Fab Feb Thread: 22 on show........33 to go.......!!!!

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Ooo I feel all important now.

congrats KT and JT.... delighted to hear it went well for both of ye and enjoy your little girls

lbb, you don't sound like a c*%$, i've had a baby with reflux and it's sheer and utter hell. it leaves you so emotionally drained it's hard to feel anything other than irritated and resentful alot of the time, your ds1 won't have noticed though so there's no point feeling bad about it.

as for being jealous of your dp.... i had this as well when ds1 was born and it took a little while for it to occur to me that the solution was astoundly simple.... i told him how i was feeling and we tried to switch as much as possible after that so that we both had one on one time with both babies equally. it made a huge differance to all of us and this time i'm making an effort to let dp step in as much as possible with aaron so i can have time with the older 2.

well after a week of hell my plan was to go to bed early last night and sleep..... that was until dd woke up and projectile vomited everywhere at 10pm and spent the next hour vomiting and having chronic dioherrea.... she was up til 1am and up twice in the night with it again. panic inducing with aaron barely home from intensive care

aaron fed like a beast all night too but at least i could lie down in bed with him and it was lovely after a week of barely being alowed to touch him

had our first outing today, brought him out to the shops and he was as good as gold in his sling and had women flocking to him from all over the shop to admire him

kids have taken to him brilliantly, even ds who i was afraid would be a bit funny about it all.

Steady on there LBB I'm still here! Just been really busy - have the cleanest fridge in South West London so think I may be nesting, finally. Have also been practising putting terry squares on Fireman Sam, een to alottmet to buy potatoes, onion sna dgarlic t plant when I can bend over and dig again and cooked the most enormous sunday lunch.

Baby FC still very happy where he is. Still getting these stupid peiodpains every afternoon but am now so used to htem an totally ignoring them and probably when I do go into labour the baby will be crowning before I notice what's happenning (well, I can dream..)

Sounds like everyone's doing well despite the shock that can be walry motherhood.

LBB it's funny but I was lying in bed thinking about you this morning (NO! not like that!)and wondering how you were getting on and how DS2 was affecting your relationship with DS1 as I know it was something you were really worried about (as are/were lots of us) before DS2 was born. Still can't get my head around the percieved "infidelity" that I am about to commit by loving two boys but I expect it'll all fall into place.

PT sorry you had an eventful night but so happy Aaron is home wth you!

Evening all.

Thanks for all your best wishes. Things seem ok during the day, but overnight it all gets a bit hard to cope with! Called my Mum at the earliest opportunity today to see if she would come over and was here most of the day. She told me when to go off to bed and sleep, and was reassuring when I got stressed and emotional, and now she's gone home I feel a bit lost again.

CMW came out today and checked me out. Merry has put on 1oz ! But did say that she can't be latching on as my nipples are really sore, so had a go at putting her on. I think she did it about the way I did, but I can't tell how much she gets in her mouth as my areola (sp?) are so enormous! Will go to the breastfeeding drop in clinic this week and see what they say...

Speaking of which, she's hungry!

Oh - congrats KT and jenifferturkinton!

Aw PT your poor DD - hope she's feeling better and glad you've finally had a chance to get your cuddles in with aaron and take him for a little stroll .

Congrats KT and JT - more girls, yay !

LBB - I felt a bit funny the weeks that DH was off on pat leave. DS started to spend his whole time trailing round behind his daddy wanting to be with him and all I wanted was a cuddle with my little boy (he is by nature a complete mummy's boy). I think he felt a bit "left out" with with DD permanently attached to me and therefore turned to his Daddy for a change. I left DD at home with DH a few mornings whilst he was off and DS and I went off and did special things together just the two of us(cafe/library/bus) and it was sooo lovely to have my little boy to myself again- I think we both needed it. Have you maybe thought about doing that ?

On your other issue re bonding - I found it very hard to adjust to motherhood first time round- a bit lost, weird blah blah and did not have an instant rush of love...it was a slow love affair ! This time I've not had that "getting used to having a baby" thing which you might do more with a first (well I did anyway) so this time I've not really questioned it - I just know I love her and that's that. It must have been very hard for you with a baby with colic. My best friends DD who was born at the same time as DS had colic and it nearly sent her over the edge - she arrived on my doorstep many a time in floods of tears absolutely desperate. She couldn't wait to get back to work and has questioned having No 2 in case it happens again. Now, she no longer works and her and her daughter have a lovely relationship (her DD is gorgeous) - Don't be hard on yourself - your DS won't even remember what happened then, he'll just remember what a loving mummy he has now...

