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[lissielou]

hi, im due on the 1st of october with 2nd after 3mcs in the past 18m. anyone else?

yes ni can honestly say internal was not too bad, i was terrified and it was loads more comfortable than a smear

BTW, here is a link to the stats thread for anyone who has not yet found it... Have put it into chronological order again.

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Thanks for that info greedy, it is really helpful.

Beanie, sorry you are worried. you are going to have a rotten weekend so I agree with the others, push to have an early scan and set your mind at rest.

I have noticed that hairybabiesmum is missing, but also sneaks and ejt havent posted for over a week, I hope all is ok.

MrsMcJnr, hope all is going well. Hurry up and give us an update.

I wasnt getting too big around the middle but woke up this morning and look about 4 months gone! how does that happen overinght???

Totally agree about teleconferences Kezza reading your post, those are exactly the reasons why I?d consider a doula. Sorry you feel fat and spotty. True about Ejt, hope she?s ok, she used to post a lot. You?ll have to wait for an update ? scan?s tomorrow!!

I wasnt getting too big around the middle but woke up this morning and look about 4 months gone! how does that happen overinght???

Beanie ? never say never re stretching some more I hope you are feeling better today, sorry that you GP didn?t do much to reassure you.

Whoopse ? I?m too hot all the time too, very annoying as none of my colleagues seem to have any central heating at all that said, I?ve been really dizzy this afternoon, almost seeing double ? not great for reviewing documents!

Kittiwake ? hope the GP appointment put your mind at rest a bit. It is all very exciting and worrying all at once isn?t it. Thanks for the good wishes, I?ll let you know how it goes.

I remember you Fettle hope the 9 week mark passes without incident. Agree about the CM, it is rather plentiful! We should all synchrnose Keegels to make sure we are doing them!

Yawningmonster ? sorry you are feeling so sick hon, hope it passes soon and also hope the spotting doesn?t come to anything.

Hello Manitz dying to see what ?this? is but thought I shouln?t chance it at work!!

Hello Winnie ? hope you feel better soon.

Wow Mandler ? none of us saw that coming! Congratulations hon! I know what you mean about the timing, I am in a similar postion myself! Quite a predicament!

Mumpbump ? oh I am so delighted for you, my feelings at the moment are exactly how you were feeling, I hope I get good news tomorrow too, I can?t bear to think of the alternative. Those stats sound great ? hope you are feeling much better now! what did they think the spotting may have been? I?m worried about thehairybabysmum too ? hoping that she just hasn?t had a mo. Fingers crossed.

Greedy ? PMSL at you and your pelvic floor muscles ? do you talk in code? (sorry very rude!)

Hello Gemmamc ? hope all the tugging and stretching isn?t getting you down.

Hi all,

Sorry I haven't posted for a while - I was feeling absolutely sh$tty at the end of last week (not much better now), and just couldn't stay upright for long enough to post! Then on Sunday we went to Stackpole Quay for a few days - we stay in a National rRust cottage down there for a few days every February half-term - bit of a birthday treat for me, and it is my favourite place in the whole world - so peaceful, and breathtakingly beautiful - especially Barafundle Bay, which is a short walk from the cottages. Realy helps to calm the mind!

Anyway, I have had my booking appointment from the midwife - she was surprsingly nocholant about me having a hbac - until we discussed my mcs last year - and I told her about the haemorrhage (sp) I had after the medical management and D&C. She has quite rightly said, that although I can have a home birth if I want one, I'm unlikely to actually give birth at home, as with my history of severe bleeding, they wouldn't want to mess about ... I can see her point!

She's suggested that there may be an alternative - UHW has a midwife-led unit which is just downstairs from the consultant-led unit (and theatres etc) - so I could go there, and be easily transferable (is that a word?) if the caca hit the fan. That way, I could have as natural birth as poss, but still have the docs close if need be. She has also said that if I started in labour during the day, they could arrange for somebody to come to me at home to assess whether I needed to go to hospital there and then, or whether I could just stay home for a bit longer.

