Due Dec 08 - Christmas inductions ... The Holly and The I.V.

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Here I have done it!!!!!

Just need more babies now!!!!!

Katie and others expecting no. 2 - I'm also worried about how we'll cope with a new baby, DS is so sweet and engaging at the moment I feel really guilty! But then I'm sure he'll thank me when he has a playmate to run around with . I also love the idea of being able to say 'the children' and 'the boys' rather than 'my son' (which always sounds a bit materfamilias).

I loved the stories at weeping over children and families being reunited - I sniffed a bit over Bob the Builder today. There is no hope, I've def gone over the edge .

TYV: the disappearance of heartburn is very reassuring . I'm lalalalaing over broken nights and both children waking at once, though I'm sure I'll be there with you in a month or so.

Veggie: if you'd like to some Neals Yard stuff let me know as I work near Covent Garden (unfortunately not 20% off as far as I know). Easy enough for me to pop out in my lunch break, but I only have just over a week left so get your orders in early .

hello all. just very quick one from me -mainly because 1-handed typing whilst cuddling my beautiful girl!. thanks for messages we're back home now and all well. wasn't homebirth i'd wanted but was really lovely - very peaceful, and all felt quite natural despite having the synoctin drip. had brilliant midwife so only needed tens and about 5 gulps of gas and air at the end (2nd stage very quick).

hospital were fantastic - we had to stay in because of risk of infection and everyone was soo good. such a contrast to last experience. beans you're in very good hands. chutney i can't remember whether you're at tommies too? will be thinking of you tomorrow - and tonight. and am sure you will have enough love for 3. lg glass of champagne for me now. will raise it to you too tyv. congratulations. xx

Chutneymary: will be thinking of you tomorrow . Sounds like you;ve had a necessary emotional clear-out before the big event, so now all set for meeting your new baby - how exciting

at champers

I am hankering after Proper Beer

Glad the hosptial stay went well Lal

Oh, an other random thought for those looking for dressing gowns: got a huge fleecy men's one from Primark today - £4. Bargain

I'm sorry...I forgot to wish you luck Chutney!!! Best of luck for tomorrow and I'm sure you will be fine!
Hello Lal...aww sounds lovely to be cuddling your new one!

was also wondering about Rosmerta, maybe she's hunkered down in her cave refusing to answer the phone (which is the state I'll be in around my due date )

Congrats on your wee boy TYV,you make the birth sound so easy . And big congrats to you too Lal, we were worried about you, glad all went so well

Rhinestone LOL yup you are having a baby ! I know how you feel though, it is difficult to get your head around it !

Chutney and Katie loads of luck for CS this week.

ZJ IKWYM about getting freaked aout about life changing so dramatically. I have moments when I just wonder how on earth I'll manage to look after the wee thing properly 24/7 and imagine myself panicking at the slightest thing (nappy changing, feeding, sleeping...)

LOL Beans I feel exactly the same, terrifed but just want to get on with it ! LOL at 'squirting' the baby out !!!

Anyway ladies I have a question.... I had a sudden gush/squirt of something about an hour ago - definitely not wee - and it was light pink ... have had nothing since... could it be an amniotic fuid leak or if it goes does it really go and all at once ? Am not particulary worried, just want to know if this could possibly be the start of something...

wow we are nearly up to a new thread, i wonder if Chutney will have her baby in this thread or the next. Just realised hers will be the first actual December baby

Verso i was the one who asked about the 6 week no driving thing. I wouldn't have even thought to check my insurance. I wonder if there is something saying we shouldn't drive in the last few weeks of pregnancy with a cold, because if we sneeze or cough and do a little wee wee and get such a shock we lose control of the vehicle. Anyway well done for checking something like that Verso.

hey everyone.
am very sleepy again this evening so just popping in before bed. Hope tomorrow goes well Chutney - thinking of you.