Cor I do go on don't I.

Must go to my bed.......it beckons.

Congrats JenT - Everything is so exciting [smile}

Thanks for all the congratulations - I still cant believe she is here.
Ive put some pics on facebook of Poppy - She is so lovely

My mum has come over to stay for a few days now, so iv had a chinese takeaway & a long soak.
Poppy seems to be very happy at the moment, calm before the storm perhaps?

I will get online tomorrow at some point to get the birth story on....If I can remember!!

Hope everyone else is doing ok? Will try catch up tomorrow.

I am going in for elective section tomorrow morning, can't believe it! Will be awake this time and nervous!

Hi all,

I thought I'd get on and tell you all my birth story.

So, I woke up at 2.30am last Sunday with what felt like a bad stomach ache. Obviously my first thought was 'Is this is?' but I also wasn't totally sure that I didn't just have an upset stomach. Went to the loo, nothing seemed to be happening, went back to bed. Was up again within 5 minutes with the same feeling so I woke DH up. Literally within about 15 minutes I was in agony and having contractions every 3 minutes. DH and I had a bit of a disagreement over how close together they were (Him: They're about every 8 minutes. Me: I'm telling you, I'm feeling these and they're an eff of a lot closer together than that. RING THE HOSPITAL!!').

The hospital obviously thought I was being a paranoid first timer and said I could come up to be checked over if I really wanted to. I definitely wanted to and after a horrific car journey (only 5 minutes but every bump was agony and I had about 3 contractions during the journey) we finally got there and were met by a laidback midwife who obviously thought she was going to be sending me home. Little did she know. She was finally able to examine me (I was in so much pain I could hardly bare to even open my legs), only to discover I was fully dilated. By this time it's about 3.45am, only just over an hour after I felt the first contractions in bed.

I was told to start pushing and was allowed gas and air, but after a couple of pushes I started literally seeing stars. They took the gas & air off me, and discovered my BP had shot up and Alexander's heartrate had gone right down. Out came the ventouse, that didn't work.

Suddenly everything got a bit serious, people started rushing into the room and before I knew it was being raced down the corridor to an operating theatre with shouts of 'emergency c-section' ringing in my ears. There were various other dramas - they couldn't site a canula in me, the epidural was impossible because of how swollen up I was - all the while they're telling me to keep pushing in the hope he'd come out vaginally. Finally I was given a general, which obviously lowered my BP and Alex's heart rate went back up. So they decided to try a forceps delivery with me under, meaning I had an episiotomy. They still couldn't get him out so went for the c-section.

I woke up a couple of hours later to an emotional DH who'd had to sit in a room on his own and wait whilst all this rolled out, and a gorgeous but battered and bruised baby. He had some horrible cuts on his head from the forceps and lots of brusing and swelling. All in all he's been amazing though, taken it all in his stride and has a lovely temperament.

My first night in hospital was fine as I was in the HDU, but going down on to the ward and having 2 nights there was AWFUL. I hated every minute of it, but let's try and forget all about that eh?

DH and I have both been feeling pretty traumatised by the whole thing (lots of crying, particularly when we see the pics taken of him straight after birth) and are waiting to hear back from the counsellor at the hospital so we can spend some time talking it through.

Mrsy - I can totally relate to how you're feeling about Merry i.e the worry and paranoia. I'm the same. It's getting easier each day as we get to know Alex, but I still constantly check he's breathing and am only just starting to get less broken sleep. We've been co-sleeping as I find it easier to have him on me and don't have to keep sitting up (not always easy with a sore c-section scar) to check on him.

I'm also not finding feeding totally straightforward. We have to do a top up formula feed at night as he simply isn't satisfied by the daytime breastfeeding. I'm feeding as often as I can, but I'm trying to recover myself plus my nipples are pretty sore and I'm still trying to establish my supply. Alex also has some jaundice and needs his fluids so I'm not going to beat myself up over some top ups. Fortunately he seems happy to switch between breast and bottle.

Right, I've got to go and get some food ready, our schedule is completely out the window at the moment and we need to get to bed soon as Alex is still a bit too nocturnal so there'll be a few hours of being awake in the night ahead of us.

