Due in June '05 - onwards and outwards

[welshmum]

Here we are - Happy Mondays all

Charley, congrats girl!!!!! Good for you! I'm so pleased for you both.

Mrs Wed . I know where you're coming from. I keep looking down, sighing, then wondering if anyone has ever popped and burst in the history of modern pregancies.

Charley congrats! you know what they say...diamonds are a girls best friend....seriously though - great news

tea - how do you do it? I can't get them to stand up for me on the tube either! am dreading my journey tonight....do you ask or just look like your going to faint or something?

KVG- thanks for the Easter tip - will investigate tmw

I've just seen the MRSA news - terrifying. Makes me want my home birth more than ever....

Clink. Cheers - to Mr and Mrs Charleypops-to-be.

Charleypops, could anyone else in your family tell her? Perhaps some good news might bring her round (although if pregnancy doesn't do it, it's hard to know what will ).

Aw Trib - that's so romantic! What kind of hen night did you have while pg with no alcohol?!

Thanks for the drinkie KVG! think I'm going to need a few more glasses of that to numb the pain of the tiling I'm about to do.... Bless your dh getting down on BOTH knees (hope he checked where he was kneeling first!)

MrsW - that's what I'm worried about - someone else telling her. She's so highly strung at the moment, she'd probably freak because I hadn't told her. It's a bit complicated tbh. The only way I can deal with it is by ignoring the situation. Ho hum...

Oh joy, Charley!! I was wondering if this might happen when you said you were going to venice. So happy for you!

Can I come to the wedding/reception? Can we bring our football team? Just kidding.

I suddenly decided last night to take a holiday today in honour of DDs birthday -- she is now offificailly in her terrible TWOs. This nanny thing has gotten rediculous, I actually just got all possesive about it and decided the birthday was MINE, not hers. We went to Jo Jingles and then had "lovely" (hack hack) lunch at McDonalds. Oh well, she liked it and it is her birthday. She is now sound asleep and I'm soon to get up off my fat bum to bake a cake... oh I hate getting up nowadays.

Charley - I must confess to having had [i]some[/i] alcohol at both hen do and wedding, I figured a lot of people don't even know they're pregnant in the first trimester and carry on drinking like fish, so I should be okay! (That's my theory anyway).

I will also add, although dh and I met in the airport, we were actually next-door neighbours. Yes, 'tis true. We lived in next-door flats on the same landing and had done for c. 6 months at the point we met on a joint trip to Amsterdam arranged by some of his friends and some of my friends. (We only didn't meet on the way to the airport cos he was in a different car). I had assumed my mystery next-door neighbour was never there cos he never emptied his postbox or made any noise whatsoever. Was slightly bizarre when I put two and two together to work out who he was!

Uwila, happy birthday to dd! Hope she had eggs for her birthday breakkie

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! Congratulations on your engagement Charley That's quite fabulous news and a diamond to boot. Can I just clarify, Marc Almond being on the next table was a coincidence or did df pull some strings??? Hehe

I think being engaged is a wonderful state, as long as you don't end up in a permanent state of enagement i.e 7 years like a n old friend of mine She doesn't wear her ring anymore and when 'df' asked her why, she said " well, nothings happened for 7 years has it??!!" Can't say I blame her really!!

As for your mum, phone her tonight, say "Mum, dp and I got engaged at the w/e and I wanted you to be the 1st to know!" Pause for her response; congrats, phone goes dead, whatever. At least then she 'knows' and you wont feel bad for telling other people before her, or her finding out second-hand. Don't let the bad feeling between you 2 spoil the excitement though.

Phew! Mrs W. Glad your aches have been pinpointed and can be corrected. I must say though, the chiropractor told you standing would relieve the pain... and then didn't offer another solution to an obviously pregnant woman??? Bizarre.

I know Lippy - all I've done is swap one kind of pain for another!

We'll see how I go tomorrow when I go for a proper consultation.

