM? (Disclaimer: I know there are some wonderful MW's, and some pretty crappy doulas!) Had to have a giggle at fairy lights, MW's from DS3's birth would have loved it, MW's from DS1 and 2's would have rather let me give birth in a pitch black dank, damp, dirty cave with big growly hungry bears in it before they accepted something as alien as fairy lights in!

Kay, great going on the weight loss!

LB, I'm not really sure what to say because I have no experience of reflux, or anything like it, and because I think you've had some really usefull advice from Moosy et all, I just really hope you get somewhere with the GP today, be strong and don't let him fob you off, if he doesn't give you any answers (or ways of finding out the answers) tell him you're going to see another doctor, go straight to reception and book another appointment with someone else. This can't carry on for either of your sakes. Really hoping you can get some help today. Have you tried giving him EBM via a cup? It wouldn't help him per se, but it would give your nipples a bit of a chance to rest.

Tink, your girl's room's sound beautiful Picked up a multi-pack of Wispas whilst shopping last night, I said to DH without thinking "oh Tink would love them" cue him looking at me like I've gone off my head!

Moosy, fingers crossed the sickness/aversions will keep improving with the vit b.

GYo, thing's sound like they are settling down nicely I can still remember the first day I came out of the first born baby haze and actually managed to function a little! If it helps, it isn't anywhere near as daunting come baby no.2!

I can't remember any more More to the point, I actually can't see anymore, left glasses upstairs, can't believe it was only 2 months ago and I never wore my glasses, now I can't see without the buggers!

Oooh sorry, that was a bit large for an early morning post.

I'm baccccccccckkkkkkkkk

Not because I forgot anything or anything, nope, just wanted to say to Ses (but not sure if I should, don't want to make a hash of it.... OK here goes....), firstly everything you've described is 100% normal, and please don't worry about this next bit, but at your last MW appointment, did she say whether the baby was engaged or not? All I am thinking, and bearing in mind we're all different etc. the type of movements and feelings you're describing I only got when DS3 went breech. I may very well be wayyyyy off the mark, so please don't worry about it, just keep it at the back of your mind till you next see your MW. When is your next appoinment?

Morning
Lying in bed MNing via phone!

Nat - thanks for all your helpful comments re mum, sensations, bag packing! I saw consultant 10 days ago who said that head was down and 3/5 engaged. Am seeing MW on Tues. I hadn't thought of breech possibility but don't worry, you haven't panicked me! What will happen, will happen! Baby had hiccups this morning for about 10 mins. Nice and noticable as I was lying in bed.

Btw, maybe your black cloud has lifted because it's May today!! Always sounds a lot brighter than April
Of course this does mean that I'm going to be a mum this month!!

Phew

Do you know, it's the hiccups that always got me, the only time I could look at one of the boys and think "OMG he really came from inside me" was when they had hiccups, nothing else could make me imagine, or even understand it, even now when DS1 gets hiccups it always takes me back!

DS1 has an awards assembly this morning, am starting to worry what the bloody hell I'm going to be gabbing on about! Seem to have woken up full of the joys of spring, and total and utter shite!

Hello! You do sound better NAT . I think that old black cloud passes over most of at some point, but good to see you back to your usual self. Thanks for doula comments. I think you're right - midwifery is quite a 'closed' profession and that for many midwives the whole idea of a doula is totally alien etc... I wasn't going to bother with the fairy lights, in fact if I'm honest the whole thought of fairy lights and self-lighting electric candles makes me cringe..but now strangely tempted to go the whole hog just to piss the midwives off . Have also been thinking that I must NOT at all costs give in and have an epidural now...too much pride to lose! Have also been told that the midwife led birth unit is no more, but they have two 'low risk' rooms, no doubt full of the stuff (birth balls etc) that no-one is encouraged to use there!). After much persuasion mw agreed I could come on the hospital 'tour' , so will see what these rooms are like (and take my tape measure to get the right spot for the fairy lights ).
SES, that pressure could be a number of things, all perfectly normal. Could be fully engaged and ready to go! Or just your pelvis opening up a little more under the weight of the head (or bottom ). Bet you feel excited now it's your birth month!
Right, must look for some iron-rich foods to eat - hb level was 8. something, so feeling pretty crap and they can't do my prescription until Tuesday...does anyone know if it's just worth buying the ferrous whatever it is from chemists??
Hope it's as sunny everywhere as it is here!

Self lighting electric candles?

And FWIW, if the MW's would have listened to me, and got the epidural on it's way when I asked for it (waters just broke a few niggly contractions but nothing major, so they wouldn't get it, bwitches!!) I'd have had an epidural with Mikey, the whole natural labour thing (did it with George), isn't really what it's cracked up to be. Having said that, once I'd got it in my head that they weren't going to get me one, it was a case of getting on with it and it is much better after the birth if you're head's clear and you can move about.

Have got serious case of the chatterbugs today, can see it's not a good day to be on here, you'll all be so fed up of my warbling by the end of the day! Apologies in advance! And my poor DH, I've already rang him 3 times For nothing! LOL Think I must be making up for the last few days of grunting and hmming (...or worse.... ) at him!

Oh and yes, the sun is back, even the cat has decided she'd rather be outside, and it has to be nice for her to brave the north-west elements!

I am going to shut up now!

Sorry George = DS2!

No don't shut up
I also have majot cynicism of the whole natural birth thing, but after having such a slow recovery from epidurals, and getting urine infection from catheter, do want to give it a go without one this time. In fact like you when epidural didn't take with dd2, I actually did OK on gas and air, knowing that I had no choice really...
Am also intrigued to see the tacky as hell inspiring candles. I suppose the whole 'effect' will be broken really if the lights can't be dimmed etc so I can see them in their full glory
Am just booking a train and hotel for Cardiff on the 18th (work thing)and am wondering if I'm being overly ambitious! (I'll be 36 weeks).