May Mummies, w/c MAY OMG, it's May, buds and babies will bloom, don't want to be left til June.

[Mrsjaffabiffa]

Morning,

Afternoon ladies.

Just got back from an extremely exciting trip to buy a kitchen bin and some clothes pegs. Don't tell me I don't know how to live.

Lupins, if you want to talk anytime then you have my email address. I'm not sure if you want to hear my tuppence worth, feel free to ignore me. While what your DH is doing is completely unacceptable, reading about it makes me more than . I know it's so easy to shout 'kick him out', 'give him what for' etc, but it's a serious situation that needs clear thinking before you tackle it. You've been through nine years together and some terrible lows and amazing highs. Losing Morgan and your brother, panic attacks, having Willow and Arlen for example are all monumental things that have affected you in countless ways. They have also affected DH and his distance, denial and burying his head in the PC while absolutely disgusting also reeks of him hiding. What is he like with babies? How was he with Willow? I can't believe any father would willingly be so hands-off with their little newborn without some underlying cause. Is he better once they get older (I know far too many Dads who can't cope with children until they start talking/walking etc- sad but they just can't relate)? Is he frightened? Has he properly dealt with what happened to Morgan? Everything is your decision and you do what is best for you- we'll all help if we can- but growing apart so slowly takes a long time, it takes just as long to grow back towards each other if that's what you want. He has to be willing though and he has to know how you feel. Sorry to ramble on. If you want to sort things out with him then you've got 9 years together to draw on and it will take complete and utter honesty and him making changes. I might be completely wrong, but I hate to think of you feeling so and thinking your only options are to stick in there and be treated so terribly or try and find a way out. I can't believe he is happy, you're clearly not happy and if you want to sort it now is the time, you have two beautiful little children and they and you deserve a Dad and husband that sees that. Oh I wish I was closer, I'd come and scoop you up in a big hug and feed you icecream.

Ramble over...

Went out last night and had such a lovely time. Saw fabby folk singers (Mathilda likes the ukulele, she was jigging away like a proper little folkie at times), got Chinese on the way home and ate it in bed. Didn't get to sleep till 1am and was exhausted but it felt nice to be doing something so reminiscent of pre-pregnancy. Also had a lie-in this morning and have been for lunch in a little cafe. Very pleased with my Brabantia boing bin- you know you smack the top and it boings open. Oh, simple things, simple minds.

We're having a bbq this summer to celebrate the birth of our first little nipper. If anybody fancies a trip to Norfolk you are of course cordially invited. We're having it at the IL's house- much bigger than ours, enormous garden and friends with children can relax as our house is right on the river, tis not very safe. Am deadly serious, will let you know when it's planned for- a Sunday in July/August probably and there's lots and lots of space and bbq food planned, beds if you want to crash. Would be lovely to have you all visit and I consider it a sort of outreach programme- get some of you out of the Big Smoke and out in the fresh air. You might want to come a bit early though so I can hold some kind or orientation session. How to get around without an underground death train, why the air isn't black with smog and what to do if next door's cows get into the garden- all to be covered in detail with enough time for questions at the end. We need a [cheekymare] emoticon I think.

DH is taking me somewhere for the day on Monday. It's our second wedding anniversary (8yrs today since he asked me to be his girlyfriend) and it's a surprise. Last year I had complete laryngitis on our anniversary, couldn't speak at all and he'd planned so much lovely stuff. We went to Cambridge, moonlight punting, had a meal, saw a band, got up the next day and went to a rural life museum with a farm attached to it (don't laugh, I loved it) and the whole time I couldn't say a word. People must have thought we were so in love, gazing endlessly into each other's eyes. In reality I couldn't speak and he learnt very quickly that if he said anything cheeky safe in the knowledge that I couldn't retaliate, I would swiftly stamp on his toes. I wonder where we're going...

I'm off to do some laundry and boing my bin. Will come back later and catch up properly on how much more exciting the lives of all the May07ers are than mine...

MJB thanks hun xx Not sorted anything out today as we havent evenspoken to each other !! I made him a sandwich and all he did say was I ve just had cereal and pushed it away

Going to move me and Arlen into the spare room today, which is tiny and full of crap, if he lets me stay there for more than 2 nights then thats that cant be doing with him, feel bad for the kids, especially Arlen but I cant live like this

So for you Lupins..have you said to him that you NEED to talk to him?I dont mind coming to watch the kids for an afternoon if you need some space with him-dunno how theyd be with a stranger, but am willing to give it a go..its imperative he see what he is about to give up on I think..SOH made some very wise comments I think-though I would still be mad as hell!