(((MrsY))) ... what a labour you had..like many others on this board, my first labour was long, hard with many interventions... DS had to be resuciated after being born, and I remember that traumatic long wait to hear a cry... be kind to yourself, you have done amazingly well and we are all checking on baby breathing on a regular basis..

jenniferturkington and KT, well done and CONGRATULATIONS.. looking forward to hearing your stories.x.

Neerly3-ref. what to wear for water birth...what ever you are comfortable with...I wore nothing and frankly couldn't have cared less who saw me but I know some who have worn a bikini top or a tankini top style thing. I don't know anyonew that has worn a t-shirt/night shirt, too much material in the way in the water but if that what makes you feel most comfortable then thats what you should wear.

KT and jenniferturkington- congratulations on new arrivals. Can't wait to hear your birth stories.

QK-blimey, your poor DH must have been in bits. Congrats on being home and well now!

QT.. xposted and missed your birth story.. wow, sounds like both your you and your DH need some TLC.. talking it through sounds like a very good idea.. congratulations on all of you being home now !!

(((((QK))))) that sounds truely horrific.

So happy you and Alex are both ok. Try rest up as much as possible.

QK - congratulations on little Alex's arrival, but sounds like a hell of an experience you went through. So sorry it was so traumatic - you've been through a lot and I hope that talking about it will help ease the pain. Take care of yourself and do whatever you need to to help your recovery.

KT and JenniferTurkington - congratulations to you two and looking forward to seeing photos and catching up on birth stories
!

LBB - I thought your post about your love for DS2 was lovely and soemthing I think I might relate to in the coming weeks. I am also worrying about whether I'll have to "compete" for DD's affection with DH - she already goes to him for more cuddles and asks for him all the time!!!

Bunsen - good luck with your section tomorrow! And to anyone else who I;ve missed. I'm afraid I've not been so good at keeping up with the thread now I've found the instant chat on Facebook !

Have a good night and catch you tomorrow.

PT Thanx A fried of mine told me last time that she had heard babies look to one for food and to anyone else for comfort and some can have trouble taking both from one person, and as I tried to bf ds1 I thought, well maybe.............
I did with ds1 talk to dp about how I felt when he was able to settle him quicker than me and dp was really good, stepped back a bit and let me and ds1 get to know each other and work out what he liked etc, but then I think I got so controlling and so caught up in routines that he felt unable to step up again iyswim (looking back I wonder if I was slightly suffering PND just from my control issues).
This time, dp seems to have a slight fear of baby because he is alot smaller than ds1 was, but then he had 3 days with both of them whilst I was at hospital with pains......but he has done an awful lot so will let him off with the baby, as long as he's keeping one of them happy, I'm happy.

thom Maybe I missed some posts but I was thinking I hadn't seen you here for a while. at you practising on Fireman Sam!
Things are still good in our household, ds1 is happy and don't suppose it really matters who he wants to follow around and am sure he's just lapping his dad up before he goes back to work. Me and ds1 still manage to hug and kiss and read books, do puzzles and play etc, he's also being really good with baby and comes over to kiss and stroke him. He helps by passing the bottles and nappy's to me too which is sweet and he doesn't seem to be affected much by new arrival, there are no signs of jealousy when I'm holding baby and am sure that when dp returns to work and we start getting out and about and back to normal life, everything will fall into place. So far, this whole thing hasn't been too much of a strain (apart from the pains, but that's sorted now).
MrsY Babies can lose upto 10% of their birthweight in the first week so the fact that she hasn't done that is great! I'm sure with a bit of persistance you and Meredith will both get the hang of bf.
herb I'm hoping this week to even just take ds1 to the park for an hour on our own, the past week has been tough because I've been in so much pain and really don't know what I'd have done if I didn't have such a wonderful man at my side.
And yes, it was awful having a baby that was colic-y and I spent many a day in tears thinking what have I done , but def don't think ds1 has suffered in the slightest in terms of love and trust between us, it's just amazing how different it is 2nd time around. I haven't once questioned my love for Luke, although I didn't either with ds1, I just didn't realise/acknowledge it iyswim. A friend of mine came to visit ds1 when he was about 6 weeks and said "do you just love him so much?" and I said "erm.......haven't really thought about it" awful. But like you say, he knows now how much I aore him so that's all that matters.
I got really down with a colic/reflux baby, but there's light at the end of the tunnel
This baby is an absolute dream. Although he still has his days and night mixed up witch is a pain, but it's not even been 2 weeks, so that'll change.
KT Will have a look on FB in a mo, glad you're ok and had some you time.
bunsen Good luck for tomorrow.
QK That sounds awful! The bruised look of a forceps baby isn't pleasant is it? But it goes down pretty quick. Good idea to see the hospital counsellor to talk about your experience too. Staying on the ward is horrible isn't it? can't imagine what it'd be like after such a traumatic delivery. Big hugs to you and Alexander.

