Due June 08: S**t, it IS June, and I still haven't packed my hospital bag...

[LauraT]

well it will be June on Sunday anyway! thought I should go ahead and start this as there were several votes for this name...

Evening ladies

Spoke to DH tonight on SKype and he's all sorted for tomorrow. My cousin is here and we have a plan for if something happens ...

... although I have exactly the opposite of all of the rest of you. My bump is measuring fine, but because of my boobs and because I'm 5.9, it looks small. So people come up to me and assume I'm about 30 weeks. Even my obstetrician friend and my NCT mates (all of whom should know better) think I look small!

Congrats Paro and Pajama

Greenfairy good luck hope all goes well.

Upsidedown how you baring up with DH away it makes you a bit twitchy even with back up doesnt it?

Had a lovely weekend Mum took the kids away Friday tea time and took them home tonight it was heaven...had a proper DH and Me time doing nothing special but being together.

Still getting bucket load of twinges,still getting bits of show...must be breaking away slowly...but thankfully I have calmed down a bit and stopped getting myself in a state...though today I took a fettish for munching raw Onion and pacing the floors... I kept wanting to go upstairs....and the lower back pain I had was driving me nuts.

...oh flipping heck, DS2 has just come in (he went to the museum today) and told me that he's started worshipping Egyptian gods. I will let DH deal with this one.

I started going loopy after seeing the midwife last week, when she went on about my tummy being pendulous. I know it's just becuase I'm so hormonal and tired, but it really upset me. I'm very self-conscious about the state of my tummy anyway (it's been really damaged by pregnancies and will quite possibly need surgery later on) and the only time I don't feel so bashful about it is when I'm heavily pregnant. The muscles are a total mess and don't support my back properly, and obviously cosmetically it is a total write-off - far worse than anything you see in adverts for cosmetic surgery.

The midwife is really nice and I'm sure it just didn't occur to her that she was upsetting me - she was just using the appropriate term for what she could see and explaining why it was so difficult to assess the baby's position. What's so stupid is that exactly the same thing happened just before I had DD . So now instead of feeling merely heavily pregnant, tired etc etc I now feel like I want to hide my horrid freaky dysfunctional body under a tent and wallow in worries about the baby. I'm even fretting about the midwives and doula seeing my horrid tummy when I'm in labour. Sorry for being so self-indulgent..

DH is furious that after going to all the effort (and expense) of being nice and relaxed all it's taken is one throw-away comment and I'm now even more demented than usual. He keeps going on about all the things we could have bought instead

Anyway, I'm really sorry for being such a drip. I had forgotten how grim this last few weeks can be.

oh rolf - poor you -not a drip at all. How tactless of the midwife - as you say its not like we're over sensitive, tired and fed up. It just sounds like you've got "battle scars" in the same way people who do sports have but its fixable (And in service of a good cause - bringing back the worship of the egyptian gods ).

Also if you are feeling self conscious can you make sure that wear something comfy and covering for labour (I have already raided dh's oversize teeshirt for gym to that effect).

Am intrigued by your ds.. is there any particular god or all of them he is keen on?

I have finally put up a little profile with a blurry picture in it!
Taken today after feeding ducks.

Feeling V proud
It's not as fantabulous as Deb's/ most people's, and I'm too shy ever to do a blog...

Feetwise, mine are huge too. When I feel the need to cover them up I am going for converse with the laces much looser than normal....I loved them pre pregnancy and intend the wear them post pregnancy too. Someone on this thread (I think) recommended a cold foot bath for puffy feet, which I do when they get too big and it does help, as well as feeling great.

Rolf - You are not a drip! You're a perfectly normal hormonal pregnant woman. I promise that your body is not horrid, freaky or dysfunctional! It is absolutely wonderful and has created three wonderful children and is about to create another. And it can't be that bad, you've certainly been attractive enough to make someone have sex with you at least once in the last nine months!

Please don't compare yourself to pre cosmetic surgery pictures, they're meant to make everyone feel bad so we all rush out and have surgery! Just think of the before pictures in clearasil adds (a lucky good looking kid with three spots) and think of the kids you went to school with that had real acne. It's the same thing...

The only covered shoes that still fit me are my flat lacoste trainer style shoes (fasten with velcro). Am sure any of this style would do. I had them before I was pregnant and they were a size too big. Now I have to wear them on the very loosest fitting available. Have also worn flip flops on chilly wet days too.

Feeling unloved - put myself on the due dates list about 3 times but am still not on it whenever anyone sends it around again with updates

Want to contribute when i feel like anything is happening (not yet but soon hopefully as having sweep next week). Can I please join in?

Amber (due 11 June x)

Peartart - Your bump is very well hidden in your pic and your DD is lovely!

Just saw you liked the Time Travellers wife - did you see Dr Who last night? It appeared to be a direct rip off, but David Tennant is so yummy, I didn't really mind.