I have the house to self as well Mrs JB..parents have gone, (and to sound incredibly ungrateful as they have been a big help with DD, its not a moment too soon, as after my Mothers antics yesterday it was just an argument about to happen)
DH has been in the library revising all day and he has just come home, put DD in the back pack and taken her out for a hike so I can go back to bed for a bit-having sodding awful BH today as well as feeling like have been kicked in the crotch with the SPD..

To be fair to DD today she has been very easy to look after as she has an awful cold, so we have pretty much just been on the couch watching Badminton horse trials,(I used to ride alot and DD likes the Geegees) except for a short trip to Tescos for food that doesnt require a conventional oven..

Texted TYG BTW and she is fine-busy doing some decorating...

We have sacked our original estate agent and got a different one this morn-they hadnt even bothered to tell our original, (albeit suspicious) buyers that we are getting the structural survey done on Wednesday and a whole host of other things which suggest they are totally inept..that said we had one viewing last night and we have two tomorrow so you never know I guess..not holding out too much hope though-house we were buying and shelled out on the survey for has gone back on market

v.quiet on here today though-wonder if any bambinos are busy arriving somewhere..

Hey everyone.

I'm here. It's a quiet day, but I woke up tired and am going to try to sleep as much as possible.

Lupins I hope you can get everything worked out.

Where are all these May babies?!

Just been shopping with my mum, well for as long as I could bear it. Came home and she gave me a pedicure which was lovely. Then back to my house to be faced with a mountain of dishes as dh is a lazy, bone idle, selfish pig at times.

One wobble today when a teenager walked past me and commented to her friend, 'her bump is huge'. Cow. It is huge though, to be fair.

I bought some gorgeous clothes for LO yesterday and took them round to show my mum, and my dad started crying when I took them out the bag. God help us when his granddaughter is born, we'll all bloody sail away.

Lupins - give him a good kick. Men are such knobs at times.

lupins - sorry i meant to type older not old. grovel grovel grovel

Oh Scoot, I hope the baby arrives soon after a very quick and easy labour, the house sells itself, you have a very easy purchase yourselves and er... you come in to some money. House buying and selling is in the list of top three most stressful life events, as is having a baby so you're doing both at once. I have no children, have given up on buying a house for now, am only cooking one little baby and there are days when I think I'm just going to sit at home and chew the desk. You're doing fantastically. I hear you on the braxton hicks. Had some really sore ones today, wish they were proper contractions.

Pinkjenny, do people think pregnant women are deaf? That we can't hear their enormous comments? Have to say I bumped into an old male colleague today who I haven't seen whilst pregnant and he said "oh my God, you look.... fantastic". I was over the moon, he kept saying how much pregnancy suited me. His dp is pregnant with their first and he's such a lovely man and can't wait to be a Dad himself. Your Dad sounds lovley btw.

Problem of queuing for tickets solved. A very nice friend who lives in Cambridge has bought me, DH and Mathilda tickets already (as a Cambs resident he can buy tickets a day early). It's a huge weight off my mind.

Now, I know the woman who told me the other day that I could break my own waters with a knitting needle was as mad as a box of frogs, but I need to do something. Plunger, quick dip in the river, what's going to make this baby come out?

SOH, I'm going to try the do nothing tactic with this one to get it out. Well until they'll Induce me anyway. I tried EVERYTHING with Harrison, Nothing worked. I tried everything except the castor oil with Maddie and guesse what? nothing worked either. SO I have to say for me, I'm a little sceptical on self induction techniques. I've resigned myself to it will come when it's ready. Actually I think the self induction may work if they are ready and mine obviously liked to be cooked for as long as possible. Well done variety chez MrsJB.

MrsJB I wholeheartedly agree. I think babies come when they're ready and occasionally it coincides with your induction techniques. I'm just being a miserable old grump and first babies tend to go overdue. I know all this, I'm resigned to it but I'm having a bit of a whinge nonetheless. Was reading an American site the other day which recommended Castor oil and went on to explain that you should be careful that you get Castor oil and not a thing called Castrol oil. That made my day, pictured lots of women in their local garage glugging the engine oil.

I've just woken up after my 2.5 hour nap and ds is in his room saying "hellooo". The sad thing is that I just don't have the energy to go in, and I haven't eaten properly yet today.

at the large bellied ladies with black lips on the garage forecourts.

I had my heart set on the fact that "First" babies were late, so was very excited from about 37 weeks with Maddie. LOL wonder this time if I've become a little wiser. However hopeful still.
Interestingly though, both H&M were 10/11 days late but both of them were only 7.5lb ers ish, so I really think mine need the growing time. If they were late and big then I'd be peed, Am I making any sense??

You know what the saddest part is, there are people that are actually dumb enough to drink castrol oil. I hate dumb people.