I've got to discuss all this with the doc at my scan appointment - I have seen the same consultant for all 4 pg, and he's a really sound bloke - who doesn't patronise - and who is a real proponent of vbac (which helps!)

Scan date came through this morning - 22nd March ...

Right, going back to collapse on the sofa - am feeling a tad sick!

love to all - hoping all's going well for everybody - sorry I've been so crap!

ejt

Hi

New to mumsnet and due very early in Oct. This is my 3rd pregnancy, although we only have one daugther who is 4years old and due to start school in sept.
Im in Stevenage in herts.

Lisa

Hello Lisa and welcome to the party!! You'll find a link to a stats thread on one of my posts earlier this afternoon if you want to put your details on there as well...

hey ejt, we've got the same scan date

MOrning everyone.

How are you all today?

I went to the surgery for my bloods today. Had to take DD with me as she was sick last night and not at school today because of that.

Ladies, I wanted to check in and tell you how things went this morning. It will also help me come to terms with what is or isn?t going on. Basically the scan showed a very small pregnancy sac in the right place in my womb by external scan and showed a yolk inside it on an internal scan. Therefore, it is a pregnancy but not of 7+5 or 8 weeks but of 5 ½ or 6 weeks. They have no way of knowing if it is alive or not at this stage. This apparently means that my dates are either wrong or that the embryo died at 5 ½ or 6 weeks. All I can do is go back for another scan a week on Wednesday and see if things have progressed or stayed the same and then I will have my answer.

I?m in a bit of a state. I have been trying to prepare myself for an outcome good or bad but deep down inside, I really thought everything would be ok and it was such an awful shock when it wasn?t what we?d hoped for. I just couldn?t control the tears at the hospital and I felt so weak. I also felt awful for DH. I asked him last night what he thought he?d see today. He started getting angry with me saying that I read too much and came on here too much and that I shouldn?t build myself up to see something I might not. I actually wanted to warn him how little he would see because I thought that even if all had been perfect, there would be less to see than he would have thought. Anyway, when we got in there and the scan started, I couldn?t see the screen but he could and he started excited laughing before she said anything. He thought that my womb was the baby and that the sac was the heart and when she started telling us that it was too small and things were not quite right, he started to cry. It broke my heart.

I have to say that both the sonographer and the midwife were lovely to us, they really didn?t want to say anymore than that we have a 50/50 chance and I guess I was probably pushing them quite hard to be more negative so that somehow I could face that more easily if that is the outcome.

I couldn?t bear to go to work today and got DH to call my divisional manager who is a close friend of ours, she was lovely about it of course. My thinking is that if I allow myself to be on here today, to talk to you all and see if anyone has had similar experiences either way I?ll be better prepared for what comes next but after that, I may well take a break from Mumsnet until the next scan as I am going to try really hard to not think about it, I really feel that is all I can do for self preservation at the moment.

Sitting here eating a box of chocolates ? no good for my body or my baby?s, if she?s still there, but seems to help the heart!

Thank you all for listening, I feel guilty for being so indulgent when others have been through so much more and so much worse but this baby has been the centre of our universe for the last 4 weeks and it will be so hard if we have to let go.

Hi MrsMc,

Sorry you did not hear what you wanted at the hospital today.

I will be praying that it has grown when you go next week and you just have the dates wrong.

I have no experience what what you are going through, but wanted to post a reply so you did not think you were being ignored.

Take care of yourself.

mrsmcjnr,really sorry to hear about your scan.((((((hugs)))))

i went to see gp today and asked why i havent been given an early scan as i had 2 mcs last year and dd3 was twins but one had died at 12 weeks.

gp said she doesnt see any reason for an early scan!i was really upset as i said to her it would ease my mind.she said that as i am now 7 weeks and things seem to be going ok,then there isnt a need for an early scan unless i start bleeding!i am gobsmacked and upset at her lack of care!

still not heard from my midwife,gp said i should hear from her shortly,but as she is retiring soon i might have to wait until the new has taken over!again im gobsmacked!i just feel that its a case of "go and get on with it".

i know its still early,but a little support wouldnt go a miss from them!

