The 30-something preggos have stopped drinking & smoking but are still foul-mouthed. Come and join us!

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A grads thread for the 30-something TTCers. All stages of gestation welcome. Come on in, pull up a birthing ball and have a Becks Blue.

Hey guys, to Fish fingers crossed for you this time round. My cs was not due to that, more to position and "failure to progress"- what a phrase!
Frog we are calling this one twitch at the moment and my first was squirm- just based on how their movements feel.
My 2 yr old had bath earlier and now there is an actual ring of chocolate around the bath!
Frog info on epidural- I am sooooo contradicted on it. Got through 12 hours to 5cm last time on tens and g&a and physio last time said to avoid if poss because of the spd. But have found some sites advocating epidural for spd. I don't want cause myself injury- hard to remember what positions not to get into in labour situation -and medded up. has anyone experienced a with and without?

yay for whale music and home birth! Glad your pesky placenta has sorted itself out.

frog my bump is called 'tiny' which I'm hoping isn't going to come back to bite me in a few weeks - at my 20 week scan they said his tum was measuring on the larger side of normal so got a growth scan at 28 weeks due.

I know this might sound a bit weird but does anyone else keep forgetting then remembering that an actual baby is going to come along at the end of all this?

Got up to go for a wee overnight and had to walk past the bedroom that will be the nursery and now has new carpet and a lick of paint and all of a sudden it dawned on me that there will be an actual child living in there soon!

Scared the shite out of me! This keeps happening! Every now and then I think feck! I worked out that I have 43 working days left at work excludingh leave and bank hols and that really doesn't sound like very much at all!

Then all of a sudden I can't think of anything more normal than being with my baby.

Weird!

re the epidurals thing, I'm much of the opinion that until I get there I won't know how much it's going to hurt and so while I have this lovely idea that a bit of tens and gas and air will get me through during my calm water birth at the midwife led unit if it all goes tits up and I scream for an epidural at 3cm, punching the midwife and have to be transfered to the labour ward (it's in the same hospital) then so be it? I've had so many friends who have made so many plans then ended up with a breech baby and a CS or forceps or whatever other delights are on offer.

My SIL went into early labour at 33 weeks and my other SIL had pre ec and had CS at 36 weeks.

I might be a bit naive but I'm just wondering how I plan for something when I don't know what's going to happen or how it's going to feel (apart from the fact it's going to hurt like fuck!)

wino, you do know that the definition of "birth plan" is "a document which you spend hours drafting, which is then screwed into a ball and hurled across the delivery room"?

well yes, I kinda figured that was how it would go! Plus a midwife has delivered upteen babies and I have delivered none so surely I just do what she tells me!?!

I don't want to have the continous monitoring if it's not neccessary but aside from that I have no idea what I'm doing!

Nah, my MW last time sat there reading it and making notes. Or doing Sudoku, possibly: I was off my tits on gas & air at the time. She could have been shagging a porter in the corner of the room and I wouldn't have noticed, really.

My baby has gone sideways last night - I look like I have and 800g bloomer up my top and my trousers keep falling down. Bloody child had head engaged at 32 week scan! Noooooooooooo! No to the transverse lie!

Wino, I am in massive denial and keep saying things like, "But I've got far too much to do to have a baby" and hauling furniture around etc. I am going to go into shock when my waters go, as I am not at all convinced that I am actually pg, despite having trouble typing because of massive huge sideways bump.

Coops, the home birth is so that I get a pool. The local purpose built maternity wing only has one pool. They had 2 when DS was born but one was removed to make way for storing paperwork. Sob. Plus, my neighbours piss me off and are really noisy, so am looking forward to all the mooing and screaming obscenities. Good luck with your scan - bet your placenta has moved by then.

Hello everyone :) You all seem like a great bunch, and this seems JUST the kind of bolt hole I need. When I am dealing with mother from hell one moment, puking my guts up the next, and trying to disengage DS and DD from the PS3 without causing permanent physical damage the next, it sometimes feels like I need more than virtual hugs....

I'm due around 10 November I think - scan on Monday though which should give me more of an idea. I MISS wine. But randomly, I also sort of don't. At least, the thought of it pretty much makes me vomit, but I really miss chilling of an evening after work, and kids are in bed....with a nice cold glass or seven of chablis. Or chenin. Instead, my evenings seem to be about falling asleep after gazing into the glistening depths of the toilet whilst my stomach relieves itself of the day's burdens.

I was in total denial about DS - I even turned up at work in labour cos he very unhelpfully decided to arrive BEFORE his EDD. Grrrrrr. (My boss did send me home though ) First babies are meant to be late. Ah well.....

