Dec 08: but that doesn't mean you can touch my bump!

[rosmerta]

New thread with bisou's title suggestion

Good work, Bisou - I was wondering about everyone!

Plus, does anyone have the link for the meet up on 19th? I'm definitely going to try to make it - just waiting to hear about one thing...

Off now.

Byeee.
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oh they already do Bisou and my friends here in Derby rib me constantly about my Australian accent (london friends are obviously used to it with so many of us down there) so can't win.

Thanks Bisou, sweet dreams! Just wondering if anyone has had it or knows much about it...

Hi Bisou oh now I REALLY feel homesick, between you and Veggie! (but also glad about the weather!)I'm from QLD - Sunshine Coast, but will be in the UK until at least 2012 as DH is tied down working for the NHS !!! It seems like ages away, though I am lucky to have family visit a lot and I go home a lot too, though I'm still jealous I was in America for a bit before this though, and I must say, I much prefer the UK!
Just looked over the new list - wow there are a lot of us! HollyMiranda my friend is having her boy at Chelsea & W - she's due in 8 weeks! I will tell you how it goes there for her - i've heard good things!
Well I've been Betty Crocker today- just made a batch of choc chip cookies - I can't believe how much of the mixture I must have eaten before I baked them I made a double batch but I will have to tell DH it was just a single!

cheers veggiemummy,just read your post...
I didnt realise this forum was worldwide, am very impressed with all the talk of opera singers and Sydney Opera house!
Anyone live in Southend on Sea (sorry to lower the standard ;-)

pixisx what a complete pain ! and yes I did measure to under my boobs so that was wrong - phew !

we haven't discussed names much as DP hasn't made a list - he has a deadline of week 30 or we default to my list !

Bisou congrats on little boy

Yes good point - what happened to kayz ?...

Loving your updated list Bisou. It looks so exciting now.

Wow bisou you are so organised rearranging our list and at 1.30am too!

we are trying to decide on girls name at the mo and have started a thread in babynames "help me to decide" would you take a look and let me know your opinion i would do a link but i dont know how!

veggie & kmp am very impressed with your domestic endeavours! I read a thread recently where a poster suggested you do a room a day properly so I've been trying to do that to keep on top of everything.

zj that sounds like a fab place, wish we had something like that !

missmama how worrying for you, take it easy for a couple of days. Hopefully it will all settle down.

turnip your dd looks so grown up & cute! I have to apply for ds's nursery school this year and I can't get my head round that he'll be going next year!

beans I don't know much about bp's, but the dr did say to me that anything can pretty much affect it. Am sure everything's ok.

olipop happy birthday for yesterday! Sounds like a lovely cake!

jumpjockey ds has two middle names so that could work for you

webbi I've had mild depression in the past and the dr said the same to me. I just said I'd rather see how it goes than take tablets just in case something might go wrong, he seemed to accept that but we'll see. Funnily enough, it was never mentioned when I was pg with ds, just this time

bisou thanks for the updated list, how organised you are! Congratulations on the boy. My ds has been very sweet and loving today so I'm loving boys atm

reban I'll head over to your thread and offer my oh so wise opinion . Am wondering whether to start a thread about boys names as that's where we're stuck!

Phew, is that everyone covered? .

earls court is way too expensive these days for us Aussies, i think the east end is being over run by us these days.

Am quite of those in Oz, we went there for our honeymoon and wanted to emigrate, but it didn't work out . Oh well, maybe in the future at some point.

Ditto with my DS here is being just lovely. I straightened my hair this morning and he told me i looked beautiful, then has spent most of the day giving me cuddles and telling me he loved me. He even offered me his bottle of water to drink.

hey i think i need one of those rubbish picker upper things you see street sweepers and cleaners at festivals use. I can't bend over to pick anything up anymore. I can squat down for now, but i remember even that go difficult on my knees towards the end of the last pregnancy so need something else to keep all the crap off our floor.