Charleypops, what sort of reaction do you think you'd get if you did as Lippy suggested and told her?

at your engagement stories. My DH proposed to me in a particularly rank Manchester pub, then fashioned me a ring out of a beer mat. It could only go uphill from there.......

CHARLEYPOPS!!!!! that's so fab - congrats, and how lovely that it happened in Venice - how romantic is that. So very happy for you
Can't believe I didn't get a seat on the way home either and I felt so knackered - am close to asking people now.

Hi - just having a quick tea break - I can type again now, my extensions came off in the adhesive!

Wow uwila - what ESP! I had no idea about dp's little proposal - I was totally shocked, honestly! Of course you can come to our wedding! You are ALL invited! why not?? However, (if it's "on our land" it won't be at all conventional and you may all have to camp and slaughter your own dinners

Happy birthday to your lovely little DD!

Jonah - how romantic

Thanks Welshie! bit cheesy I guess, a proposal in Venice - at least it wasn't in a gonadola I can't believe you had to stand tonight I think I'd say something now you know - people deserve to be shamed into giving you their seat.

trib - I certainly was certainly drinking my normal (rather copious) amounts of alcohol for the first few weeks until I realised - I think you're right, most people do! What a great story about you and your next door neighbour - handy!

thanks Lippy! Gosh a 7 year engagement?? I guess the novelty's worn off somewhat for your friend then? Marc was at the restaurant coincidentally, but we had a little chat and it was great to see him out and about again after his horrible motorbike accident a few months ago.

Sadly, I can't call mum cos her husband might answer and I just haven't got the strength to deal with that. I've developed a bit of a phobia about calling. She's so frosty with me anyway and we both get so upset. I've made approaches and 'opened the door' for her, only to be reduced to tears for days/weeks afterwards when she hasn't followed up. I think she's just more comfortable having a "birthday/christmas card" relationship with me. She's become obsessed with the damn things. Another story. Everything I do beyond that just seems to hurt her. She's so full of bitterness and regret but won't acknowledge it yet it seems to manifest in everything she thinks or says. Having never been close, it's not like I can try to reestablish a warm or happy relationship anyway. I don't think the engagement would mean much to her anyway - like Mrs W said, if she denies any interest in my pregnancy..... I do know however she'd choose to feel badly hurt and more isolated and unloved than ever if someone else told her. Which I couldn't bear. So stalemate. I know I'm being crap and should be bigger/stronger than this but t's a very dark place for me sadly, and best ignored - I decided a few weeks ago to try to stop worrying about our relationship and block it out, I think I posted a bit on here about it after Pink posted about her "mum problems". But apart from that, life is absolutely great right now, I've never been happier, I guess you can't have everything

