Due October 2007 ~growing little piggy bumps

[J20BABY]

well needed to start new thread, sorry if title is rubish (refers to the chinese new year) if people aren't keen, we can do another one!

well i went to boots, but they didn't have any, apparantly the store wasn't big enough, so went to McDonalds instead!

going to try and order from the website, only want a little starter pack to have a nosy, as i only intend to use them when i'm at home not out and about.

honeyapple, will let you know what type they are and good luck with maureen

glad to here all is well pheebe

buffy, i was going to go to pramland, but i saw the u detour in the local classified ads and had a look at that, then went to a little shop and looked at a silver cross something, not sure what, it had 3 wheels but no car seat, then i started getting all confused and gave up! i rang mothercare to see if they do a base for the seat that you leave in the car for the u detour, and they don't so i went back to the womans to make sure the car seat fit in my car, and just decided i needed it, but i think i'm going to get a different car seat, i get ever so confused with the different types of everything!

oh, and i can't stand the Bugaboo, its horrible looking.

Hi I have to admit that the modern travel systems simple dont have the wow factor that the older makes have. I saw a 1968 coachbuilt Silvercross the other day and my heart melted!and when I lived in London and walked almost everywhere it would have been perfect, but now,for us, practicality is essential; we live in the wilds of Lancashire, there isnt a flat road for miles, everything feels like it is on a 1:10 hill! Walking to the shops and back takes at least an hour. And I've got a big dog that needs loads of off lead excersise; so a modern lightweight system like a bugaboo or an icandy that folds easily into the car and can manage rough terrain is going to be essential, with the added plus they are very adapatble for different size pram pushers...Nick and I are tallish (5'8 & 5'11)but our mothers are both only just 5ft!...so its practicality over aesthetics for me

Apologies for cross-posting...

I have had a very scary 36 hours. As I was peeling myself out of bed yesterday to go and have my waxing done early (dh plays cricket on a saturday afternoon), I went to the loo, and when I wiped, there was fresh, red blood absolutely everywhere. I'm afraid to say I completely freaked out. dh had gone swimming with ds, so I phoned to leave a message on his phone for him to come home quickly, then phoned the hospital.
The staff were very reassuring, but told me to make my way to the assessment unit as soon as I could. We got there about 930. The assessment unit isn't just for women having bleeds and scary stuff - it's also where you go in to see if you're enough in labour to go up to the delivery suite, so around me I had 3 ladies - all in the early stages of labour ... it was so cruel! Midwife came eventually (felt like hours - it was probably only 15 minutes or so), and did a check of baby - the relief I felt when they heard the heartbeat was immense.
I then had a wait until 1pm (!) until one of the doctors was free to come down to the assessment unit to see me (they had 15 deliveries on the unit in 12 hours, I found out subsequently!).
She gave me an internal - but the bleeding had come from inside my uterus - it wasn't a straightforward cervical bleed. So, I was admitted for observation.
Stayed in hospital overnight, came home about midday. They still don't know what caused me to bleed so heavily, but have 2 major theories:
1 - the placenta is lying over my cervix, and finally got fed up with all the bizarre contractions (not so likely as far as I'm concerned - the scan I had last Tuesday seemed as though it was up away from cervix)
2 - as the placenta is at the front of my uterus, it had had some sort of trauma (like one of the kids at school bumping into me), and had come away a bit / torn ... this seems more likely - but a whole lot more scary!

I've got to go back for a scan on Wednesday to check if there are any clots on the placenta - and to check that all is fine.
After that, I may have to go to my gp and ask to be signed off work until July - I know I was crashed into on Friday by a child - not maliciously, rather accidentally - and I just don't want to take the risk of losing this one from something preventable.

Am now very very tired - and a bit down - didn't sleep too well last night - and have got some serious thinking to do.

Oh well, I thought at 22 weeks, I'd left the knicker-checking more or less behind - there's me, back to it with a vengeance!

god ejt, poor you! don't really know what to say apart from get plenty of rest and i hope everything is ok x

thanks j20 - I feel like such a fraud!

why?!

its certainly not you're fault and i bet you where terrified, i would have been, i hope your being well looked after, try not to worry too much, and any more problems get yourself straight to a&e x

ejt why do you feel like such a fraud? You have absolutely no reason to. I can't imagine how scary it must have been for you. Try and get lots of rest and look after yourself

god ejt,hope you are ok.i can sympathise with you,when i was having dd3 (last pregnancy) i ahd the same happen.just make sure you get plenty of rest.and just be extra careful around smaller children that could knock into you.when i was having my 2nd baby,ds1 threw a big little tikes plastic racing car at me.it was really heavy and i was worried sick,went to teh hospital after i started contracting,i was only 24 weeks.the doctor was laughing saying id had a minor car accident.i didnt think he funny at all and burst into tears!but after taht with every pregnancy ive been extra cautitious about my bump.even going through crowds of people,i put my arms around my bump!!

but please make sure you get rest,adn only go back to work when ou feel your ready,i know if its july you wont have long until you start your maternity leave!

j20,ive bought a mamas and papas primo viaggio carseat.i gto myself all flustered looking at the different ones!and just said "i'll have that one" mainly because we had one for dd so knew it would fit in our car!!

floria,have you looked at teh icoo platon?its great for differnt heights and also faces both ways.dh is 6ft 2" so he likes prams he doesnt ahve to bend over to push.im 5ft 6" so the adjustable handle height was great for us.

i fell in love with silvercross balmoral,and wanted one last time i was pg,but dh said no.this time im getting one!we live in rural wales so it will be good for walks in the village or if we come to criccieth (by then we will have moved!yay!!!)dh ahs picked his new car,and its a long wheel base one,so the silvercross will fit in the back (not that dh will be happy about lugging it around!!)