After putting my washing out so early i had to bring it back in because it rained. but i did vacuum and mop the kitchen and living room, however i'm kind of ignoring everywhere else. maybe i should do that one room a day thing.

mismama that sounds so scary. Take it easy and I hope it does not happen again.

Turnip-it is such a milestone when they start school. My DD started year 1 today and I cannot believe she is so grown up

Bisou sounds like you have an amazing job. Glad you updated the list so well with sex of the babies included. Congrats on your boy.

Bad as the weather is in Sydney it cannot be anything like Brighton. It has rained all day. As I waddled to school with my 'pac a mac' on looking and feeling huge, with no make up on and hair scraped back, I thought how it is one of those days when I am likely to bump into some trendy/beautiful/cool person I knew from before I had kids. (Luckily I didn't!)

Webbi not sure about PND but sounds like you have not been treated well. I am an Essex girl, but as you can see above now live in Brighton, but grew up in Rayleigh.

aaaahhhh i'm so full i had a veggie pie and a big serving of mash potato with loads of butter with steamed veggies yuuuuum. When DH is away i always eat stodge.

veggie i used to have one of those devices you are talking about as i have a history of a dodgy back, my physio gave it to me. But i do know my sister has recently bought one as she is disabled due to her back problems and cant bend at all. They are very useful and i will ask my sis where she got hers from for you!

oh cool it's either that or just give up on being able to see the floor. DS is learning to pick things up for me and clean up his toys but feel a bit guilty making him do it all the time. I can't believe bending is this difficult at 25 weeks!

Just a quick post to webbi, as I had PND with DD. There are some ADs that are safe to take when breastfeeding - some of the SSRIs - and depending on how severe the depression is your Dr may suggest it's safer for both of you if you take them rather than not.

Obviously a very personal decision. I put off taking mine until I weaned DD at one year - and by then my PND was pretty bad. I have to say the ADs worked well after a few months but I did put heaps of weight on - despite having been assured by my GP that the type she had prescribed wouldn't affect me that way at all .

With hindsight, I wish I'd taken them sooner as I would have got better sooner and enjoyed more of DD's first year... but that's easy to say and difficult to do. I'm completely fine again now though - was only on the AD's for about nine months in the end and had no trouble coming off (to ttc ).

Hope this ramble is useful!

Morning everyone...hope you are all well. I think my DS has kindly shared his coldie-cough with me, feeling a bit grot.
All this PND talk is very scary, you read so many stories. Glad yours was well managed Verso. I think I went a bit nutty after DS was born. I felt like I couldn't stay in the house and was out doing this that and the other all the time. I don't know whether it was the right thing or not in hindsight. I might well have had problems if I'd stayed in but I think I ran myself a bit ragged. I think I'm going to have to take it a bit easier this time round but maybe I wont have that 'can't stay in the house' feeling. I have a friend who was agrophobic (fine now though) and I wonder if that was in the back of my mind. We're strange creatures aren't we!

ZJ - where is this centre? it sounds like heaven.

re: pnd - really important to talk about it and beware that it may possibly happen to us. have had mild depression in the past and my gp told me to be alert to it happening again, and if so to come in and talk. really useful to share stories.

here's a question about bf. what if we have problems and it is on christmas eve/day/boxing day/new year? should i make contact wth a bf counsellor already, just in case, or should i just rely on helplines (which may well be closed over the holiday period?) apparently some helplines go straight to people's private phone lines and while i don't want to interrupt someone else's christmas, if i need help, i'm going to need help. have a mw appt in 2 weeks and will also ask them.

oops, sorry, i think i posted an almost identical question about bf a while back - just can't remember what people said. apols

Waitinggirl - re breastfeeding, based on my experience, if you need help, you need it quickly, not 3-4 days later. So don't hesitate to call someone at home or make sure you set up contact with someone ahead. Don't want to scare anyone, but DD didn't initially take to breastfeeding and within about 3-4 days of being back home was readmitted to hospital having lost 20% of her body weight and gone into kidney failure. It took a week for her to come out again. And we didn't even really realise something was seriously wrong . Part of the problem was that it was around the May bank holiday so one of her checks got postponed, so it got picked up later than it might have done otherwise. So if you have any doubts about whether feeding is going OK, you should get help and get it quickly. BTW - DD did eventually get the hang of it and was exclusively breastfed until she decided she didn't fancy it any more at 9 months old!

