May Mummies, w/c 16th April 07 Getting closer, not close enough for some.

[Mrsjaffabiffa]

Morning all...........

Thought after 300 odd messages it was time to go back to our weekly ones. Hope you are all well.

dc's back to school for you and holidays just started for me today. Have ds home for 2 weeks now.

Still sunny? Tis here!

Morning everyone, seems like we are all feeling pretty uncomfortable now. I have been into town this morning just for a potter around really and a few bits I needed. I can't believe how exhausted I feel - town really only consists of one street of shops and I didn't go in that many!I have developed a really bad stitch-type pain in one side which sems to be permanently there, I don't know what it is but it really hurts and it's got me slightly worried to be honest. My tummy feels incredibly tight and I feel very nervous of the birth all of a sudden!
I feel really guilty because mil and fil are busy working away in our garden at the moment. It's really quite hot but they are doing quite manual work while I just sit here and do nothing!

Pebblemum - we can subscribe to the "wrong-way round baby" club. Love your choice of names btw.

Am totally you with you SOH on the tiredness front. The floor beneath my desk is looking mighty attractive today .

Only 3 days left at work and 36 days until EDD.

Sigh...

I really feel for all of you who are shattered, achey and feeling generally crappy. I remember feeling like that when pg with ds. I couldnt get comfy and he always seemed to wake up when i was falling asleep and then proceed to batter the hell out of my insides. I was 6 days late with him and they seemed like the longest days ever.

On a positive note.... just think that before too long you will be able to do the following:

1. sleep in a comfy position either on your front or back
2. enjoy the summer sun
3. eat all the foods they say to avoid
4. drink what ever drink you fancy
5. wear clothes that you actually want to wear rather than have to wear coz nothing else fits
6. see your feet
7. most important....... HOLD YOUR LITTLE BUNDLE OF JOY

AM - your list made me feel like crying.

I am so aware of moaning all the time and despite being determined not to wish away my last pregnancy, I just can't help myself.

Forgot to say that MW came to weigh Ella this morning. She has gained 2oz in 2 days which is bang on target. She now weighs 5lbs 7oz.

Have just arranged an appt to register her birth. They are fully booked until w/c 30th April! So i decided to book it for Thursday 3rd May which should have been her due date.

Oh no, dejags i didnt mean to make you cry......... sorry

Don't worry AM - it doesn't take much at the moment.

Great that Ella is putting on weight so well. I can't wait to hold my little bundle - despite being miserable I feel truly excited to see her and cuddle her and smell her

Pod is 3/5ths engaged, which apparently means he might come early.

I really don't want him to turn up while DH is in the middle of the north sea. That would be truely pants.

Can relate to the exhaustion. Slept really badly last night and then nearly fainted in the antinatal appointment - think it was all the prodding the midwife did.

Afternoon Lovely's

AM great news on Ella. Glad she is happy and putting on weight, I want mine!

SOH and dejags, poor tired little you two. Not long left until your mat leave starts though so hang on in there

Pebble sorry you didn't have a great nights sleep, nor did I! The minute I got comfy I needed to get up and pee and then it took forever to get comfy and back to sleep again. Have also woken up with a bad back!

Abby, I walked to Sainsbury's to get some fruit and cucumber last night and was nearly dead before even reaching the doors. I was walking nice and slow and taking it easy and still felt like I'd just run the London marathon. The stich in my sides and under my bump was unreal, I think the people in the supermarket thought I was going into labour lol!

Scoot - tut tut tut. That is far too late for you to be working hun, be good to yourself and take it easy. Not long left for you till mat leave now either though is it? Please take it easy though, don't go working yourself too hard.

Mrsjb - oh I hate those kind of dreams. My parents were getting quite annoyed with me at one point cause of the dreams I was getting a while ago. Would ring them at silly O'Clock in the morning to check they were all ok

Juicy - baby is to stay put and not be early. This might be a bit blonde of me but how do they know when your babies engaged? What do they do to find out, just have a feel about?

Nice and sunny here today, sat very happily munching away on my cucumber (new craving)

Yes LWatkins, it's a damn good rummage around to see how much of the baby's head is still palpable above your pubic bone. LO was 3/5ths engaged 2 weeks ago and when checked over in London her head was 'barely there, disappeared right down the birth canal'. Nice! She's still in there though and apparently it can take weeks after engagement for actual labour. Lovely. The pressure is tremendous! I get incredible stitches in my sides atm, I feel heavy for the first time in the pregnancy.