buffy hi there honey, god u must be feeling awfull, i called my hospital epu and asked them and they booked me in for a scan, i did not even go through my doctors, they called it a reassurance scan, i would call the early pregnancy unit and ask, if i was u ,, explain the losses, and the concerns u have,,, im sure they will be more sympathetic as they deal with it everyday

let me know how u get on if u call, xx

MrsMcJnr - hi there honey,, sorry to hear u did not get a direct answer today, this time last august i was in the same situation as u i was 100% on my dates and when i went for scan i should have been 7 weeks, but baby measured 5 weeks 3 days, i had started spotting and knew the worst,
i had to wait a week like u but in that time i mc, and had a scan to confirm it was a complete mc, a week later ,,

on the other hand, a friend of mine, had a scan and her baby was too small for dates, she had only had sex once with her partner that month, only once, so she was so sure of her dates.. but they was saying baby was 2 weeks to small,, anyway it turns out she ovulates just before her period, and has a gorgeous baby girl,, and because she ovulates so late or did in that cycle thats why baby was so small for dates

i know this week is going to be so so hard,,
i am thinking of u, and dp,,

you can look into other peoples situation, but cannot really compare, uinfortunately,, the answer is a week away, which i know is gonna be so hard for you,,,

sending a big hug xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Oh MrsMc I am so sorry to read your post. This is what happended with my 2nd mc, they saw a weak heartbeat at 8 weeks but dated it smaller, so I knew then something wasnt right. A week later I had another scan and my baby had died. I sobbed throughout my consultation with the specialist and felt really silly but I just couldnt hold it together. Dont feel bad about crying or writing what you feel, from the minute you see that blue line you start a relationship with your baby so of course you are rooting for it from the start.

If you have a 50/50 chance then I guess all you can do is hang in there and hope for the best (or think the worst and prepare yourself often works best for me)

Totally understand about self preservation, but if the worst happens make sure you have someone to talk to. You might feel very lonely because no one else undersands or wants to talk about it.

Take care, I have absolutely everything crossed for you.

Buffy - I would contact your EPU directly as b2b suggests.

MrsMcJnr - I am so sorry you have not got the result you wanted. I know how easy it is to be negative and how hard it is to be positive. I don't want to give you false hope, but yesterday, the sonographer told me I was a week less than I think I am and B2B makes a very good point about when you actually ovulate. Bear in mind that full terms is 37 weeks plus which suggests to me that they allow a 3 week margin of error to take into account the fact that different people ovulate at different times of their cycle.

Also, I think they can get a more accurate idea of dates at the 12 week scan and I remember being told with ds that the measurements can be 20% out anyway. So I think measuring an embryo is a very imprecise science in general. At least you have a yolk and that's a good start!!

I will be thinking of you over the weekend and, of course, next week... Be easy on yourself - you are going through a difficult and emotional time at a point when you are charged with pg hormones... I cried 10 times the other day over different nothingy things, so do not underestimate the ability of the pg hormones to put you in a complete state by themselves, without this added stress.

sorry i forgot to sat hello to everyone, else,,,

hope the rest of u guys are doing well,,,

i supposidly have a viral infection, and am feeling just crappy, plus i think i feel a bit crappy through early pregnancy,, i just want some sleep

is anyone else finding it hard to sleep ??????

Yup - forget third term insomnia - I have had first term insomnia for the last couple of weeks... Horrid!

Oh MrsMc {{{{hugs}}}}

I really don't know what to say. I hope the second scan gives you positive news. I really feel for you.

Just a quick one to say we will be without internet at home for about two weeks due to a mix-up with our change of ISP. I'll log in from time-to-time at work but it will be few and far between, I'm afraid.

I got my booking-in appointment through for 1 May, a couple of weeks after my first scan.

Hope everyone is coping with symptoms etc ok!

PS - MrsMcJnr - chocolate is very good for both pg women and their babies. There is a report which suggests that mothers who ate high cocoa chocolate every day of their pregnancies had happier babies!! So eat away with a clear conscience...