WOWEEEEE Charley Congratulations!!!!! Such exciting news. I was so overwhelmed when dh proposed to me I cried like a goodun even though I knew it was coming at some point. Prior to dd I have never been so happy about anything in my life. We were in Spain sitting on the beach at night during a very dramatic lightening storm. Ahhh. Seems a VERY long time ago now though. We wanted to get married asap but actually had quite a long engagement due to DH's work committments (on a course for 9 months) and I did want the BIG party and full church do. It was well worth the wait too. Your plans sound perfect and romantic too. Oooh it will be so lovely.
Lynny - Your rash sounds awful poor you. I am glad it is being monitored so closely though. What a nightmare. I feel hot at the best of times at the moment so it must be hard work coping with that too.
Mrs W - Hope you get some relief soon. Def pay to go private if you can afford it. You don't want any permanent damage. Poor you too.
Red - That is scary about the medication for your MIL. Eeek. My friend told me two similar stories just last week and her dd was prescribed the adult form of a medication despite being just 10 so I am ALWAYS going to check the labels now. I usually take the first dose and then settle down to read the leaflet.
Pink - You sounded stressed when you posted so I hope you are feeling a bit better now. You have alot to think about all at once. I think statistically most babies are late so just take it easy and good luck. You will be able to deal with whatever happens, and I am sure it will all work out
Red - STOP NESTING. You are making me feel bad.
Kat - Your nursery sounds fab too. We never decorate as we are in MOD properties and you have to return it all to magnolia when you leave and we are too lazy. Poor DD just had some stickarounds I bought and they didn't even go up when she was born as we were moving when she was 4 mths old and in fact took another three months to go up once we got here.....
Trib- Heard about the Ipswich MSRA case here today. So sad . That would be my local hospital if I was at 'home', although if I was living in the UK I would be planning my homebirth. Poor families and everyone involved.
Uwila - Glad you enjoyed dd's bday. It is my dd's bday on Thurs so they are only two days apart! Isn't it fun when they understand so much more than last year. DD was able to blow the candles out on her cake at her party etc. Great fun.
We have a toy library here which has just opened and is fab. DD chose a pram today which she has for a week for the sum of £1.O0. We have reserved the kitchen plus pots and pans for next week which will cost £1.50. Great huh. It will be a godsend when we move too as our stuff all goes six weeks before we do so all the kids toys will be gone. I opened up the Mum and toddler group today which was exhausting due to one psycho child who just attacked everyone. I know they all go through it and it is one of those things but the Mum kind of ignores it and pretends not to see etc. It is difficult to know what and when to say anything. Luckily dd steers clear of this child so it doesn't become an issue for me but it still creates a difficult atmosphere sometimes. Grrr.
I am feeling very pregnant and full of baby today. I have been quite energetic the past two days and done lots of walking, but ben absolutely knackered by early evening. Last night I fell asleep at 7.30 pm on the sofa and was in bed by 9pm. Made it easy to get up with dd this morning though.
Anyway I think that is quite enough for now.

CONGRATULATIONS Charley! How lovely and romantic.

Hope everyone is OK. Lynny, glad you went to the dr, hope it calms down for you. Mrs W, am with you on the backache, and also feel like I've been kicked in the groin (nice).

Apart from that, everything ticking along, hectic last week of term for ds (farm trip tomorrow, think of me eating a sandwich perched on a bale of hay). Getting ready to go on holiday at the weekend - yay.

Happy birthday to your dd, Uwila!

Charleypops your changing your name!!!

wow! venice did I miss that last week or something just though you were AWOL.

I have finally finished all my assignments Lippy I am meeting a netmums mum this week I joined that site too because the have a bit dedicated to your area and I have a few new people lined up to meet. Also they go into schooling in your area stuff like that - you probably know it. Useful for local issues.

I am a bit tired but am on easter holiday after tomorrow so I am going to get some sleep for once I am a bit stressed I suppose coop but I'll be alright - I always am just need to moan about it a bit

Charleypops - I'd send a letter to your mum then you don't have to open the reply but you've done it. I tried writing one a while back but never sent it. There would be no point. My mother is melodramatic and psycho style and I would never get past the deluge of hatred and censure from the rest of the family. They all think I am evil and a waste of space because she has always told them how awful I am - you know how she has done everything for me (but failing to fill them in that she used to stand me on scales and put me on a diet when I was 4 years old continually torturing me about how fat I was until I hid food under my bed wondering when I was allowed to eat....) I figure I can't change her and she's just bad news. My dad says its because she tries too hard - poor bastard loves her. Well he'll be telling her on his holiday this fortnight that I'm having a baby because I had to compromise I suppose. I think its killing him keeping the secret specially when she'll be a right bitch about it. She'll make out like it was the most awful thing I could do and the whole family will ring to tell me how ungrateful I am and how I seek attention and mum does everything for me..... yeah yeah yeah... I have ordered a telephone with caller id and it will be installed before they get back. Then I don't have to answer my phone to anyone I don't want to speak to avoiding the problem as I don't think you can reason with people like her. Oh well her loss really, I'll never trust her.

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Aw Coop - that is romantic - I love those big European storms!

Mrs F - where you going?