BTW, remember we were measuring bumps the other day and mine was 50". I worked out today that means I am only 13" taller than I am round.

hi amberc - course you can (i expect people just picking up old lists) but have included you. How are you feeling as not too long to go for you (am sooo jealous as feel fat and puffy and not due til 20th...)

pp/peartart love time travellers wife too - they're makign a film of it apparently..

Our latest list was:

Graduated
DD29/05/08 - neenz, esther and theo
18/5/08 - makecakes, Cecily jean Olivia
20/5/08 - Goingfor3 Harvey
24/5/08 - Katyjo Mia Joanne

Still waiting:
Early June - Kif -(DC3)!
31/05/08 - systemsaddict -(1 ds 1YO) GIRL
31/05/08 - lazylou -(1 DD 3.9/ MC September 04)
01/06/08 - laughinglil -(3YO twins)
01/06/08 - Trix11 -(DS and DD)
01/06/08 - alipalli -(1st baby)
03/06/08 - paromapu -(first baby)a girl will be called Fleur
05/06/08 - Tizzwizz -(MC June)
05/06/08 - emotionalwreck
05/06/08 - aberdeenhiker -(DS, June 06)
05/06/08 - Josey -(1 DS8yo, 1 DD2yo)GIRL
05/06/08 - mistermoo -(DD5, DS3)
06/06/08 - Calebsmum -(DC2)
06/06/08 - supperwoman -(DC2)
06/06/08 - nettiehay -(first baby)
06/06/08 - Lucy0608 -(1st Baby)
07/06/08 - Debinaustria -(2 ds's 8 and 6)BOY
07/06/08 - mellymel -(DS 14 months)
07/06/08 - dylansluckymum -(1DS 23 mos) BOY!
07/06/08 - Rolf -(2 dss 8 and 6, 1dd 2) GIRL
10/06/08 - basilbrush -(1 DS Feb 06, 2 m/cs 2007)
11/06/08 - thegreenfairy -(first baby)
11/06/08 - Amberc
12/06/08 - Pregnant Penguin -(1st baby) BOY
12/06/08 - essie3 - (first baby)
13/06/08 - tassisssss -(ds aged 4, dd 15 mths)
14/06/08 - Deese20 -(1st Baby)
14/06/08 - PearTart - (DD1 is 19 months) GIRL
15/06/08 - Jules43 -(1st baby)
15/06/08 - sybilvimes -(2 dc)Boy!!
16/06/08 - xxgemmalou22xx (first Baby)
17/06/08 - GardenAngel4 -(DD 7months)
18/06/08 - Josie57 -(ds1 13 months, mc sep 07)
18/06/08 - hedgehog1979 -(first baby)
19/06/08 - Pyjamarama -(BOY)
20/06/08 - babyalfie -(got 3 DC - 16, 14 & 7)
20/06/08 - ernest -(got 3 dc - 8, 7 & 4) will be sectioned on 09/06/08
20/06/08 - poppy34 -(2 m/c, one ds lost at 21 weeks) (GIRL)
20/06/08 - whinegums - (first baby) BOY
21/06/08 - HeyBaby07 -(First Baby)
21/06/08 - Hoggle -(First Baby)
21/06/08 - needahand -(DC2) (boy)
21/06/08 - Wigeon -(First Baby)
22/06/08 - Upsidedowncake -(1DS 27 m, ep Aug 07) GIRL
22/06/08 - bitofadramaqueen -(first baby)
22/06/08 - august26bride -(First Baby)
22/06/08 - spongebrainbigpants -(m/c twins and singleton on 2006, all IVF pgs) Boy!
22/06/08 - ktpie -(first baby)
23/06/08 - looneytune -(DS 4 yrs) BOY
24/06/08 - puddock -(first baby)
26/06/08 - LauraT (first baby)
26/06/08 - Claphamkitten -(first baby)
27/06/08 - sophiewd -(DD 22 months) section booked on 19th June
30/06/08 - capricornqueen appt-(DD 2yrs)
30/06/08 - Kittyjimjams -(2 MC)
Gemzooks - EDD???

Rolf- You shouldn't feel self-conscious about your tummy; making babies is an amazing thing but also something that comes at a physical cost. If you've been through the mill physically it's not your fault. And now is not the time to focus on it.
Make sure you have comfortable clothes for labour etc, and remember that the MW's/ doula are there to guide you and your new babe through a safe labour regardless of how many stretch-marks each person has.
There will be time after to plan if you need to have reconstructive help and if so to look into options when you are ready.

and rolf -given how I feel now about my first baby, you're my heroine to be going for no 4. And don't think you won't be bothered for experienced mum tips when my time arrives.. keep having dreams about not knowing what to do wiht baby (first it was feeding, now its not knowing how to wrap her up for bed)

Rolf - please don't fret about your body. Like PP says, you have brought 3 people into the world (nearly 4) and that is the most amazing thing anyone can do. I would find a very comfy t-shirt to wear in labour, will probably be doing this myself.