DH seems to think I look most attractive, his hopeful breathing in my ear of a morning is quite sweet. Ill-advised, but sweet.

Afternoon

Well the Health visitor has just left. On the phone she had said she would only be here for about 10mins as this was my third baby and i know it all by now, in the end she was here for a good 45mins, only managed to get ds2 to pre-school on time. I think the only thing she didnt ask me was what colour knickers i have on lol. It did seem a bit condesending (?) when she started on about birth control and how i can still get pregnant even if im breast feeding, she went on and on about the pill and using condoms and how most peeople wait 3wks but some cant so if we want it sooner we have to be prepared blah blah, Im almost 29 ffs if i dont know about birth control by now then there is something seriously wrong She also asked if i abuse drugs, somehow i cant see anyone admitting to that anyway Oh well i dont have to see her again until after the birth, something to look forward to. (in case you havent guessed im not too keen on HVs)

Dejags we are due around the same time, we can moan about our LO's being awkward together!!

I think im due about the same as you and dejags too Pebble-24th?Your neighbours sound so nice!

Off to midwife now-she will no doubt be as unhelpful as ever-she answers all of my questions by saying, 'im not sure', very reassuring I dont think...

2 more days left at work but they will be loooong as have ALOT to do..going to enjoy my afternoon off after the midwife though in preperation for the last 2 day slog!

There is no end to your DH's talents Mrs JB-5 Bar gate from a palate?Blimey!

chins up ladies not long now and then when we are all on the postnatal thread half dead due to being up for 12 consecutive nights with a newborn we will all long to be back pg again!(or not!)

Ella is doing so well by the sounds!Maybe that cardie wont fit her if shes 5 pounds already-will check before I send April...

Off to roast in the car now to drive home..Sun has jsut helpfully come out to ensure journey will be as hot and uncomfy as poss!What a grinch I am becoming!

wow. HV sounds interesting to say the least!? is this usual? do they come and visit normally before the birth!?

hi scootermum!
still think would be nice to meet up once im not working.(last day 4th may) lets arrange nearer the time! its getting harder and harder this commuting and working lark i have to say. im so slow at walking these days. as for running to catch the train (which v briefly crossed my mind this morning!)....i think not!! No point in moaning about getting up at 5.30am every day as will be getting far less sleep once baby arrives so maybe its good practice!? had antenatal class last night too 8pm-10pm so a very long day and only 6 hr sleep. roll on early night tonight.

My midwife is poorly. No appointments with other midwives so haven't been seen since 32 weeks and won't be seen until 38 weeks. Whaddya reckon? I feel fine, should I be pushing for an appointment?

Do you have to have contact with HVs? Only time I've ever met them (when friends have had visits) it has been a case of weighing, measuring, spouting some utter twaddle, tutting and turning up two hours late. Is it worth it?

May the 4th be with you.

Mmmmm, bacon and baked bean sandwich - YUM!

Oh but I hate being poked and prodded - it flippin hurts. They push down so much, the m/w in scotland is this big, scary, burley type. When she was feeling my tummy I thought her fists were gonna go through me. Felt very bruised afterwards. Can't I just decide if I'm engaged or not - save on all the horrible pushing on my little tum and bubs?!! Suppose it's for the best really........grumble grumble.

SOH - your DH sounds very sweet!

Pebble sorry but am laughing at the fact your HV was explaining about birth control to a 29 yr old with, this is your 3rd baby is that right? HA HA HA. I swear ANY man ever comes near me again and I'll kill em! To hell with pregnancy, don't know how poeple do it 2 3 4 5 6 times etc! First and last for me!

Scoot your due the same day as me! Hope m/w goes ok and enjoy your free afternoon

SOH - you make me chuckle
May 4th - my Birthday!!! I'll be 20!

Hi Ladies, I haven't a prayer of catching up with the last 6/7 weeks events so will put myself at the back of the class and lurk for a few days whilst I get to grips with what has been happening in the world outside the hospital.

Just to update you I have been discharged from hospital and feel a lot better physically. Mentally think am just about holding it together but there are some serious cracks. I know it is hard for other people and they don't know what to say but some people are hardly acknowledging Benjamin was here. I have lots of cards saying congratulations on your new baby and I had two babies and people seem to want to brush him under the carpet IYSWIM.

Ben is being collected by the funeral director tomorrw so I will go and get him dressed on Thursday and his funeral is next Wednesday.

