Jue in June 2011....... third trimesters here we come!!!!!

[Clarkiee]

Hello,
Started a new thread ladies, fingers crossed it works xx

Just re read my message didn't mean that putting your feet up relieves 'dead hand'!

Evening - nomoreheels I am with you today on the wishing I wasn't pregnant. It was a good friend's 40th party today and she hired out part of a bar/restaurant on the docks, and we all met and had swanky Kir Royals and leisurely tapas... except me and dp of course, who were chasing after ds for the whole 4 hours we were there, whilst he tried to run in the open-plan kitchen or throw himself off of the decking into the water constantly. At least dp could have a beer . I didn't get a chance to catch up with anyone at all, and I bet they're all out now still having a fabulous and drunken time . I am watching telly with a pint of squash and some toast, with swollen ankles and sausage fingers....

On a positive note, I had the first decent night's sleep in a long time last night... ds slept through for 10 hours (he's had a cough for ages) and dp stayed over at a friend's house for a get-together with some old friends, so I had the whole bed, and all the pillows all to myself. Only woke up for one wee and got to thrash around as much as I wanted to... bliss!

I hope you had a fabulous time today mummynumber2, can't wait to hear about it!

Evening All.

nomoreheels I'm sorry you are feeling so rubbish. I find I feel a bit like that when I don't have anything to focus on. It must be hard being off work and not having anything to focus on except how you feel and what is coming. I must admit tough I'm beginning to find work a bit of a struggle and I still have another 8 weeks to go (one of those is holiday though) I'm not sure I'm going to make it to be honest!

Confessions I know how you feel! I've been struggling with my sleep too, it's just so hard to get comfortable.

Super I think i'm getting organised because we were so panicked about finding out we were having a baby with only 3 months to go. I do feel hideously under prepared for the birth though. I keep forgetting to do my exercises and I have no idea how I feel about all the pain meds or even where I want to have the baby yet! Oh well I suppose it's coming out one way or another!

Sorry to hear about all the swollen feet and dead hands going about at the moment. Sounds like a good excuse to put your feet up and have a .

I had a lovely day shopping with my friend, I got some clothes for the baby so we have something ready for when it comes. I'm a bit paranoid the baby is going to come early. The MW swears my dates are wrong and it will come early. They had some really cute things in Boots in the sale :o

Joanneizpan - I have a feeling I am going to be early too!!

Sassamax - well I am fellow toddler bring weirdo (although ds stopped last year when he was 2.7) and I love it, so yes!! Very relaxed style.

Evening all! I have been so tired that I have been unable to bother staring at the computer screen.

kara and sasa I'll join you in the bf-ing a toddler corner. DS gave up at 12m though because there was not enough milk for him - tbh he eats mansized portions of dinner and I was in 2nd trimester and previously my milk has gone to practically nothing at about 20 weeks pg. With the DDs, DD1 pushed through the 2nd trimester because she liked the cuddle and I tandem fed for 6 months when her sister turned up.

I have decided this baby has to come on the evening of 12th June because that is the only time I can fit it in :) Due date is 7th, but SIL gets married on 11th and the following weekend DD2 is in her first drama show. Don't want the baby during the week because I need everyone at home and I laboured very fast with DS.

citizen you asked about nappies? I'd get 3 small motherease airflow wraps and 10-15 of any kind of nappy you like (maybe a few of some different kinds to see what you like best), liners for the nappies (paper or fleece) and a big bucket with a lid. I think the wraps are about £8 each and a nice shaped nappy a similar price, but you can pick up second hand nappies on ebay.

goodvibrations I am beginning to feel your pain :( I went to the physio on Tuesday and have been kitted out with another tubigrip and a proper belt. I think I can manage the PGP until I need to do anything at speed e.g. rescue DS from the top of the bureau - how did he get up there? or need a wee. I can see all that velcro and some of my jumpers falling out badly soon. At least DH is being very kind.

I have turned a pregnancy corner because DH did his first late night run to tesco's for me. I needed more food. To my shame I know that if I get in the bath and weep about being big and fat he gets me a giant bar of fruit and nut. Tonight it was English muffins and he toasted them for me and everything.

I have been asked what I would like for mothers' day and I have chosen a 3 hour afternoon nap. I hope DH doesn't decide to do any complicated and noisy DIY.

jasmine they dole out meptid at the JR rather than pethidine, I think. Anyway, to up your pain threshold, hold ice cubes until you think you can't anymore and then hold on for another 10 seconds. Consider what your pain coping strategies are while you're doing this.