OMG Ejt!!! How utterly terrifing! I'm so so sorry, you are actually suffering in reality the nightmare I get every night!! For petes sake please dont feel guilty/a fraud or any other such thing...please get flat on your back and REST.....much better to play it safe and rest more than you perhaps need than risk yourself and lo trying to pretend everything is ok...a week or two on your back certainly cant do any harm. So Please just wrap yourself up in cotton wool and take care of the 2 of you!

Buffy .thanks for the info on the i'coo it certainly looks interesting and an incredibly reasonable price too!...DH is keen on the Brittax Trekker 3 wheel meribel because it comes with raincover and cosy tot car seat for only £99.97!!!![sceptical]Having said that he looked at the i'coo site when I was on and saw the one with the ipod facility for £300 and went into raptures!! At the moment I quite fancy the Silver Cross 3D system (£280 + £60 acessories +£80 car seat)or their Linear Sleepover (£395 + £80 car seat)(I like the idea of not needing to cart a travel cot around when we go visiting friends for weekends) but I do envy you your Balmoral..Mum had one for me but gave it away when I was 5, only to finally fall pregnant again with my brother the following year! I've narrowed my "must be" list down to; both front and rear facing, lightweight, easy to fold and adjustable handle bars...I can always resort to a carrier/sling/papoose type thing for walking the dog if the pram isnt up to rough terrain.But I suppose we wont really know what we want until we go round the shops and see the quality for ourselves..and Dh is reluctant to do that until we are another 8-10 weeks on for fear of something going wrong....oh well I can keep on internet shopping for now

Thanks girls for your kindness (got all teary again!)

Bizarrely, the reason I feel like such a fraud is that I can't believe I may have to get signed off from work again - the staffroom gossips will have a bloody field day! Stupid, I know, but I think I worry too much about what people think of me. I'm also dreading having to speak to dephead about it ... I've got a few days to work myself up over that one!

buffy - Even though it was quite a witty comment from the doc about your 'minor car accident' - I bet it was the last thing you wanted to hear!!

Right - sun is shining, going to plant a few veggies out before the heavens open (and yes, I'm being careful, before you all start shouting at me!) dh is going to bodge the holes for the leeks ...

Buffy I am very of your Silver Cross Balmoral it looks fab, I would love a proper pram like that but I don't think its really practical for me as I would be putting it in the car a lot! We went to have a quick look today and were looking at the Quinny I am not that fussed on it but the guy in the shop was doing a hard sell on it, mind you when I tried to fold it my arms weren't long enough to reach the buttons!!! I am not exactly short I am 5"6 so I don't know how others manage. I am still thinking about a carry cot and wheels either a Baby Style or a Mamas and Papas or a Mamas and Papas pramette, any thoughts on these are very welcome

Ejt!!!! Will you please do as you are told!!!as Nezi says, the veg can wait or let your Dh do it!!!! Stop worrying about what other people think, just consider your lo and what is best ofr him/her...at more than half way it is too precious to risk. Get on your back and get a good book but dont DO another single thing!!!

Nezi at 5'11" you will definately need adjustable handles or you will give yourself a bad back!!! at 5' 8" I have trouble pushing my 5' 2" s-i-ls buggy for any length of time. Best do a lot of window shopping first I think!
I know how you feel about buying anything now ...if we had bought anything for Robyn, coming home to whatever it was without her would have made things even worse...in fact the week before I lost her we looked at a really nice house (we had just sold ours)and had been planning what we would do with it...on second viewing, after losing her, I found myself unable to enter the room we had intended as her nursery...needless to say we didnt put in an offer and found another (which I now think is even better)...Like you, we are not buying anything either until after 30 wks, and then only the absolute essentials..car seat,(so we can get home) basic layette, nappies....(we actually already have a crib, my father made it for my dolls when I was 7 and it is absolutely perfect for a new born, my Mum is going to get it out of her loft to clean it, sort out a breathable mattress and bedding etc and keep it until I need it) and we are getting absolutely nothing else!...everything else can be bought by us (or for us, by doting relations!) after the event and the nursey can definately wait because I expect our LO will be in our room for the first 6 months anyway!

hi everyone,

ejt - i hope your ok! i know your going to have done your veg's, but now you need to rest!