George has been transferred to my local hospital. He is now 3lb 5.5oz and is still being tube fed with supplementary breastfeeds and cup feeds. After avoiding caffeine since 2004 due to being pregnant/breastfeeding George is now on caffeine to help stimulate his heart. They have said this is not unusual in preterm babies though as he has had a couple of decelerations.

I am at home instead if staying in hospital to try to get things back to normal for Annabel. She has handled things really well and is a bit clingy but overall she has been brilliant. I think it is important for her to get back to normal although disciplining her is awkward as she runs off to daddy so we are trying to present a united front so I do not seem like the bad guy. It is lovely to see how their relationship has strengthened in my absence though.

I have posted a picture of both boys on my profile page if anyone wants to have a little look. George is in a blue hat, Ben is on the right.

Cheers CM x

The idea of HVs is great to me. Here in the US babies are born and brand new parents are left to their own devices to figure everything out. At least someone comes to check on you (as annoying as they may be) When Mateo was born we put his carseat on the floor looked at him, looked at each other and said, "What do we do with him now?"

Finished cleaning the house yesterday, my back is terrible I will definitely be resting all day long.

I did make an oreo-cookie cheesecake yesterday, and I think I will eat that all day also.

39 more days until EDD!

Charleymouse,

Don't feel bad about people sending you congratulations cards. As insensitive as it is, I think it's an attempt to keep your spirits up.

I think you are being so strong.

Charleymouse both your wee boys are beautiful. It must be upsetting for you feeling as if people are forgetting about little Ben, I think it's just people's reactions to the grief and happiness of the situation. It can't be easy for you, and yet you seem like your doing brilliantly.
You might find your more comfy at home now, and with George being at your local hospital hopefully you can settle back into home life. Thinking of you

Oh Charley, how lovely to hear from you. What beautiful little boys and that blonde hair is incredible.

A friend of mine very sadly lost her baby shortly after his birth and she received hundreds of sympathy cards and only one 'Congratulations on the birth' card sent by me. I worried at the time that it was insensitive or she wouldn't understand that I was trying to acknowledge that she had carried and delivered a baby and that in itself was still tremendously deserving of celebration. The sadness came later.

You will always be a Mum of 3 (until/unless you have a 4th).

I'm going to have another look at your babies again. Beautiful they are.

DOH
I am allowed to be twice as stupid as I had two babies but that does not excuse me from saying a big congratultaions to Lupins on Arlens arrival and Aprilmeadow on Ellas arrival .
Hope you are all doing fine and getting to grips with your new arrivals.

I know what you mean about DCs Lupins, DD kisses George very gently but not quite gently enough for my liking. At SCBU the other day the nurse asked if DD wanted a cuddle and obviously she jumped at the chance me and DH were nervous wrecks but DD was so proud and held him really carefully. The nurse took her picture and then went and printed it out for her and she thinks it is wonderful just really scarey at the time. I've seen how she behaves with her dolls.

Anyway congratulations and well done on the safe arrival of your little ones.

CM

Charleymouse your boys are gorgeous. I understand how upsetting it must be that people seem to be ignoring the fact that you gave birth to twins and that Benjamin had been a part of your life for so long. Im sure they dont mean to be hurtful, they probably dont want to upset you and think that they are doing the right thing. As long as Benjamin remians are part of your family through your own memories then that is what is important {{big hugs}}

LWatkins I dont know if it is the same everywhere but here we get to meet the 'lovely' HV before the birth so she can discuss how they work and build up a support unit for you, they also give you your Baby health record book which has to go with you to every dr's appointment once the LO is here, right up until they are grown up (although i normally forget to take it once the kids are about 2) After the birth you normally get the midwife visiting for 10days to check on how things are going and to weigh the baby and then the HV takes over. I suppose they are helpful if you dont have any support or help from family and friends but I find them annoying. They have their own idea of how a baby should be raised and if you dont tend to follow it they seem to think you are in the wrong. They also seem to look down their nose at you if you dont breastfeed. I had problems feeding ds1, i was in constant pain and during one growth spurt he was feeding almost continually, i was in tears and in the end my mum told me to give him a bottle and it was so much better i started enjoying being a mum but when the HV found out she tried to make me feel guilty for giving in (my mum threw her out lol) Im sure not everyone finds them as annoying as i do and you may get a lovely one. I just dont like people trying to tell me how to look after my kids

Im sat here drinking a nice cold shandy with ice cubes but it seems to have sent the LO into a frenzy, im sure she is trying to kick her way out of my fanjo lol