Well my Kraft Mac n Cheese is boiling. DS is still saying helloo in his crib waiting, but I figure he's fine until he stops screaming. He woke up a lot last night anyway so quiet time is really for his own good.

I bought my red raspberry leaf tea last night and discovered that the lady that works the counter at the health food store is a doula. Not that I would use a doula, but it was nice that someone asked me questions about my pregnancy that pertained to how I was feeling, how my health was, what type of care I was getting. Most people just say, "look at your big belly". Most women I know have had a baby in the past 2 years and when they ask about how I'm feeling and I say "oh, it's getting harder to get out of the bed" they say "Ohh I remember that, and then begin to tell me about their own experiences".
The only person who listens to me is my mom, but she isn't really any help because she can't stand talk about cervical mucus or stuff like that. I don't understand why.

Sorry to go on, but I just woke up and no one has called today, not even telemarketers so it's wayy too quiet at MKG's house.

MKG, I too have spent a couple of hours asleep this afternoon- very late night last night and early morning meant that I couldn't get through the day without it. Still need an early night as well I think.

MrsJB, my friend's three were all 9 days overdue to the day and all three weighed about 7.5lb. That's just how long it takes her to make a baby. It's not overdue really is it? I suppose that's the mistake, we hold on to the 40wks thing in desperation when anything up to 42 weeks is completely normal. Here in Norfolk they like to induce you at 40+10 but my very nice community midwife said that she wouldn't even dream of inducing me if the baby was fine and I was fine. She's very earth mothery and what will be will be in her approach, which I am eternally grateful for. I just cannot imagine another 3 weeks of this, the pressure/crotch zingers are absolutely phenomenal. How can she stay in there?

Hi all,

just popping in to give you all a virtual boost. Not long now and you'll be over on the postnatal thread.

Havent had time to catch up on the thread, so hope you are all well. Only got home from hospital yesterday so will spend some time next week catching up.

Love dejags
xx (ps. pics of Carys are on my profile now).

Fantastic news that you're home dejags and you do have an adorable family.

I know what you mean about the crotch zingers, well they've progressed to a bloomin hot poker I think. I was just trying to pour the kettle and had to put it down because of them. I was reading about it this morning in one of my books. It said that it's the baby practising (sp) the rooting reflex, apparently they swallow at the same time as if they are finding food and feeding.
Here, baby, come, come and Mummy can give you the real thing.
It's crazy about the 40 week thing, I should know better as it's 41 weeks here before they class you as term. Still only totals 42 weeks though as they'll talk induction in that last week.
It's lovely that you have a supportive midwife and is happy to see how things go for you. Mine is too to be honest it's me that want's the induction. I see her on Monday when they'll decide if I can arrange induction. Going to hold off until after the 17th though as I have too much on. It's my Birthday on the 14th and my sister is coming for a week 9th-16th so after that will be fine.

Beautiful pictures djags. Glad you are home and all went well. xxx

dejags, those are some very beautiful children! Thanks for putting those up, and hope all is going smoothly at home!

dejags gorgeous pics, what a beautiful family

Well i spent 3hrs sorting spare room, dp came home after being in bed half the day and on his bike the other half, he wen shower obviously saw room, didnt say a wor to me, spent 10mins with willow then left without a word, dont know what to think

Really lovely pics Dejags-Carys is perfect...

In bed now watchingDevil wears Prada-DH revising downstairs..feel totally exhausted today-think coz of the BH and what have you which havent really let up at all today..

DD fast asleep though and hoping she stays like that-gonna try to get up early and take her to the car boot sale tomorrow-want to get her an etch a sketch, and my friend got one last week for 10p!Of course there wont be one tomorrow but I do like a good car boot!
Am thinking of applying for a job I saw in our estate agents-showing people round houses on Saturdays-dont really need the money but every little helps and DH can mind the DD's-its more that Im dead nosey and I like nebbing at other peoples houses-plus it would keep me in touch with the real non baby world a bit...either that or our local garden centre which is fabulous-and if you work there you get 40% off!

Wish my Mum was a sort of pedicure type Mum sometimes Pink...she just isnt into all that at all, so god knows where I get it from...

Well done on the tickets SOH-something to look forward to..I have V fest and arctic Monkeys concert-cant wait!

Where has he gone?He didnt say?

And has anything been said since last night?

Hi scoot, no we havent spoken to each other, he just waved at willow from the car and was gone didnt say anything - i heard him saying to his online buddies he was going for shower and food - he went for shower and then left, but he has no money for food and has been gone hours

Oh Lupins I feel so bad for you. I hope you can get everything worked out.

Thanks just feeling a bit daunted by the situation - I will be strong tho