Bring on November when I can have brie again......

welcome gsyautumn - enough virtual hugs, crisps, cakes and Becks Blue for everyone. I am with you on missing the thought of wine as much as wine itself. Personally, I am glad not to be drinking as I know I was drinking enough for three people I just wish I could feel like I wasn't permanently hungover!

impatientwino when my GP asked me at 5 weeks whether I had considered birthing options I just about fell over. I laughed then said that I was just going to wait to see if the pregnancy stuck. He found this very amusing . . .Knowing nothing about childbirth and babies (other than the increasing likelihood that this will happen to me at some point in the nearish future I simply don't feel able to consider my options. I suppose I will need to get my mind to it.

frog I have a sausage in my uterus. Figure when DH and I are discussing it in public, saying sausage makes my trousers tight seems to work.

Morning ladies,
hope you are all feeling well. Good luck to anyone having a flutter on the national later.
Glad to get to the weekend!
7 weeks work left to go.
Hi Autumn
twitch is lying transverse at the mo but it's early days right?

We are going out tonight......I am driving......he is drinking.....I am pouting

That is all!

frog I hope you have a list of ways to make him repay the favour.

I have just put on my first non-wired bra since I was 12.
I must say I might be a convert. It is no thing of beauty but my goodness it is comfy.

Went out for an afternoon curry and about 12 pints of appletise yesterday as I felt bad DH has been trapped in with my whinging self so much recently. Paying for my excesses today though - feel hellish and have a massive cold sore. That's what I get for doing more than sitting on my fat arse!

DH is now suspicious he is about to get sent for the weekly shop alone . . . Again.

Yo yo mo fo's

Change of plan, I couldnt be arsed to go!! The closer it got I just thought I look fat in everything (shoves another cookie in gob) and I am way to foul mouthed for chit chat with to be honest people I dont give a flyiing foof about!

I could imagine someone saying "Oooo you got twins in there" and me telling them to shut the F up and leave me alone, all whilst I demolish one bag of crisps after the other!

Therefore I decided I would drop him off and collect him.......which I did and he was very drunk! I had to make him stay up, eat something, drink juice and well just not puke! To be fair he never goes out. But he did tell me that I was mean for not letting him have the girls name of Una on our list of names......I told him that as he was drunk and it was 2am I did not think this was the best time to discuss it! Una.....never!!!

Anyway, now I am trying to do some work and Gary has decided to play the game of look how tall I can make myself, along with guess where my knee is.....it was funny at first but that was 3 hours ago.

And Breeeeeeath!

crisps I am sure you will feel better soon, you are nearly in that nice middle bit :) and I am sure he secretly likes the lone shopping expeditions....you never know he may mind read you again and bring home something lovely!

Happy hormones everyone! Pass me the percy pigs.....

Percy pigs sounds awesome!

I have been turning down social engagements with gay abandon. Being a secret misanthrope, I am quite enjoying have an excuse.

OH spent many a happy hour scouring every supermarket our town has and came back with many pregnancy-friendly food items (including pot noodles and a copy of Red). I spent the afternoon watching OBEM online - why??

friedfrog, drunk people are really boring bastards when you're not one of them, anyway. They talk repetitive shite, smell funny and have wild mood swings, a bit like toddlers but without the cutesy charm and distractibility. Give me a good bar of chocolate any day until they cut the cord and them I'm away off down that pub .

crisps, OBEM is a load. You know that babies just drop out at a sneeze, when you want them to, without making a mess, don't you?

Baby jars is now head down again and ready to go in 6 weeks! Shit! I now get to see my lovely MW every fortnight from now on, and the health visitor is coming next Monday to check for dust on the mantelpiece and torture equipment, or so I assume. The MW came today and asked to see where the baby will be sleeping, but I had to stall her for a minute to shove DH's old pants into the wash basket and hide the old hobnob packets .

Maisie, you've got ages for bump to do a bit of shuffling round, no? I'm guessing you're at about 29 weeks or so at the mo, but slap me with a kipper if I'm way out.

crips, hang on in there, dude. Not long until magic trimester 2, home of not vomiting and falling asleep in public.

ah, booze . . .we got married literally 3 days before conception of sausage. For wedding gifts we asked for wine. People were generous - we have more bottles of wine than you can shake a bread stick at. Thus, I am currently viewing drunkenness with the same pious sobriety as a Wee Free on January 1st. However, come November, the breast pump and I are going to become firm friends.

OBEM stirred emotions in me I had no idea I had and fears which are practically primordial as I had no idea I had any feelings either way . . . forceps holy fuck

However, watching a girl look down at herself with a look of indignation exclaiming "I'm shitting. I can't stop it now" did make me laugh. I will undoubtedly pay for that.

History appointment tomorrow morning. Not sure if I should be but I am quite excited!