Winnie ? thank you

Hope you are ok Buffy ? I know what you mean about the support, I really feel like the GP and community midwife are hanging back to see if I make it and have been for the last 4 weeks. The midwife and sonographer at the EPU were lovely though. Maybe it is worth your while going and putting your mind at rest a bit (though it has had the opposite effect for me).

B2B ? I?m really sorry about your loss last year Beanie. Thank you for your thoughts for me. This sounds defeatist and I do still have hope but I can?t help but think if the baby is no longer alive and has been there for a week and a half or two weeks like that, would it actually MC itself or do I have to prepare myself for the possibility of having to go through procedures in 12 days if there hasn?t been a positive change. I like your friend?s story lots I was temping when we were TTC and I got my BFP on CD29, exactly 4 weeks ago (I have a 27 or 28 day cycle). DH and I put all our efforts into it between CD10 & 17 and I think I Ovd on CD17. After that, we had a dry spell until a couple of weeks ago. That makes me really doubt that my dates are wrong . As you say, I?ll know the answer a week on Weds. Hope you feel much better soon.

Thanks Kezza ? I?m sad to hear what you went through I really appreciate your support.

Mumpbump ? I think I have the opposite problem in a way, I am normally a really positive person and I really did think everything would be ok this morning, it really was a horrible shock. That is why I want to hear everyone?s stories to get my head into perspective. As you say, 3 weeks is a big margin for error isn?t it? Especially at the very early stages. As you say, the positives are that it is a pregnancy sac in the right place with a yolk and that is all I have at this moment. I know what you mean about the pregnancy hormones, I can normally be strong when I need to be but I keep falling to bits today.

Verso ? thank you and sorry to hear you?ll be incommunicado. Hope your scans go really well.

Hello to everyone else, sorry for being so self engrossed today. I?ll probably not be posting until after the next scan and I just want to wish you all the very, very best and I truly hope I get to come back and talk babies again with you all.

mrsmc

i am so sorry, hope it works out your dates are wrong. thinking of you x

MrsMcJnr- hi honey,, i started losing and miscarried 5 days later my body expelled the pregnancy itself and was scanned after and it was a complete mc , meaning i had no retaining products of conception, some people mc naturally some people have incomplete mc, where there need a d&c and other need a d&c because the body does not expell anything,, i think medically they try to let the body do it naturally, but obviously it cannot stay put... so sometimes a d and c is needed
sorry so horrible to put it into words sounds just awfull,,,

i really am hoping for u ,,,,, xxxxxxxxxxx
i know how long this time will be for u , xx

HI

Just wanted to send hugs. Im not sure why you had the scan, cant seem to work messages right, (baby brain), but just wanted to give some hope. I bleed for first 6 months with my daughter (who is now 4years old), and even had part of my cervix removed (story for another time,) when I was 7 weeks pregnant. Im bleeding again on and off with this pregnancy, but have developed errostions (sp?) which can cause spotting.
I hope you are ok, and know docs dont seem very nice and caring at times like this. Just make sure you talk about it with caring friends instead

Hugs to you all

Lisa

Hello all, sorry to worry you by not updating sooner, i only have dial up at home so only tend to use mumsnt at work!! Hope my boss doesnt see this!

I had the scan (scan was booked to look at a suspected fibroid not related to pregnancy), and thankfully saw a tiny bean with a tiny flickering heartbeat, was such a relief after last time. Unfortunately they wouldnt let DH in nor did the scan machine print photos as was in the gynae not obstetrics dept so he hasn't seen anything despite taking the day off.

Really really sorry to hear that you didnt have a definite positive from your scan MrsMcJ...i know exactly how you feel as this is v similar to what happened to me in Nov, although they did think one of my sacs looked collapsed already.

Ill be keeping everything crossed for you til next week and just hope its a matterof a small piglet or your dates are slightly out. Sounds like this is feasible from the other posts. Will be thinking of you over the weekend and keep posting, you will get lots of support from mumsnet x

It breaks my heart to write this but yesterday I had a miscarriage. It was all very sudden and was admitted to hospital last night. I am shocked, gutted and so so sad.

Good luck and good wishes to all you and your bumps.

Thank you for being my friends these last few weeks.

Lots of love,
Curly. x