December 2013 - creeping closer but no more hospital stays please god!

[LadyMedea]

We are a chatty lot!

[MrsShrubs]

Sorry to hear about your grandad itsliz and what a lovely way to keep him close to you by using his name.

Little mans got the hicuups again, seems to get them every day about twice a day. At least I get a reminder for a good 15 mins straight that he's in there I guess!

[clare8allthepies]

Ooh, how exciting frouby, have you chosen what you want to buy yet or not?

Still sitting on my arse watching TV, will get up to start doing stuff soon, promise!

[LadyMedea]

Can I join you on the sofa for a duvet day? I was up most of the night with intractable heartburn, not touched by ranitidine or gaviscon. I've booked into the doctors on Monday to get my hands on some omeprazole... I'll have no oesophagus left at this rate if I don't do something. No sleep has left me feeling all dizzy and spacey so I think its lovefilm instant watching something unchallenging this afternoon.

DH is on a course for the next two weeks so I get the car! Driving does leave me walking like John Wayne but it means I can just pop out to mooch mothercare or meet a friend for lunch without contemplating walking and buses. Yeah!

Just started reading this wonderful book on child development/psychology - Keeping Your Child in Mind. It's really fascinating as it's not about parenting techniques but how to put yourself in your child's shoes and respond to their behaviour by understanding their psychological and neurological development...first chapter is on the 'difficult baby' so very relevant.... I'm a nerd aren't I?

[Stom91]

Sounds like a good book lady!

Sorry to hear about your grandad. Liz I lost mine a year ago last week. I hope he gets a little better soon.

If Daley is being induced I think she will have a November baby!!

I'm 32 weeks tomorrow. Really should sort put my hospital bag but alas no money til pay day next week :/

[NomDeClavier]

lady I suggest adding to your reading list 'the wonder weeks' - it's another child psychology/development book and I found it absolutely spot on.

I think there are a few November babies with changed EDDs or ELCSs. I'm more likely to have a January one!

:( sorry about your granddad liz.

Poor you feather it's worrying when they're usually so full on and then just want to lie there and do nothing.

I have the opposite - DS has a hideous rash but doesn't seem ill at all. Nursery reckon it's an allergy so have taken him (thank heaven!) but docs at 4. Now I really need to crack on and do some work!

[Stom91]

Just come back from
My birthday reflexology treatment. Was so nice and relaxing! Highly recommend. Was weird to start with because I hate people touching my feet lol but was so worth it.

My nan bought me 4 boxes of nappies, a box of wet wipes and a change /hospital bag today so once they arrive I can start putting my bag together yay :) can't believe we are all coming so close to our due dates. Doesn't seem that long ago we were moaning as we had so l

[Stom91]

Just come back from
My birthday reflexology treatment. Was so nice and relaxing! Highly recommend. Was weird to start with because I hate people touching my feet lol but was so worth it.

My nan bought me 4 boxes of nappies, a box of wet wipes and a change /hospital bag today so once they arrive I can start putting my bag together yay :) can't believe we are all coming so close to our due dates. Doesn't seem that long ago we were moaning as we had so long to go!!

[BohemianRaspberry]

woo it's Friday and many nappy returns Stom, sorry about your grandad liz. And daley you might be the first of us and lady I'm personally loving my car at the moment , glad you have it.

I managed to have lots of energy today, felt quite proud of that :D

Although have to share the embarassment of that I gave my HoD a lift back to his house and then proceed to drive the wrong way out of his town. 10 miles down winding hairpin country roads in the dark with Junior pressing ever harder on a filling bladder. Finally hit a village in the middle of nowhere and see a pub and think 'thank god', pull over and go into only to find male barman and five blokes drinking. Manage to stutter out that I need the loo and they say yeah no problem. Then as I walk out, all six begin to ask if I'm alright and do I need anything ... and I burst into tears at their kindness, apologising frantically, leg it out of the pub and drive! I feel terrible now!

[Chelsealady]

itsliz Really sorry about your grandad always hard in times like that. We are using my boyfriends grandads name Sidney as it is also my little brothers name but as im having a girl she will be s Sydney...not sure if i want it as the first name or second yet tho. X

[lisbapalea]

Hi all,

Hope everyone's relaxing this evening and on track for a decent night's sleep! I woke up at 5 and am knackered after a really full on day. DD has been really good but it's wiped me out getting from one errand to the other!