I know if is easy to feel self-consious in pregnancy - I am fed up of people commenting on the size of my stomach - you wouldn't do that to non-pregnant women would you? We all carry our pregnancies and our weight differently don't we? I myself was measuring 37 weeks last time I saw the midwife two weeks ago when I was 35 weeks - she said not to worry and they give us 3 cm lee-way either side before they worry. Mind you if that's the case I will probably be measuring 39-40 weeks this week, which it certainly feels like. Will try to put my picture up so you can all laugh at my bump which is so low it will be hanging around my knees soon!

Hi Poppy34 - not feeling too bad but do have SPD so am more or less housebound which does make the boredom a bit unbearable. Looking forward (!!) to my sweep next week at 39 weeks although not expacting too much as other than Braxton Hicks I don't really have any imminent symptoms (baby is 4/5 engaged though). Thanks for putting me on the list - feel all warm and included now! Saying that need to go to bed as I had my most eventful day in ages and went to see SATC at the cinema and am now tired out with all the excitment. It's 2.5 hours long by the way so all June-ers - take a pillow with you if you go!!

Goodnight ladies, I'm off to bed for (hopefully) a decent night's sleep. Hope you all sleep better tonight.

once again i've just really quickly skimmed posts as i just can't sit here long enough to do it properly but good luck!! to greenfairy, i remember when my waters broke with ds i was so shocked by how much and how long it leaked for! how exciting though hope it all goes really well.

i am feeling just as grumbly and sick of it as everyone and it makes me feel so much better that it's not just me! my fil said 'not long to go now', in a very kindly way, and i wanted to bite his head off, and scream, it might not seem like it to you!!!!

i did have my first contractions that felt a bit period-pain like earlier though so that was exciting. but of course they've stopped now.

PP/ Poppy- I'm eagerly awaiting the film version of TT's Wife. Hope they can do the book justice- it's had me in tears and laughing out loud (I'm just an old romantic!)
Also should feature Eric Bana running along naked quite a bit... Now if that doesn't sell it...

Ps I could forgive David Tennant most things but an still traumatised by Dr Who as a kid (pathetic I know)

Amber- our due dates are quite close, but nothing much happening here. Love your bump pic!

Hi guys, thank you so much for all your birthday wishes - I've had a lovely birthday, and did get loads of pressies for me from all my friends (in fact, it was only my SIL and MIL that bought presents for the baby and not me - paranoid me would read something into this about their feelings about me, and how I'm now just a brood mare for their grandson/nephew, but trying to push these thoughts to one side! ).

greenfairy, how exciting - hope you do get a 1st June baby as no-one else appears to have delivered today!

Rolf, so sorry you feel so bad about your body - mine's looking pretty awful and I'm only on baby no 1. But I am trying to tell myself it's all for a good cause - it takes more than a pep talk though doesn't it? I was overweight for years before I started fertility treatment and lost 6 stone before commencing IVF, so I know what it's like to have poor body image. As others have said, your MW should really be more sensitive.

Thank you for all the input on induction - the sensible side of me knows that I should be patient and wait, but the pain is really getting to me now and the swelling of my feet is horrendous (Evans is a good place for shoes for big feet btw, if anyone is struggling). I had a good cry when all my friends went home today - I think cos I was so tired and cos I'd been sat up all day and not been able to put my feet up the swelling was really bad. I just feel so awful for feeling like this because I have waited so many years for this baby and don't want to spoil the last few weeks of my pg by being miserable - but it looks like most people feel like this towards the end of pg so I suppose I shouldn't expect to feel any different.

Goodnight all, hope you all get a better night's sleep.

Evening all,

spongebrain glad you had a nice birthday and massive well done for losing 6 stone!

Rolf also sorry about your mw's insensitive comments. I think I've gone on about my weight enough on here for you to get the picture that I have a few body image issues too. Hope you feel a bit better soon.

Thanks all for suggestions on shoes - will have a look this week for a pair.

Peartart glad your dd is ok.

Right, heading off to bed soon - fingers crossed for a much better nights sleep for me and everyone else!

Thanks guys

I can't sleep.

My Inner Wimp has woken and is fretting about the birth, who'll look after DD during it and all sorts of other things.

Why have I not been scared of the birth before???
Rational answer: because it'll be OK however it happens; there are professionals on hand to help in difficult situations. I, and many other women, have done this before and survived and even done on to have more children... etc etc etc

And having a new baby is an amazing thing.

There, sorted!

Rolf- I hope you're asleep again now. I second the Big Scream for going with a newborn and sitting in the dark feeding and watching a film. At participating cinemas around the country...