Sorry for all of you who are having birthing worries and are being plagued by memories of previous bad experiences. My first birth experience was HORRID, but the other 2 have been progressively more amazing, to the extent that I am actually looking forward to giving birth this time. If you aren't throwing things at me by now, I send you lots of positive vibes. Women are so strong, it's incredible!

Anyone else getting clumsy? - o yes, barbie mentioned the top on back to front thing. I had to leave a note out this morning saying, 'half of potato peeler flew out of my hand. Please rescue from behind butchers' block' Once I'd dropped several other things trying to empty the dishwasher I stopped before anything got broken.

Well, that's my weekly missive. Happy mothers' day for tomorrow everyone :)

Yay for toddler feeding wierdos (I've stopped too though - think it was November-ish)
OK I've ordered one for my friend - think I may have to order one for myself too!

Thanks so much for the nappy advice mother - sounds sensible and manageable.

Went to the cinema today to see Oranges & Sunshine - about kids in care being sent to Australian children's homes. Don't know if it was the hormones/ general pregnancy but I wept all the way through. anyone else seen it?

Best wishes to all of you

This is probably a really stupid question but does anyone else's baby's sometimes do really fast fluttery type movements? Is it normal?! How would you know if the baby is in distress?

I don't think it's a stupid question but as far as I know fluttery movements are pretty normal. I'm sure someone with significantly more experience will be along soon to add their wisdom! Until Thursday I'd been worrying my baby wasn't moving much at all. Mentioned it at my 28 week appointment and the midwife sent me for a scan. All is fine but even when i could see him moving on the screen, I couldn't feel anything. The sonographer said it was because there's a lot of cushioning: amniotic fluid, placenta and my fat cells (the cheek!!).

Anyway, since then baby's been moving loads. It's so difficult not to worry but I think that fluttery movements are fine, just have to look out for reduced movement. But as I say, I'm no expert - paranoid first-timer here!

8rubber If it makes you feel any better about your evening out, I stayed in bed last night and watched a programme about how filing cabinets are made....rock and roll!

Mother thanks for the ice cube trick, I dont have any but am hoping a frozen tomato might suffice!

Nurse I've noticed that too, kind of like a whole bump shudder. It actually happened last night and I wondered if junior was shivering! I have also noticed that when I lay on my left side (like a good girl) I get tickled all the way up and down that left side, presumably hands and feet moving at the same time.

Woke up with dead hand again. Its fine now but all day it will feel slighty numb. The MW suggested it might be a touch of carpel tunnel or possibly something related to the lawnmower (as in from the vibrations). I'm very clumsy at the moment too so at least with a dead hand I have some kind of excuse!

Have a good mummies day xx

One of my babies feet and legs are just under my breast bone and I keep getting massive lumpy limb movements. Little kicks and flutters are nice but full on body parts moving feels really wierd (and not very nice).

My aquanatal is off cause hotel is full of pamper days and there is no room in the pool- boo, actually enjoy it (think its because its lovely mild excercise and a chance to catch up with fellow mtb's).

Happy Mothers Day to those with DC's and if your a first time mum to be like me- just think Mothers Day next year is going to have a whole new meaning .

Another rubbish day I'm afraid!

My neighbour (single mum to 2 teen lads) let them have yet another party last night. There is a history of all kinds of noise over the past 6 months. Last night we had loud music, kids screeching out the back smoking. They had a similar (worse!) party last weekend so I am at the end of my tether. I tried to sleep in another room but was woken up again at 3 am by kids leaving the party & playing football outside ours!

Because I was so irritated I only managed about 4 hours sleep in total & am livid this morning. To make things worse DP & I are regularly arguing about it because he's being all stuff upper lip about it & doesn't want to complain. He thinks there's nothing to be done & I should just get on with things, but I can't. I cannot handle a spring & summer of parties & noise - I need my sleep & feel I should have the right to rest in reasonable quiet. So I think they need speaking to. I feel like he doesn't understand how much this is affecting me & I don't have his support in complaining.

Anyhow, am going to try & catch the mum asap to have a serious talk. She doesn't know I'm P (not that it should matter). If she doesn't try to meet me halfway on this I'll go to Env Health!

You're absolutely right nomore, it's not on.

Thanks for the reassurance citizen and Jasmine :)

nomore just think you can get your own back when your baby is screaming in the middle of the night soon! /evil laugh/ Seriously though the mum might not know how much noise they are making. You could point our to hubbs that if you are stressed the baby is stressed and that can't be good!

Husband and a friend are putting the carpet back down upstairs at the moment...they are even hoovering it! I think i'm going to have to take today easy, I walked a bit far yesterday and i have an achy under bump today. Oh well at least I have been sleeping. I'm excited to see the baby's room with carpets and blinds and curtains. No cot yet though...thats coming on the brother express in May sometime. Handy having a brother who likes next to Ikea!