KT She is just the cutest! The scream face made me smile and the pic with her hands at her head is sweet.

Right, I must do the ironing now.........how boring!
Oh, bugger was supposed to take AB's 2 hours ago! Whoops

Evening all.

Neerly - I was naked for my waterbirth and to be honest, really didnt care who saw me naked; at that point, all I wanted to do was get in the water and start feeling grounded enough to push. On Tuesday, we told DS1 that his aunty was going to come over to stay the night - and kept him up until she'd arrived so she could read bedtime stories to him before his bath. In the morning, DH left the hospital at 6ish to get home in time for DS waking up and told him that mummy was at hospital having had his little brother and that his aunty was going to look after him while he came back to the hospital to get us. We got back while DS1 was having his nap and he was fine. Your twins are older than DS1 so they'd probably understand if you explained everything to them in advance about what would happen so they wouldnt freak out if they found their aunty there in the morning.

JenT - huge congrats on the arrival of your little girl; hurrah!

Bunsen - good luck for tomorrow.

QK - am sending you HUGE hugs. As I said to MrsY I had a pretty traumatic first birth experience; talking it through with a counsellor or someone else (I had postnatal doulas and my old NCT teacher that I spoke to) (and sobbing as much as you can) and even writing it down helps more than you could possibly believe in the emotional healing process. The advice I gave to MrsY stands for you as well - dial down your expectations to the absolute minimum and just enjoy as much skin to skin as you possibly can with Alexander; it'll get those happy hormones going for both of you, I promise. See if you can line up some help for you with breastfeeding if you're struggling (a local peer supporter was my absolute life line with DS, though postnatal doulas can also help with breastfeeding sometimes too) as taking a tiny proactive step like that can really make you feel so much more like you're in the driving seat again and be a good first step to feeling human again. And I know I've said it before, but if anyone does have a traumatic delivery of their little one, I really do highly recommend taking the baby to see a cranial osteopath as they can work miracles with any issues your little one may have (we took DS1 to see one and he was like a different baby after a couple of sessions) - I know they can be expensive but some are even registered charities (like the Osteopathic Centre for Children in Clerkenwell in London) so you just pay what you can afford. Am sending you massive hugs - I've been where you have and you can and will come out of it; just focus on that beautiful little boy you've got!

LBB - I thought the post about your love for DS2 is lovely. And DS1 is just enjoying the novelty of having daddy around - my DS1 is the same with his daddy and to be honest, I love that they're so close. We still get quality time - and will do again when I'm home alone with DS1 and DS2 and DH is at work again.

Pempe - I'm the same as Swampster; DS2 seems to feed almost hourly at the moment and am sure he'd guzzle a bottle if offered to him. DS1 was given formula several times while in hospital but I insisted they had to cup feed him not to compromise breastfeeding; if you can cup feed, it may help.

Cant remember what else I was going to post - must be time for bed. Oh yes, we appear to have a massive leak somewhere in our plumbing system that appeared this evening (as a water fall in our kitchen) while DS1 and DH were having a bath, plumber due out in the morning to look at it; dread to think how much it will cost! Oh well, better to get it sorted out I guess than have a permanent water feature...

P.s. Pink - sorry to hear about DD's illness; hope its a 24 hour thing and she's much better now and you have a more restful night.

morning all
KT congratulations on the arrival of Poppy Louise, fabulous name. A good size too after all that worrying

JenniferT, congratulations to you too, look forward to update on name

PT, so glad Aaron is home with you now and getting settled in

Pempe, keep at the feeding like the others said. It seemed to take ages for my milk to come in and Harrison had quite a few bottles and then became a bit lazy with the breast feeding. We were a bit worried that he was having trouble because of his tongue (he has tongue tie which we think/hope is quite mild) but as from last night I sat and fed and fed and fed him and he is now latching on properly and seems to be doing well.