My grandfather called last night to find out when I thought I was having this baby. Apparently he's started a baby-pool for overdue dates and wanted to know what the best place to put his money was. All the original guesses have come and gone already so this is number 2. This time I'm demanding a cut of the profits (50-50 between me and the winner).

I'm not sleeping these days because of the strong B-H, I'm up every 90 minutes to change position, so I honestly think I'd prefer a cascade of intervention to another two weeks of no sleep... This baby is already way more troublesome than DS ever was!

Rolf - midwives seem to have an lack of empathy sometimes... I hope you're feeling better today.

as a group, we're pretty bad at keeping the list updated! Here's my try at the latest version (pyjamarama and Paro disappeared off the graduates).

Graduated
DD29/05/08 - neenz, esther and theo
18/5/08 - makecakes, Cecily jean Olivia
20/5/08 - Goingfor3 Harvey
24/5/08 - Katyjo Mia Joanne
29/5/08 - pyjamrama William James Frederick
30/5/08 - Paromapu, Fleur

Still waiting:
Early June - Kif -(DC3)!
31/05/08 - systemsaddict -(1 ds 1YO) GIRL
31/05/08 - lazylou -(1 DD 3.9/ MC September 04)
01/06/08 - laughinglil -(3YO twins)
01/06/08 - Trix11 -(DS and DD)
01/06/08 - alipalli -(1st baby)
05/06/08 - Tizzwizz -(MC June)
05/06/08 - emotionalwreck
05/06/08 - aberdeenhiker -(DS, June 06)
05/06/08 - Josey -(1 DS8yo, 1 DD2yo)GIRL
05/06/08 - mistermoo -(DD5, DS3)
06/06/08 - Calebsmum -(DC2)
06/06/08 - supperwoman -(DC2)
06/06/08 - nettiehay -(first baby)
06/06/08 - Lucy0608 -(1st Baby)
07/06/08 - Debinaustria -(2 ds's 8 and 6)BOY
07/06/08 - mellymel -(DS 14 months)
07/06/08 - dylansluckymum -(1DS 23 mos) BOY!
07/06/08 - Rolf -(2 dss 8 and 6, 1dd 2) GIRL
10/06/08 - basilbrush -(1 DS Feb 06, 2 m/cs 2007)
11/06/08 - thegreenfairy -(first baby)
11/06/08 - Amberc
12/06/08 - Pregnant Penguin -(1st baby) BOY
12/06/08 - essie3 - (first baby)
13/06/08 - tassisssss -(ds aged 4, dd 15 mths)
14/06/08 - Deese20 -(1st Baby)
14/06/08 - PearTart - (DD1 is 19 months) GIRL
15/06/08 - Jules43 -(1st baby)
15/06/08 - sybilvimes -(2 dc)Boy!!
16/06/08 - xxgemmalou22xx (first Baby)
17/06/08 - GardenAngel4 -(DD 7months)
18/06/08 - Josie57 -(ds1 13 months, mc sep 07)
18/06/08 - hedgehog1979 -(first baby)
20/06/08 - babyalfie -(got 3 DC - 16, 14 & 7)
20/06/08 - ernest -(got 3 dc - 8, 7 & 4) will be sectioned on 09/06/08
20/06/08 - poppy34 -(2 m/c, one ds lost at 21 weeks) (GIRL)
20/06/08 - whinegums - (first baby) BOY
21/06/08 - HeyBaby07 -(First Baby)
21/06/08 - Hoggle -(First Baby)
21/06/08 - needahand -(DC2) (boy)
21/06/08 - Wigeon -(First Baby)
22/06/08 - Upsidedowncake -(1DS 27 m, ep Aug 07) GIRL
22/06/08 - bitofadramaqueen -(first baby)
22/06/08 - august26bride -(First Baby)
22/06/08 - spongebrainbigpants -(m/c twins and singleton on 2006, all IVF pgs) Boy!
22/06/08 - ktpie -(first baby)
23/06/08 - looneytune -(DS 4 yrs) BOY
24/06/08 - puddock -(first baby)
26/06/08 - LauraT (first baby)
26/06/08 - Claphamkitten -(first baby)
27/06/08 - sophiewd -(DD 22 months) section booked on 19th June
30/06/08 - capricornqueen appt-(DD 2yrs)
30/06/08 - Kittyjimjams -(2 MC)
Gemzooks - EDD???

MOrning everyone, no news from here, after a few good BH last night I managed a pretty good nights sleep with no other signs. I feel good for the sleep but a bit disappointed , I was so uncomfortable yesterday I thought this was it!!

Wonder how TGF is?

What's everyone else up to today?

Hello June thread! Ive been trying to figure out how to get onto this.....!
Due 2 weeks tomorrow, I so hope this 2nd one isnt late.