Hi all,
jars no kipper needed, 29 weeks as of tomorrow.
Twitch did a full on 180 flip yesterday that made me catch my breath.
None of you can complain in the weight stakes as I go past the 2 stone mark now and roll off into the distance!
Been stuck at hosp until 6pm today, nothing major, bloods etc, yawn, yawn

Oh dear, I'm already at the "I'd like to fast forward the next 8-10 weeks" stage - I'll be 30 weeks next Sunday. I've put on 2 stone 2 lbs (so yah boo sucks to you, maizie) - slightly alarmingly, at least 6 lbs of it in the last 3 weeks - I've got dreadful heartburn and indigestion, the sensation that a large baby arse/head is wedged under my ribs, I could sleep for Britain and the FUCKING RESTLESS LEGS ARE BACK. Oh yes, and I have backache because my pelvis has got twisted around (nothing new, this - at least I know which exercises to do to twist it back again!) Plus DS is being a grouchy, non-sleeping little fucker challenging toddler. And we have damp under the bathroom lino.

And breathe.....

I think it's a baby head under my ribs. Can definitely feel something hard and round, and she's using my bladder as a kind of trampoline with which to launch herself up and test the robustness of my diaphragm. I think my kidneys are somewhere up near my ears and heaven alone knows where my spleen and pancreas have got to.

jars, I'm kinda surprised that your MW wanted to see where the baby was going to sleep. God job mine didn't - I'd have pointed vaguely to the side of our bed, where a moses basket/cot most definitely wasn't (at that stage anyway). We did get a visit from my GP because, in his words "some children are born into a house you wouldn't let a dog live in", but other than that nobody seemed to care overmuch.

crisps, we are awash with plonk as well. I got suckered into one of those 3-monthly wine deliveries, which I keep forgetting to cancel. We have 4 cases unopened!

afternoon all

fish that all sounds, well simply shit.... Calpol for DS or for you? or both?

jars 6 weeks?! Crap where did that come from?! Maybe your MW is just nosey and likes having a poke round peoples houses?! That's really weird, they wouldn't have checked if you were having hospital birth? Am im

talking of babies coming out with nothing more than a sneeze I appear to have had my baby without noticing a single thing! - went to GP to get MatB1 form for work and noticed this morning when I handed it in at work that he filled it out saying that on 13/04/12 he attended a delivery where I had a child! Idiot! Now I have to go back and get another one and payroll are already screaming at me for it!

I seem to be developing a rather nasty chocolate habit, seems to be a daily occurance at the moment. My lovely boss brought me back giant chocolate buttons when she went out earlier so that's today down the pan.

I am torn about the fact that Malteasters are now off the shelves until next year, they're just so yummy and I like biting off their ears

In the weight race I have gained a stone at 25 weeks so will just have to see what happens in the next 15 I was bigger than you buggers to begin with though so theorectically I shouldn't gain as much as you.

Question - when do you start getting big kicks/punches/squirms? I still only get a little thump every few hours quite low down - not that I am looking forward to having the shit kicked out me but just wondering how much longer before I need to start monitoring them/worry that I have a weedling in there?

ah, fish the old mail order wine! us too. Naked wines are now emailing me asking if everything is alright. I wouldn't be surprised if they sent the police out to the house to check for bluebottles and piles of mail behind the door.

I am a proper pregnant woman now because I now have my Bounty pack! however, I want a new one because this is just full of leaflets and shit - where is my chocolate? What a swizz.

MW at history appointment this morning took 4 shots to get blood and couldn't. Was went to triage for them to try. I got there imagining bumps and grazes on the heads of children or errant sports persons but this was a maternity triage. Along with me and my 10 week bloat there was a woman at 20 weeks, one at 38 weeks, one with an actual baby and two giving birth. One at the excitable, puking and screaming stage and the other in the sitting in the waiting room panting stage. Felt a complete imposter.

However, this now means that I should get my scan appointment soon. WANT IT NOW!

All this took such a long time that I failed to get to work today. Might take some explaining seeing as I haven't told anyone from work.

Am having a crap day, pain wise. I have ongoing low-down periody cramps, despite going swimming with DS this afternoon. They aren't getting worse but they aren't getting any better, either. I'm supposed to be cooking dinner soon but I don't want to move from the sofa. And I'm really knackered and tearful. I need a lie down but I'm in on my own.

Sorry for me post, but am a bit scared and really low.

:( jars is it worth a call to your MW?

takeaways were invented for pregnant women (so I heard anyway) and surely the telly has something to entertain DS so you can get your head down.

I really hope you feel better soon.

DH coming home v soon, going to have a bath & see if it stops. It's not any worse than period pain & last time I had weeks of false labour, do I'm pretty sure not real but still v uncomfortable and a bit worrying. Not allowed to gave baby yet: not finished making it a blanket.

Plus last time real contractions hurt like fuck & these don't really.

Glad you are ok, Make sure DH makes you a