QK, HUGE hugs to you. What a terribly traumatic experience for you and your DH. He must have been frantic bless him. Your story brought tears to my eyes as I was trying to imagine how my DH would have coped in your situation and he just wouldn't have been able to.
I had a really traumatic delivery with my first DS 15 years ago (god I feel old!) I had a 19 hour labour with no effective pain relief (epidural didn't work and they didn't believe me) and then they kept saying he wasn't ready to come and 14 minutes later he did and I had terrible tears. I was so traumatised by it I couldn't even consider another child and I wish I'd had the opportunity to see and speak to a counsellor and I think it would be really helpful for you and DH to talk to a professional about it.
The positive though, is Alex is now with you so huge congratulations to you x

Bunsen good luck for your CS

Swampy sounds like Jacob is feeding really well which is a really positive sign. That is brilliant to have him feeding for that length of time and lying down. Haven't quite got Harrison used to the lying down feeding bit yet

The overseas family are settling down into a routine and its lovely to have DD1 over from the UK as she has been a huge help.
For some strange reason the nesting finally kicked in yesterday. I was up early, got DD2 off to nursery at 8am and by 8.30am was baking the first of two batches of chocolate muffins. Walked down to medical centre, registered Harrison, then walked down to DH's office on outskirts of compound, around 25 mins walk and deposited muffins for the lads. Then went home and cooked a roast with yorkshire puddings and even stuffing balls! Where did that sudden burst of energy come from?

Anyway, happy Monday everyone x

MOS - oh my god! you put me to shame! How have you done all that? I've barely been out of my pyjamas since I've been home....

We are pushing on with the attempt to cut out the formula - Harry is spending longer feeding with me (in a sleepy lazy way) and our reward is him sleeping for half an hour before waking hungry again.....

morning all- still not in labour and getting more and more fed up now...not so much with being pg but with fed up with having sore hips, sore sacrum, having swollen ankles and feet etc etc. Debating whether or not I should walk DS to nursery or throw him in the car. He's already whining for Jungle Book so it might be car!

Updated list:

TinkerBellesMumandFifi2 - DD Sîan Anne Denise, 4lbs 8.5oz, 02.01.09 (due 01.02.09)
Dinkymum - DS Isaac Christopher, 5lbs 8oz, 19.01.09
Ooogs - DS Luke Daniel, 8lbs 6oz, 20.01.09
Herbgarden - DD Amy Hannah, 5lbs 14oz 23.01.09
idontbelieveit - DD Freya Rose, 6lbs 8oz, 26.01.09
laidbackinengland - DD Mabel Lucy, 8lbs 14oz, 29.01.09
tinasan - DS Enrico Marco, 6lbs 10oz, 29.01.09
onwardandupward - DC2, [I'll put name on fb], 8lb exactly, 30.01.09
stacysmom - DD Tabitha Rose, 6lbs 15oz, 31.01.09
MsLucy - DS Stanley William born, 8lb 7 oz, 02.02.09
LittleMissNorty, DS Ewan Scott, 6lbs 13ozs, 02.02.09
swampster - DS Jacob 7lb, 02.02.09
Jelliebaby - DD Olivia 7lb 3oz, 02.02.09
MarkStretch - DS Frankie 7lb 15oz, 03.02.09
Pempe ? DS 03.02.09
Nkweto - DD Alexandra, 8llbs 11oz, 04.02.09
MamaGoose - DD Indigo Norah Rose, 4.15kg/9lb 1oz, 04.02.09
LittleBoyBlue - DS Luke Alan 7 lb 13 oz, 04.02.09
fgpl -DD Phoebe, 8lb 9 oz 05.02.09
McDreamy - DD Abigail Louise, 7lb 1/2oz, 06.02.09
Rosieposey - DS Milo John, 8lb 1ozs 06.02.09
mumoverseas - DS Harrison William, 3.1k, 08.02.09
Questionkid ? DS Alexander George 08.02.09
PinkTulips ? DS Aaron 8lbs 2 oz 09.02.09
Dinkystinky - DS Daniel Nikhil, 8lbs 6oz, 10.02.09
mrsy ? DD Meredith Lilian Faith 7lb 0.7oz 10.02.09
Givethedogahomebirth - DD, 8lbs 15oz, 11.02.09
KT1983 - DD Poppy Louise 6lb 80z 13.02.09
JenniferTurkington, DD, 9lb, 15.02.09

WHO'S NEXT.....