After my reassuring post earlier about us all being ace mums and it being hard to mess up, I have had an attack of the guilty-crap-mum feelings! DD seems to be really whining all the time and seems so fragile - bursts into tears at the slightest little thing and has started blaming others for stuff, like if she drops something saying "well you made me let go", which is not what I;m used to from her. Don't know if it's a normal 4yr old phase, or related to imminent baby arrival or what, but am feeling impatient and then guilty. She bought a present for the baby today (our money of course!) because she saw it and really wanted it for the baby, and has gone to sleep cuddling it herself - very cute - then I feel really really bad for having such a short fuse with her. Flippin eck - tears have started again now coz I'm writing this!

mibbes: could be a leak, I would honestly ring the labour ward and check. If your waters have gone they may want you to go in after a certain amount of time (mind you no direct experience as mine didn't go until I was well into labour).

mibbes- could be that your hind waters have broken so the don't come out in a gush but can leak out on and off over a period of time.

mibbles - my antenatal class MW said you waters can go in dribs and drabs- not necessarily a TV style mega-gush, but I THINK (not sure - baby brain!) she said it should be clear and that if it is browny or pinky then you should contact them and get checked out. But as I said that might be totally wrong because my brain is broken.

Trace- you have been a bit down yourself (as have many of us) maybe she is just picking up on how you are feeling and is aware of the change thats about to happen. I think you both just need lots of cuddles. Poor DS has also been a bit different lately he gets a bit sullen sometimes and even talks back a bit, which is the complete opposite of his usual character. I have found that if i ask him if he wants a mummy cuddle he always changes his mood and we have a big cuddle.

veggie - thanks. Sometimes I wonder if my tears will ever run out!! I feel like I've not been her up-beat, positive, happy mummy for a while and that's really sad. Not sure if it's related to having stopped my happy pills - due to change meds post delivery. Am probably analysing it too much as usual! Sorry to be a down-in-the-dumps.

oh Trace, you poor thing when do you see your doctor next?

due to see gynae on friday for potential stretch and sweep but have appointment tomorrow morning with CPN.

Trace You poor thing. Have a .
I have had a short fuse with DS in the last couple of days. He just has so much energy and I have none at all. He seems to play up so much and then when DH gets home from work he behaves. Then this morning he came up to me and put his head on my bump, stroked it and said "Hello Baby" I nearly cried my eyes out but I didn't want to upset him so had to hold back. I felt so awful for being ratty with him.
Have a chat with your MW when you see her next, she may be able to help. Mine did when I was feeling low a while ago.

Mibbes I agree that you should go get it checked out. I also don't know anything about waters breaking as mine went just before I had to start pushing with DS and can't remember them going.

Wonderful news Lal & theyoungvisiter - congratulations on your little bundles of joy. Only realised yesterday that you were my due date buddy Lal - now that's scary!

All the best for you tomorrow chutney. Hope it goes well - can't wait to hear from you.

Verso gorgeous photo of Frieda. Can't remember if you said, but how much did she weigh? She looks a good healthy weight - when I look back at the photos of DS he was such a scrawny thing, then lost weight afterwards. I remember all the hassle I got from the midwives threatening to hospitalise him unless I started to formula feed him when he went 20 grams under the 10% mark (even though he was fully alert, wetting nappies, no jaundice etc.), and how shit they made me feel. Determined not to take any nonsense this time round - sounds like you are doing the same. Good on you. Great to hear you're feeling so positive as well - have you had any dips yet? Just wondering as I had a big dip at about 3 days last time - it was shortlived for me but was a bit overwhelming while it lasted.

Bisou love the piccie.

Effie I'm all up for a competition but how about roughest post-baby photos or most stitches or something - at least I might have a fighting chance then!

wg did you clear up what the pain was? If not, have you googled sciatica? No experience of it myself, nor do I know much about it, but from what little I know it sounds like it could possibly be that.

mibbes could well be something. You should probably get yourself down to the hospital tomorrow morning to get it checked out I reckon - make a note of the time it happened & put a panty pad in so it's easier for them to see the colour. If it is amniotic fluid they need to know about it cos from the moment the membranes rupture the risk of infection increases, so they'll want to make sure things are moving along.

I've been wondering about rosmerta as well - hope everything's okay.

On the second baby front, I don't so much worry that I won't have enough love to go around as that my DD won't be as lovely as my DS. I just can't imagine that she could be. DS has his dad's easygoing, sociable, sweet nature whereas I can't help thinking that DD is going to be more like me - miserable, mardy and misanthropic. Apart from that, I think it's going to be really hard work for the first year but wonderful for them when they're a bit older, especially as they'll be close in age (20 months apart).