WG i'm really not sure of what the deal is but i do know that the people on the end of the line would rather be contacted on christmas day rather than have you be having problems, esp as it involves a new baby getting their nutrition and may be the difference between someone continuing to BF or not. Your baby's hydration and wellbeing is more important than their christmas lunch and they know that and thats wh y they make themselves available. Your local NCT may also have BF councesllors available as well as the NHS ones. Also worst comes to worst there will be a community midwife oncall and the wards will always be staffed with midwives over the holiday period so you can always contact them.

Hello everybody! Long time no post...

It was a nice surprise to know that anybody noticed I hadn't been on for ages Verso - it just so happens that I've been feeling a bit miserable and neglected by my RL friends at the moment so it did cheer me up. Has anyone else felt like they've disappeared off the radar for certain friends since they've had kids? In my case it seems to be most of my male friends - the ones with no kids - who just don't bother getting in touch any more (or in the case of the one I fell out with this week, only when they want a favour). Hmmmph!

So yeah, been ages since I posted - I do read the thread but I tend to read in big chunks at work, so not only has the conversation moved on by the time I get to the end but I also feel a bit iffy about posting at work (though God knows why - I might as well be posting for all the work I'm doing at the moment). I'm not at work today though (hurrah!). Is anyone else hating work at the moment? I literally count the days until my maternity leave several times a day.

So anyway, since I haven't posted since our last meet-up (so rude) I'd like to say hello to Verso, LadyT, EffiePerine, rosmerta, PinguRocks, pixsix and Olipop. It was lovely to meet you all. Unfortunately I can't make the next one as I'm away at my brother's 40th / nephew's 2nd that weekend. Hopefully I'll be able to go to the one after that though.

On the subject of PND - I didn't have it but I did feel like I was in a black hole for about the first 6-8 weeks and the haze only lifted gradually (I was getting better by about 4 months). I had the opposite experience to you actually Olipop. I hardly left the house in that time or even got dressed, and when I did it was only because I felt I ought to or was pressured into it by DP who understandably wanted to get out and about and show off our lovely new baby. I couldn't stand having visitors either but some are inevitable - it ended up that all DP's friends had met the baby and pretty much none of mine had by the time he was a few months old, and it did feel quite lonely. I don't think this is necessarily typical though - a lot of people at least appear to breeze through it. I reckon it's definitely best to be prepared though just in case, and not to underestimate the power of raging hormones (especially as your milk comes in a few days after the birth). I found the urge to protect DS sometimes a bit overwhelming, to an unpleasant degree (hard to explain).

waitinggirl - I would imagine that a lot of the people running the helplines will have been through it themselves and will understand how you are feeling and that if you need help you need help and you can't control when that will be, so try not to worry about it too much. Don't forget that there are loads of knowledgeable people on Mumsnet as well. If you're still worried about it nearer the time I'll happily give you my phone number - I'm no bf counsellor but I did have big problems breastfeeding (which accounts for most of what I described above) and dedicated a lot of time to researching the subject, so I can at least offer a sympathetic ear and perhaps even some useful advice.

Anyway, coming up to the third trimester now (or are we there already? I'm confused - 26+4 atm) and I'm still waiting for my burst of energy. I swear I felt like a goddess at this stage in my last pregnancy - this time I just feel like a big lump.

Am thinking of going to Clissold Leisure with DP and DS later on. Anybody been (Effie maybe)? Been hearing mixed reports on how good it is for toddlers (mine's 17 months).