KazzaL - DC2 (suprise flavour), due: 10.02.09 (age 35, Cirencester, Gloucs)
Astarte - DC4 & absolutely the last! (a girl), due: 10.02.09, HWB planned.
Munteria - DC2, due: 11.02.09 (age 37, Putney)
TheHouseofMirth - DC2 (a boy), due: 11.02.09 (age 39, Wimbledon)
Pluto - DC2 CS booked: 13.02.09 (aged 38, Kent)
Ranirani - DC1, due: 13.02.09 (age 35, Herts)
Justme84 - due 14.02.09
Littlesez ? DC1 (a girl), due: 15.02.09 (age 28, Manchester)
Bunsen - DC2 (girl) due 21.02.09 CS booked for 16.02.09 (age 32, Leeds)
America - DC2 (a boy), due: 16.02.09 (age 32, London)
Scubagroover - DC1 (a boy), due: 17.02.09 (age 31, London/ Kent)
Rachrox - DC4 (a boy), due: 18.02.09 (age 28, Cheltenham)
Catstar - DC2 (a boy), due: 18.02.09 (age 36, Chessington)
Mentalpup - DC2, due: 18.02.09 (age 31, Cheltenham)
fruitstick - (a suprise), due: 18.02.09
DizzyBrummie - DC2, due: 20.02.09 (age 36, Berkshire)
Cocodrillo - DC3, unknown flavour, cs booked for 20.02.09 (age 35, London)
Calico1 - DC2 due: 21.02.09 (age 40, West Herts)
Neeerly3 - DC3 (surprise) due 23.02.09 (age 32, Mansfield, Notts)
Winemakesmummyclever - DC2 (a boy), due: 23.02.09. (age 35, Manchester) expecting cs @ 39 weeks
Spottyshoes - DC2, due: 24.02.09 (age 28)
Lardybump - DC2, due: 24.02.09 (age 34)
eejaykay - DC1 (a boy), due: 24.02.09 (age 34, London)
katieblirdsnest - DC2 due 24.02.09 (age 39, London)
Chilledmama - DC2 (a girl), due: 25.02.09 (age 32, Southsea)
Pinkbabybump - DC2 (a girl), due: 25.02.09 (age 36, Cornwall) CS booked for 20.02.09
ihavenewsockson - DS2, due: 26.02.09 (age 25, Surrey)

Morning everyone, I am still with child.....

Had a lovely weekend... Congrats to all the new babies... I am getting bad period type pains and really hoping this is it. I just wish I could go for a nice long walk to help things along but my SPD has put pay to that.......

pempe It was a one off never to be repeated event! Back to my normal lazy self today.

lardy fingers crossed it is happening. Hopefully your SPD will go immediately afterwards like mine did

Wow look at the list now! It's nearly my turn. Got few things on the go as I am trying to avoid an induction.

Clary sage
Pulsatilla and on weds caulophyllum from homeopath
Booking in for reflexology
Having curry tonight
having a membrane sweep on sunday, bleurghh

Everyone keeps telling me about sex being the best way but he won't entertain it, i told him if she has not arrived by the end of the week he will have no choice, he looked genuinely scared!

I have a total phobia of being induced, need to try and get my head round it though as it could be happening. I just want her to come out naturally and for some reason I just feel like it would be forcing her out, sounds silly now i write it. Also its always been that we are having a home birth, I prepared myself that i might have to go in to hospital anyway so kind of got my head round that. But just not for the whole labour. Big picture though how ever she gets here i will have my little baby girl soon

Its so nice to see all the pics of your little newborns ladies, so much to look forward to now.

i thought naked was the way to go - it's not that i'm shy, I just didn't want to be stripping off in front of midwives who thought I was completely mad, so thought I would check etiquete before i arrived!

I have been having the 'pre-labour' talk with the boys recently - they seem to be taking it all in their stride, but get up in the morning asking why Aunty xxx isn't there and why I'm not in hosp! At 4 I guess you do expect things to happen instantly (wish it would!).

Feel less weird today, was up every 2 hours for a wee, bump feeling very heavy, but back was thrashing again this morning - 2 paracetamols later and it seems to have eased (god knows what I've done to it).

QK - wow what a birth story! Make sure you do get councelling though, for both of you, as I suffered from PTSD after boys early delivery and it lead to PND which was not nice and put me off having more kids for AGES! This time I am on track for 'straight forward' and I get to take baby straight home (well thats the theory anyway).

Off for a shower and decide how to spend my girly day with a girly friend.....