DP has gone to Colchester to get drunk at his mate's house (guess I'd better not go into labour tonight then) and drop DS off to spend the night with his grandma - first night ever away from both of us, as a trial run for when I go into hospital. This will be the last chance for a night on my own for probably the next 18 months or more - really can't face leaving the house at the mo as I don't have any coats that will do up, but was determined not to spend the whole day on MN. Instead I've done something equally constructive and gorged myself on telly and chocolate. Good job DP has taken the box of wine with him - think I'm going to treat myself to a pizza and a non-alcoholic Becks before bedtime.

trace sorry x-posts with you, so sorry you are feeling down, I'm sure your DD still thinks you're the best mummy in the world xx.

I called triage and they want to see me tomorrow 9am to check me out and maybe do a scan (no scans until the morning so she said no point going in tonight). She said prob not waters but not sure and unless it gets very bloody no need to worry. She thinks I need to be checked out as am rhesus -ve. Thanks for your help ladies.

PD- i'm the same, i'm worried DS2 won't be as amazing and just lovely like DS1 is. He is such a lovely loving little man and is so much like his dad, i'm worried this one will be a grumpy fiery thing like me. DS & DH has such lovely even tempers, i'm worried that this DS will have a bad temper.

Trace- are you still there are you ok?

trace sorry, didn't see your post there. Try not to be too hard on yourself - you're dealing with a lot of stuff emotionally, physically and hormonally, and you're managing it without your meds. As far as your DD's concerned you're the best mummy in the world and that's what you'll always be, whether you're going through a bad patch or not.

i just got an email from my midwife, our birth pool in a box is being delivered on tuesday, yay. so we can start playing with it and can finally relax and have this baby. DH will not be so nervous about donating his prostoglandins to me. Although we just have one more hurdle. DH has to go to London twice this week, for 2 days on 2 different jobs. If the jobs are on subsequent days he will stay down there but if the days are separated he will come back in between. It only takes just under 2 hours to get to London bu one of the jobs is is Crawley so would take a sometime to get to. I'm still hoping they will be on separate days so he has to come back each evening though.

we also got the Tens out and watched the DVD on it and had a test of it. Poor DH i put it on his arm then was really mean and turned it up to high really quickly he got such a shock, it was really funny.

ok i'm sleepy so off to bed to try to get some sleep before the heartburn sets in.

hope you all get some sleep, esp those with new bubs.

Trace- don't be too hard on yourself, DD loves you whether you are fun mummy or grumpy mummy, because you are her Mummy., and she is a lucky girl to have you as her mummy.

night night all.

Veggie: thanks for the reminder, have just ordered my TENS machine

Trace: your DD is in no way being shortchanged by having a pg mum atm, sounds like she;s just pushing your buttons in the way toddlers do . I am def more short with DS but I'm sure he'll survive these few weeks. Hope the CPN appt goes well.

Trace my love - I am so sorry you are feeling so rough. I think it is probably a bit of both - partly age and partly the imminent change which she will know about ut not really understand. My DD1 (3.10) knows exactly which buttons to press at the moment and does so regularly! Over the last few months I have cried on her, shouted at her, been irrational and unfair with her, etc etc from time to time when she has not deserved this. Of course, at other times she has played up something rotten and wound me up on purpose but lots of the time it's just me being hormonal. I still love her to bits and she me. In my crying fit yesterday (or during one of them), she sat on my lap and dried my face with her skirt (!) saying "no more tears, mummy, no more tears" then got her hairbrush out to give me a new hairstyle to make me feel better! Our slightly erratic behaviour as mothers is part of life and you are the best mother for her as you are HER mother and therefore the most important thing in the world to her. It must be doubly hard to manage all this when you have to struggle with depression too. Hope you CPN appointment is helpful.

My DD1 is a Lucy too BTW - excellent choice of name (hope it was you - it's pages ago!)

Well, been awake since 4 and probably not going back to sleep before alarm goes at 5.45 now. Am as ready as I'll ever be. After the emotion of yesterday, I feel strangely calm now, though that will dissipate once I get there I am sure. Thanks again for all the kind words and positive thoughts. You have lifted my spirits so much. I won't be on line now til I am home but I'll text LadyT / PD / Turnip with news.

Hope all well and love to everyone.