I am now slobbed in front of telly while a Bolognese sauce for tomorrow's lasagne (have got friends plus their 3 children coming for lunch) bubbling away on the hob!

I had my 32wk appt with my new midwife today and she has got me very nervous for my appointment with the consultant on 21 Nov. I have now decided I would like to go for an elcs (DD was also an elcs as she was breech) and the appointment is the follow up to my first appointment with him which was immediately booked for me because of my precious section. I have thought about it a lot and discussed with midwives etc and have decided the section is what I'd like to go for. But the midwife today told me that the consultant may well tell me there's no medical reason to have one. This is the first time it's been positioned this way and until now I have been under the impression that it's my decision to make (seeing as it's my body and baby and other technicalities like that!) and as long as the hcp's have given me all necessary info, for both sides, then they will support my decision.

But now I feel it's the consultant's decision and that pisses me off. I know in other areas (like where we used to live) a previous c-section pretty much automatically qualifies someone for an elcs, so I don't know why I am going to have to fight for it at my local hospital.

I struggled to stay calm and not cry when the midwife told me I need to "prepare myself" for the consultant to say this. Am sure I will cry at the next appointment so am taking dh with me I think.

Feeling pissed off and miserable about it, so have just eaten a Bounty. Baby seemed to like it - LOADS of kicking!

[Deya]

liz sorry to hear that your grandad is poorly. I love my grandparents very much as I spent a lot of time with them as a child. My grandad lives far away and I see him rarely, and every time I'm there he says this must be the last time I'll see him. Have to remind him that grandma used to say that for 10 years at least
lisbapaela you must feel very insecure at the moment as I guess all of us would like to have at least some sort of say or control over how births of our babies happen. I'm even scared I might not get the epidural I want and it worries me lots. I hope your consultant turns out to be understanding...

[MildredH]

Lisa you do have the right to ask for an ELCS- NICE say so and even more so in your case as a VBAC has risks which they can't make you accept.

Just be polite, calm but extremely firm. Make it clear you have spent time considering your options and this is your final decision.

[meandbumpy]

So sorry to hear about your Grandad Liz, thinking of you

Bohemian that's so funny, I'm sure you've given them an education!

Can anyone advise me on RFM please? I'm a bit confused about what to do as bumps kicks have definitely reduced other the past few days but not stopped altogether. Do they need to fully stop before you ring up about it or is a change in the usual routine enough to cause concern? I am nearly 34 weeks so could it just be that it's getting cramped in there and bump isn't able to kick as much? It is getting plenty of hiccups, about twice a day, but just isn't having it's mad kickabouts like it was.
I'm probably fretting unnecessarily but feel a bit confused about the whole thing and thought someone might be able to put my mind at rest.

[Alyssa1978]

liz sorry about your grandad.

stom that's really nice of your nan to buy those for you, at least you can get your hospital bag started now.
Glad you enjoyed your reflexology, I can't do it, I hate feet lol and if someone tried to touch mine I'd kick them
whisper lol I always laugh now when people say that to me as I know once you get to a certain point in pregnancy, there ain't no sleep until baby decides he/she will sleep through the night.

lisba sorry to hear that, hopefully if its a c section you want then you'll get it, c sections really scare me and I've never had one

bohemian don't feel terrible Hun, hormones are evil things, I feel like I'm always yelling at my kids at the minute and even though I know its all down to hormones and hopefully they'll be gone soon I still feel like a terrible mother.

mrs I was watching jelly baby have the hiccups earlier, must hav gone on for 10 minutes bless him.

Anyone else having pain in their legs? My left thigh at the front has had random shooting pains all day not helped by a 9 hour shift on my feet I was thinking maybe its due to bump being low down.

[Alyssa1978]

meand my midwife says that even when it's cramped you should get less kicks but the amount of movements you get should roughly stay the same, maybe give the labour ward a ring Hun and ask, even if its to put your mind at rest.

[PinkWitch803]

Lisba, you know what you want and have good reason. Talk to the consuktant when you have your appointment. He will be the one who matters.