ft - i understand how you feel about buying things, at least after the event you'll be able to put baby in the prams to test drive them

well, i was in a bit of a state last night, i went out for a couple of hours, and finally decided to text a friend that i met through the sperm donor and let her know i'm pg, (i couldn't tell anyone before i got moved, as he had made threats to burn my house down if i told anyone that knew him) anyway, she was thrilled for me, but said she'd seen him a few weeks ago, with a woman and her 2 dc's, playing happy families, i got really upset, and text him that i hope he's happy and how can he do that when he's denying all knowledge of my baby, needless to say, i got a torrent of abuse and threats back, then my friend got drunk and started being a bit insensitive, so i got even more upset, and ended up being stuck in town, on my own, crying my eyes out, trying to get a taxi, which was more or less inpossible.

anyway i finally managed to flag a black cab down, but felt awful today, i can't understand how my ex can be so cruel, even if he hates me, how can he ignore his child?

then, this afternoon, i was getting terrible stomach pains, i don't know if it was trapped wind or bh, but i couldn't move for about half an hour, it wore off though so i don't think it was anything to worry about, just feel so low at the moment.

sorry for the rant, feeling sorry for myself, i hope everyone is ok, sorry not to mention everyone

j20 - come here and have a big hug!

everybody else - I did plant my veggies - runner beans, leeks, courgettes, marrows and sweetcorn now in - BUT I did let dh do most of the digging - I more directed, if you get me!

Have done very little else today - ds isn't here and I miss him - he's with the PILs - he'll be back tomorrow, and I dare say he'll spend the rest of the week on the naughty step!

May be offline for a couple of days - dh is sorting out my computer as it's getting a bit old and creaky - he's doing all sorts of things to the hard disc to get it to stop hanging up at inopportune moments!

So, don't fret ...

love to all - all this talk o prams is making me very jealous - we've still got the one we bought for ds - and I don't like it - unfortunately, the car seat that came with it fits our car, and dh won't hear of us buying a new pram if that one is fine! for all those who are buying new prams!

Thanks, i'll be ok, it just got to me.........'i'll survive'....

i'm having an early night tonight, got to take my cat to vet tomorrow to be speyed, so got to be up early, hope you all sleep well

Hello everyone; hope you don't mind me crashing in here. I'm due in Oct (18+3) with second baby (have DS who is 25months, altho this is my third pregnancy). I was just hoping someone could help with a query. I started feeling little movements last week, mostly when I ws lying in bed, but haven't felt anything for a day now. Do you think this is because it is early days and baby's gone quiet? I know my DS did that a lot so I'm not unduly worried (yet!) but just wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I'm eating jam and drinking tea as I write to see if that pushes them into action! Thanks

hi nellie, yes my bump sometimes goes quiet for a day or 2 and i'm nearly 22 wks, i shouldn't worry too much, i think it depends on the position that its laid in, but obviously if your worried, ring your mw, oh and welcome

i've got a little question for you all too, anyone experiencing intensly itchy nipples? mine are driving me crazy!

Thanks J20 - that's reassuring. I had itchy nipples first time round - it drives you insane doesn't it? I found the lansinoh cream helped a bit, also putting really cold faces cloths on them - the chilling seems to kill the itch for a while but be prepared for sharp intake of breath!!

j20 sorry to hear about your ex...definately sounds like the sort you are better off without. My s-i-l finally found out about her husbands philandering (it had been going on for for 3 yrs!) 5 weeks after their 2nd son was born (2nd pregnancy had been at his instigation..apparently during a "break up" with his bit on the side)she forgave as he said it was all over and he stayed another year but when she found out he was was still seeing the other woman she told him to leave. The kids are better behaved without his lazy good for nothing influence, and she is coming out of the shell that she didnt even realise she had gone into. Her life 12 months on is infinately better without him, she actually has a social life now instead of working,cooking and cleaning up after him and the kids and then waiting for him to come home.
He cheated on his mistress on holiday and got turfed out, then had 2 brief affairs with women who saw him for what he was and is now shacked up with a woman with kids the same age as his own but she has him help cook, clean and look after them and she watches him lke a hawk and follows him wherever he goes!!!No more "I need an hour or two in the pub after work to wind down" anymorefor him!! he he he!!!
I think you are right to think of your ex as just a sperm donor he doesnt sound like the sort of Dad you would want to influence your childs development.
Hang tough as the yanks say...you'll get over the hurt sooner than you think...s-i-l was with her ex from age 16-35! married for 12 of those 19 yrs and just one year after he left is truly over him and finally becoming the woman she always should have been!!

Welcome NellieLoula
I sometimes have to lie very still and concentrate to feel anything and I'm 21 wks now and lo isnt exactly small for dates according to my scans ...though I did have my first actual "kick" on Saturday so I shouldnt worry! But I still frequently resort to my doppler to check it is still there (cant get my "fix" at the moment ...ran out of echo gel..so am waiting for the post to bring a fresh supply)
On the itching issue. I don thave itchy nips but I do have itchy everywhere else!! I believe it is due to the hormones but my belly and especially my back are driving me mental..anyone would think I was infested!!!