Pink - well done for finishing your assignments - that must feel great . Yes, I'll be changing my name, never felt any allegiance to the one I have, otherwise I wouldn't

I wrote a long long very detailed letter to my mum a few months ago at the beginning of this particular episode, but could never send it. She's just too emotionally fragile. It helped with the guilt I felt/feel a LOT though. You've had a horrid time with your mum , I totally understand that sometimes you eventually just have to let go of the mum she "could be", accept her for who she is and stop trying to change her. Avoidance is sometimes the only thing to do to stay sane.

Lynny - glad you've found out what it is - there is a thread on MN on exactly what you have - do a search on "rash" in Subject Headings and you should find it if you're interested.

Charley,
If you want to make your mu look bad, and yourself good, you could send your mums flowers or a basket of goodies and tell her the good news in a very cute and cheery way. Maybe you could get an "it's a boy" bouquet and say something like "announcing the forthcoming arrival of Pod the sod..." Okay, maybe not pod the sod. But, it's a cute cheery approach for spreading the good news. And you won't have to be there to be disappointed by the reaction because of course you won't see it.

If she wants to know why it took so long to tell her, just say you wanted to wait until you knew everything was okay before announcing the good news.

Charley,
If you want to make your mu look bad, and yourself good, you could send your mums flowers or a basket of goodies and tell her the good news in a very cute and cheery way. Maybe you could get an "it's a boy" bouquet and say something like "announcing the forthcoming arrival of Pod the sod..." Okay, maybe not pod the sod. But, it's a cute cheery approach for spreading the good news. And you won't have to be there to be disappointed by the reaction because of course you won't see it.

If she wants to know why it took so long to tell her, just say you wanted to wait until you knew everything was okay before announcing the good news.

Morning all,

Welshie - I think I have the tube thing sussed - it's all about catching their eye and surupticiously scratching your tummy to draw attention to it ...although I've found it's nearly always a woman that offers and I'm on the tube at about 8.10 in the morning so maybe it's less crowded then?? Sorry you had to stand again last night - I would definitely ask in future if I were you.

KVG - LOL, Nanny Ogg - I love Nanny Ogg, although dh reckons when I'm in a bad mood I'm more like Granny Weatherwax ...have to say tho that he reminds me of Corporal Carrot at times, means well but is abit too 'correct' sometimes, he he he not brave enough to tell him tho, suspect he would put himself down more as Ventinari, he he he as if he would ever really be in charge!!

Mrs W / Lynney sorry to hear about your 'ailments' hope they're sorted soon. Lynney it's a good job you get on so well with your mw with her visiting every day - makes a heck of difference, my booking in one was lovely, but I have to see a different one for appoints at the mo (original one does wednesday appoints when I'm at work) and Thursday mw seems very standoffish...never mind when I'm on mat leave I can book wednesday appoints again!

Pink - great that you're meeting others in the area. As others have said most babes are late, so I'm sure you'll be able to get all the exams out of the way before ds's arrival.

Pink/Charley - mothers eh - actually families in general, that saying about chosing friends not family, soooo true...I'll adopt you both if you want, your both lovely and I always did want a big family

Uwila - glad your dd had a good day yesterday, it's lovely when they become more aware of 'the event' and get so excited with pressies and cakes

Engagements - not the most romantic for us I'm afraid, we were out for a meal one night talking about moving house when dh says '...or I suppose we could get married? I dunno, what do you fancy moving this year or getting married...lets see what we can afford...' I had it all organised within 1 month and for less than £3000 including the honeymoon...weeellll didn't want him to change his mind, he he he!

mornin' all

Lynny- fear not: I haven't been snivelling into my maltesers grieving that my fantastic cabbage tip was reduced to Shrek jokes....

I love the sound of your midwife, btw, she sounds great!

Coop - sorry-can't-stop-nesting. It's an obsession.....

glad to say the car is now working (thanks to fantastic Dh) and so didn't have to brave the tube today

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