I say this following another unhelpful mw appoint where all my questions were answered with "if you have any concerns, contact the assesment unit"! What is my mw for if not to ask questions. Is it really about taling my bp and trying to find the baby's heartbeat. Which took about a minute. The only reason I didn't panic was because seconds before the baby was doing backflips!

So I am phoning the assesment unit tomorrow to ask all my questions and not discussing anything else with my mw! I will talk about delivery with my consultant at my next appointment.

Don't get me wrong, the mw is lovely, but I really had to ask what was the point of that appointment!

[lisbapalea]

Thanks all. mildred I think you're right in making it clear that I have understood everything fully. I met with midwife who leads the vbacs a while back had a really honest chat with her when I hopefully demonstrated I was pretty well informed and clued up on this, and she totally seemed to appreciate my thoughts, so I just hope I can get the consultant (and my new community midwife) to treat me like an informed adult in the way she did!

I totally get that c-sections are major surgery and have lots of associated risks which are understandably scary to lots of people, but having had one last time (which was absolutely not part of my initial birth plan, which was very much midwife led, hypnobirthing etc), I have actually been left with a very positive experience of c-sections, so I am much more keen to go down the 'better the devil you know' route, as if I was to have a vbac, most of the "natural" options I originally wanted last time would be off limits.

The prospect of a medicalised vaginal birth, with constant monitoring, no access to pools etc, makes me very wary as this to me, knowing the way I sometimes respond to stressful situations (which a constantly monitored labour would be, in comparison to a straightforward natural labour), is more likely to end in an emcs. If I can avoid the emergency c-section by planning it up front, I think it makes a lot more sense.

[5ammy]

Sorry about your grandad liz

I lost mine earlier this year - was absolutely delvistated. He kept talking about a baby - when he wasn't really 'with it', I didn't find out until a week after he'd passed that I'd been pregnant the whole time.

Very emotional time, but it does get better.

X

[LadyMedea]

bumpy as Alyssa said movements do change as by 34 weeks it's pretty cramped in there with legs and arms tucked up so focus on frequency not scale... I'm 34+1 and I still get a lot of movement it's just more twiddly arms at the bottom and legs at the top and occasional vertical spins as it shifts from left to right. But it's very different than it was a couple of weeks ago. The advice is to look for ten movements in 2 hours, if you are getting less than that go in for monitoring.

[BohemianRaspberry]

Seconding lady I'm 34 weeks and I rarely get the full on swimming lessons but I do get the verticals, pushing hands and twitchy feet. I was told to look for frequency too x

[meandbumpy]

Thank you for the advice Lady and Alyssa, I think I'm probably over reacting about it, just really strange when it'd had such a set routine for so long. I'll do the counting and check for an hour and check. Perhaps I'm not noticing them now they're smaller....we'll see

[mumoftwoboysS]

Anyone else awake? Sorry haven't been able to read all posts today. Can't sleep due to restless leg, hunger, baby kicking and moving like mad and having had an argument with DH about our cat. He's lost more weight, we can't afford to have all the tests, biopsy etc to find out what's wrong. DH pointed this out and I know he's right but he looks at it so logically whilst I'm there a blubbing wreck crying as I don't want to put down my beloved cat and DH doesn't understand this! I feel distraught and can't cry properly as if hurts my bump! He apologised later but I just feel like he's so insensitive-grr! I know babies are more important than cats but I feel I've let my poor cat down.

Sorry to hear about your grandad too liz

lisb hope you get what you want- there's nothing worse (or more scary than the thought of someone else controlling how we have our babies, I can understand that. It's such an unknown as it is not knowing when and how, I can see why you want them to listen to you.

I'd better try get some sleep, so tired....

[mumoftwoboysS]

meandbumpy I'm getting less big movements too (32 wks tomorrow) much more twitches, hand movements, the odd knee in the stomach muscles. I think it is that baby is bigger so the movements change. Hope you're reassured soon, as long as you're feeling stuff I'm sure baby is fine, in there chilling

[DaleyBump]

Sorry, I've not read all the posts, I just wanted to say bumpy, if you're at all concerned, get checked. Don't wait until you can't feel anything. I'm saying this as someone who gets repeated rfm and I'm getting induced because of it. Please do get yourself checked.

[DaleyBump]

Also, hiccups don't count because they're involuntary movements. Like how you can wriggle your wrist but if you've got hiccups you can't stop it.

If that makes any sense.