I'm going to bake a cake now I think...tea loaf - yumm anyone want a virtual slice?

Have a good day all - we have sunshine so hopefully you do too xx

Well I've discovered that even the bath is to uncomfortable now. Damn not being a short arse who fits into a standard tub. I was hoping it'd ease my back after staying in bed far to late this morning, but if anything it's made my back worse. Out with the gym ball I guess.

To make things worse I'm also now waking up in the early hours covered in sweat from the pillow between my legs. I'm trying very hard not to think about the fact that I still have another 11(ish) weeks of this!

At lest this year DHDS remembered what day it is

NMH no idea how you've managed that 2 weekends in a row! If they were our neighbours we would have made a noise complaint the first night (easily pissed off here)!

Joanne I've just eaten luch, so not feeling like cake, just yet. Ask me again later

NMH - am for you, pg or not you should not have to put up with that amount of crap!! Definitely have to have words with the neighbours!

MOSPs - at the 12th being the only possible date for you! Better cross your legs until then

BTW my hubby also thinks chocolate is a good way to cheer me up when I am feeling unhappy at being so fat!!

Just about managing in the bath but won't be long before I will only be able to have them when DH is home so he can help me out!

nmh I really feel for you. When I was 5 my mum bought a flat for me, her and my brother to live in, just as a temporary measure. Old people lived in all the other flats. Then it was discovered that the building was falling down and the freeholder had buggered off, and in the time it took to sort it all out (years), most of the elderly residents died and the flats were rented out. Let's just say they were rented out to people with some bad social problems - above us (we were semi-basement), taking over the ground floor, were a succession of drug-dealers, neglectful parents (one mother used to lock her toddlers up alone all night and go out clubbing), and people with violent histories. The one thing they all had in common was a penchant for playing house music/dance music all through the night as loudly as possible. We couldn't move from there until I was 16 and I actually believed I was an insomniac before we left - I used to be reduced to tears when I had exams the next day. If you asked them to be quiet they would turn it up.

Anyway, all I will say is maybe take the middle ground between your position and your DHs and start off softly softly. My mum's reaction was often angry and the environmental health were always getting involved, and it ramped up hostility more than anything and often made things worse (once two men tried to force their way into our flat in a massive rage because she'd called the police). Hopefully your neighbours are more reasonable than ours were (!) and if you can have a friendly chat with the mum perhaps things will sort themselves out without things getting antagonistic - there's nothing worse than a) noise and b) knowing they're doing it on purpose to piss you off because they know you need your sleep.

So anyway, I totally agree with you that you should NOT have to put up with this and that doing nothing is not an option, but also think your DH has a point that you might want to tread carefully, at least at first ...

Just my twopennyworth!

nomore oh you poor love, I cant think of anything worse than neighbour noise, my heart really goes out to you.

clarkiee breastbone? what they doing up there? Do you mean ribs or is it a weird twin thing? Mine has his feet under my ribs on the right hand side and its now a regular family game to rub where his feet are and get him to punch me low down on the left. We were doing it at lunch today and the restaurant staff were laughing at us - gave me some chocs because all 'mothers' got free chocs today...oh gawd, I'm welling up!

Mother if 12th is your date then we'll be due date buddies. My induction is on 12th..and of course I will be delivering within a couple of hours of labour kicking off...wont I?

joanne can you save me some virtual cake? I'm a bit full of lunch but some around supper time would be nice x

Still got a dead hand by the way - not dead exactly but numbish and tingly. I'm considering taking my wedding ring off shortly just in case it suddenly blows up, but I dont want to.

Oh and I learned today not to ask a 5 year old what she would like me to call the baby......'Rover'

jasmine at Rover. If our 3 year old has his way, Currant Bun will be called Yellow.

DS favours "Octonaut"

Ha ha, Rover, Yellow and Octonaut (Jamie Oliver will be getting some good ideas).

One is kicking me about 5 cm below my cleavage jasmine (so suppose that is at the top of my ribs). Think they must be a bit squashed in there with there being two. They are lying side by side length ways both heads down but with the bigger one a bit lower down.

I know that twins are 50/50 c-section/natural birth. Wish I knew which it would be (don't find out until the day you are booked into be induced- presuming they don't come before that), althought they both seem to have their pros and cons. Glad I'm quite a laid back person because it seems pretty pointless making a birthing plan.

Two weeks left at work feels like ages!!!!!!!!! (sorry those people who still have 8 weeks to go).

How can it take DH half a day to put up a blind? And how can that drill be that loud? still at least the cakes are baked. I hate feeling so useless. I wish I could help more him.

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